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1) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1499980)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Hev
I would love to post the recent short French film "Oppressed Majority" about a world run by women. It is also posted on the Guardian website but has a few rude words so I can't link to it.
2) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1498019)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Hev
I don't think you understand the meaning of 'gender stereotype'. That is not like being part of a biker group or whatever, it means that each gender is supposed to behave in a certain way. Boys need to be rough, girls need to be delicate, boys get to play with Legos and toy soldiers, girls play with barbies and my little ponies, boys wear jeans, girls wear skirts. Those are gender stereotypes. They are social constructs and they are harmful because they diminish individual freedom. On top of that, some people actively promote these kind of stereotypes because they believe that is how people are supposed to act. Men work, women take care of the household and are to serve the men, that kind of thing. These stereotypes are therefor not the result of the 'public face' as much as