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1) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606366)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor

Es99...

There is evil within you.

I do feel sorry for you.

Good luck.

..and I think you are a very nasty judgemental person who makes sweeping offensive generalisations at every opportunity with no idea why people would find you rude. If you behave to your in laws the way you behave here then I have absolutely no doubt that they would tell you whatever you wanted to hear in order to keep the peace.

I sincerely hope you are not representative of all police officers.
2) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606364)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
James...

The following would usually be posted in the PM's, but I believe it is important in this discussion.

My son-in-law, and I, believed in waiting for more information, before coming to a conclusion in the Ferguson Incident.

Now we both believe the Officer did nothing to stand trial for.

More important...

With the inter-racial marriage, which both sets of parents wished for. Came Racism from SOME, on BOTH sides.

Yes... Their IS Racial Bigotry within the Black Community, as in the White. Why is it so difficult for White Liberal's to acknowledge this.

This has NOTHING to do with Institutional Racism. But Bigotry directed against Individuals of BOTH Races. Black Racial Bigots are just as vile and evil, as White Racial Bigots.

Well as a parent, I didnt care who she married. But to our parents that was a differant matter. It was dealt with by getting to know each other. And respecting each other as HUMANS.

Same with my wife's parents. But now, after getting to know each other, they agree with me.

Or at least that is what they say to your face.

So I should be an ass and not take them for their word?

Or they could just be being nice and trying to keep the peace?

Who knows. Most people try to avoid sensitive topics with in laws.

I have no doubt that most people agree that the rioting in Ferguson is a disaster. I've been through a couple of race riots and it was very sad, but I also totally understood why the people around me were so angry.
3) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606357)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
James...

The following would usually be posted in the PM's, but I believe it is important in this discussion.

My son-in-law, and I, believed in waiting for more information, before coming to a conclusion in the Ferguson Incident.

Now we both believe the Officer did nothing to stand trial for.

More important...

With the inter-racial marriage, which both sets of parents wished for. Came Racism from SOME, on BOTH sides.

Yes... Their IS Racial Bigotry within the Black Community, as in the White. Why is it so difficult for White Liberal's to acknowledge this.

This has NOTHING to do with Institutional Racism. But Bigotry directed against Individuals of BOTH Races. Black Racial Bigots are just as vile and evil, as White Racial Bigots.

Well as a parent, I didnt care who she married. But to our parents that was a differant matter. It was dealt with by getting to know each other. And respecting each other as HUMANS.

Same with my wife's parents. But now, after getting to know each other, they agree with me.

Or at least that is what they say to your face.
4) Message boards : Politics : Religion - is one better than another? (Message 1606356)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Oh I thought that someone said something, I must of been hallucinating.

Now what was I doing?

Cheers.

Just someone making sweeping generalisations about people again and thinking he's not incredibly offensive. Don't worry about it.
5) Message boards : Politics : Religion - is one better than another? (Message 1606354)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
A non Muslim sticks a piece of bacon on a Muslim's door = 2 years imprisonment.

Muslim burns poppies = £60 fine.

Ain't religion grand!

Are poppies a religious symbol?
6) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606353)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
You are wasting your time with Clyde. He has absolutely no understanding of institutionalised racism. He doesn't even understand his own racism.

I think somewhere I read that he has black grandchildren. I really don't think it will come home to him until his black grandchildren are older and they start to tell grandpa Clyde what it is like to deal with cops and a system that is stacked against you when you are black.

Es99...

You are quite disgusting in your personal attacks against others and their family's. But we all know that.

How many Black persons have given their lives for you? How many Black persons would you have, if necessary, given YOUR life? How many Black person's have their name inscribed upon a wall in Washington, and you cry whenever you visits.

How many Black persons have you Partnered with in PD over years? It is in some ways closer than a marriage.

How many Black persons are married to one of daughters', and is the best of your Son-In-Law's? How many Black children call you Grandpa, and you love to death?

YOU speak for THEM? NO YOU DO NOT!!!

Repeating... I find your posts disgusting. And any reply will be the same.

Have a good day.

I too Find ES's post insulting. I have a daughter married to a black man and have 3 by the PC crowd, Bi racial grandchildren. I have also served with black men who I trusted my life with as they trusted theirs to me.
My son in law thinks the crap going on in Ferguson is total BS. Burning dowm your own neighborhood stores does what? It shows a total lack of respect for law. You profess to hate lynch mobs. Well what do you think all that rioting was about? Lets not let due proscess happen, lets burn up stores and cars and loot like its 1999.
Yes, There is latent racism in the US. Was the grandjury browbeat? I have no Idea. Neither do you. Unless one of them states publically that it happend.
You can bet your ass the feds will look at the same forensics and facts. IF they come to a different conclusion and decide to go for charges, Then its a whole different ballgame. Then you get your wish for a trial.
OH, And my son in law thinks the cop was justified. And he grew up in Shrevesport, LA so he knows just a little of what racism is.

I am pretty sure that no one here supports rioting, I certainly never have actually said I do.

I do however take real issue with the people who stand on their high horse and get all self righteous about it without at least giving the tiniest nod of understanding to why people might be so angry and frustrated that they feel this is the only recourse they have.

No one has said that the jury was brow beaten. What has been said by lots of different people was that the prosecutor did not for some reason do his job properly and treated this whole process as if he were a defence lawyer at trial.

Let's have a trial. That would be justice.

Let us not ignore the very real problems that the people of Ferguson have with the police department there. Let us not pretend that in America white people and black people are treated the same. They are not. If they were all those tea party gun nuts would have been shot by the police by now.
7) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606349)
Posted 18 hours ago by Profile Es99Project donor
You are wasting your time with Clyde. He has absolutely no understanding of institutionalised racism. He doesn't even understand his own racism.

I think somewhere I read that he has black grandchildren. I really don't think it will come home to him until his black grandchildren are older and they start to tell grandpa Clyde what it is like to deal with cops and a system that is stacked against you when you are black.

Es99...

You are quite disgusting in your personal attacks against others and their family's. But we all know that.

How many Black persons have given their lives for you? How many Black persons would you have, if necessary, given YOUR life? How many Black person's have their name inscribed upon a wall in Washington, and you cry whenever you visits.

How many Black persons have you Partnered with in PD over years? It is in some ways closer than a marriage.

How many Black persons are married to one of daughters', and is the best of your Son-In-Law's? How many Black children call you Grandpa, and you love to death?

YOU speak for THEM? NO YOU DO NOT!!!

Repeating... I find your posts disgusting. And any reply will be the same.

Have a good day.

Considering how many of your posts I find disgusting I'm not really bothered what you think of mine.

I am just politer about how disgusted I am.
8) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1606215)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Es99Project donor
And how convenient that you dont belive a Grand Jury. Their sole purpose is to see IF there is enough eveidance to go to trial.
Before you condenm all of us for racism, Lets see how the whole jury voted.
You can be sure that if any brow beating or any other such nonsense went on during deliberations, It will come out.

And your blanket statement that it was rigged is just as racist.

Why should you believe this grand jury? 3 black people and 9 white people in a town that is predominantly black? And with the dead victim being black and the shooter being white, in the American south? Yeah that jury sounds fair. Even better is that in order to go for trial, 9 out of 12 jurors should have voted for going to trial. Thats 75%. Basically, a tiny minority of exactly 4 people could vote for not going to trial and thats what would have happened. I dunno, it seems a little idiotic that in democratized justice the minority gets to impose its will on the majority.

So yeah, tell me why any of us should trust this sham of a grand jury proceeding?

You are wasting your time with Clyde. He has absolutely no understanding of institutionalised racism. He doesn't even understand his own racism.

I think somewhere I read that he has black grandchildren. I really don't think it will come home to him until his black grandchildren are older and they start to tell grandpa Clyde what it is like to deal with cops and a system that is stacked against you when you are black.
9) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605751)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well, I guess whatever magic the prosecutor spun to prevent an actual trial worked.

Good to see institutionalised racism is still going strong in America.

You can all pat yourselves on the back at how wonderful the show trial was and how it proves that Michael Brown wasn't killed because he was black.

We'll never really know what would have happened if there had been an actual trial.

All the evidence has been posted online. Look at it yourself and ask if it was really presented in a fair and unbiased way. I am not so sure.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2014/nov/25/darren-wilson-not-indicted-ferguson?

That is not all the evidence, just most. As it has a witness 63, but not 63 witness statements, that much is obvious.

Did you check the other pages? There are 4 pages, but I haven't counted how many witnesses there are.

I did. Many missing witness statements based on the numbering.

I wonder what was in them.

If they give contradictory accounts to ones that support Darren Wilson then that would be enough grounds to indict.

If they support Darren Wilson then on what grounds were they left out?
10) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605598)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Lisa Bloom: Prosecutor ‘rigged the system’
11) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605590)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2014/nov/25/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-annotated
"Ferguson grand jury decision: between the lines of the St Louis County prosecutor's announcement

St Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch announced on Monday that Darren Wilson would not be charged for the fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown. In a remarkable 20-minute tirade, McCulloch lashed out at protesters, as well as the ‘insatiable’ media appetite for information. Here’s the story behind what he said"
12) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605585)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well, I guess whatever magic the prosecutor spun to prevent an actual trial worked.

Good to see institutionalised racism is still going strong in America.

You can all pat yourselves on the back at how wonderful the show trial was and how it proves that Michael Brown wasn't killed because he was black.

We'll never really know what would have happened if there had been an actual trial.

All the evidence has been posted online. Look at it yourself and ask if it was really presented in a fair and unbiased way. I am not so sure.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2014/nov/25/darren-wilson-not-indicted-ferguson?

That is not all the evidence, just most. As it has a witness 63, but not 63 witness statements, that much is obvious.

Did you check the other pages? There are 4 pages, but I haven't counted how many witnesses there are.
13) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605569)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well, I guess whatever magic the prosecutor spun to prevent an actual trial worked.

Good to see institutionalised racism is still going strong in America.

You can all pat yourselves on the back at how wonderful the show trial was and how it proves that Michael Brown wasn't killed because he was black.

We'll never really know what would have happened if there had been an actual trial.

All the evidence has been posted online. Look at it yourself and ask if it was really presented in a fair and unbiased way. I am not so sure.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2014/nov/25/darren-wilson-not-indicted-ferguson?

Awaiting the Prosecution, for Perjury, of those, who Under Oath, lied During the Grand Jury Proceeding, regarding Brown being shot in the back, had hands up, shot while on ground, etc.

They are been proven vile and disgusting liars.

Nothing has been proven, Clyde, because there was no trial.

Which seems rather convenient to me.

I'm reading through the documents at the moment. The first thing that strikes me is why a medical examiner of 50 years would have such a distrust of the police.

Interesting.
14) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. (Message 1605544)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
Well, I guess whatever magic the prosecutor spun to prevent an actual trial worked.

Good to see institutionalised racism is still going strong in America.

You can all pat yourselves on the back at how wonderful the show trial was and how it proves that Michael Brown wasn't killed because he was black.

We'll never really know what would have happened if there had been an actual trial.

All the evidence has been posted online. Look at it yourself and ask if it was really presented in a fair and unbiased way. I am not so sure.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2014/nov/25/darren-wilson-not-indicted-ferguson?
15) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1604929)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
When you dehumanise someone you open the door for evil acts. It doesn't matter who that person is.

A sociopath can commit evil because they really don't see other people as human.

A prison system can commit evil because it doesn't see the people in its care as human.

Religious extremists can commit evil because they don't see those outside their faith as human.

The Pope understands that people in prison are still human beings, Clyde thinks they are not. I know which one is on the side of evil in this.

Pope Francis washes feet of male, female prison inmates

Es99...

You forgot to add Ideologues, commit evil because they do not see those outside of their 'thinking' as human.

You obsession with me, and having to lie to impart inhuman qualities to me: Proves my point.

Keep it up.

Note to those stating, in the PM's, I should not respond to Es99's stupid attacks: Sometimes it is a slow day :)

Oh Clyde, it looks to me like you are quite capable of imparting inhuman qualities to yourself. You don't need my help. You do it time and time again yourself.

Please don't flatter yourself that I am obsessed with you....that really isn't the word I'd use to describe the feeling I get when I see the horrible things you say.

I think disappointment would be a better word to use.
16) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1604563)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
When you dehumanise someone you open the door for evil acts. It doesn't matter who that person is.

A sociopath can commit evil because they really don't see other people as human.

A prison system can commit evil because it doesn't see the people in its care as human.

Religious extremists can commit evil because they don't see those outside their faith as human.

The Pope understands that people in prison are still human beings, Clyde thinks they are not. I know which one is on the side of evil in this.

Pope Francis washes feet of male, female prison inmates
17) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1604135)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
For heavens sake.
Now you are off topic.
ISIS and the Islamic State are not humanitarians.
Most Muslims despise their methods
Please back to the topic. Are humans born evil.

Perhaps thats because most Muslims don't want to dehumanize other people. Unlike you.

I do not dehumanize other people.
Why should I? So far I havent been assaulted to a such degree that I would complain.
But others do.
I have all the empathy for those victims.
None for the perpetrators.
Please remember that we are discussing EVIL persons here.

Still persons though. To treat a person as less than a person is still evil, no matter what they've done.
18) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1604104)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
This is what humanity is capable of:

forgiveness and reconciliation, the Spirit of Enniskillen

Gordon Wilson lived very much on this planet.

"I bear no ill will. I bear no grudge"

Very powerful.

No "ill will" against those who have Brutally Raped and Murdered YOUR Infant Child?

After that has happened to YOUR Child: Then, and only then, will you have any real understanding.

Or will you still have Empathy FOR this vile and evil person, who has slaughtered YOUR Child.

Well if my child had been raped or sexually assaulted I would hardly publicly announce it would I? There is too much shame and stigma associated with it.

So your demand that anyone with a child who had been through that should use such a horrific event to make a point on the internet is more than silly. It is not one that people would be willing to admit to for the sake of the child who has to live with something like that for the rest of their lives and doesn't deserve to have it posted all over the internet.

How do you expect people to respond to your statement Clyde? The fact that you made it shows that you don't even have empathy for the parents of victims.

Again...

Not to the point, and now INCREASED name calling and accusations.

Understand one thing. I do understand The Left's Technique in discussions, which is:

Continue to increase Name Calling and Bullying when The Left is losing the Intellectual Portion of the discussion.

Then have the Innocent Accused respond to Unthinking Left Wing Attacks.

No. I don't play that childish game. I just state The Truth of The Left, which is the exact same as The Right.

You guys are easy. Keep it up.

I see yet again you have missed the point.

You don't know the stories of people on this forum, and a lot of them are never going to tell you. If you are going to make points try to remember that you may well be accusing the very people that you are pretending to defend.
19) Message boards : Politics : on the political correctness of political correctness (Message 1604094)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor

+1
Who invented the term "Political Correctness"?
I call it oppression!

Exactly! It was invented by the right wing to silence people who called for respect and equality. The term is definitely oppression and should be seen for what it is.

The term "Political Correctness" seems old:)
An example is James Wilson's post in the US Republic in 1793:
The states, rather than the people, for whose sake the states exist, are frequently the objects which attract and arrest our principal attention... Sentiments and expressions of this inaccurate kind prevail in our common, even in our convivial, language... ‘The United States,’ instead of the ‘People of the United States,’ is the toast given. This is not politically correct.

Wikipedia actually has quite a good section on the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness
20) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1604091)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Es99Project donor
This is what humanity is capable of:

forgiveness and reconciliation, the Spirit of Enniskillen

Gordon Wilson lived very much on this planet.

"I bear no ill will. I bear no grudge"

Very powerful.

No "ill will" against those who have Brutally Raped and Murdered YOUR Infant Child?

After that has happened to YOUR Child: Then, and only then, will you have any real understanding.

Or will you still have Empathy FOR this vile and evil person, who has slaughtered YOUR Child.

Well if my child had been raped or sexually assaulted I would hardly publicly announce it would I? There is too much shame and stigma associated with it.

So your demand that anyone with a child who had been through that should use such a horrific event to make a point on the internet is more than silly. It is not one that people would be willing to admit to for the sake of the child who has to live with something like that for the rest of their lives and doesn't deserve to have it posted all over the internet.

How do you expect people to respond to your statement Clyde? The fact that you made it shows that you don't even have empathy for the parents of victims.


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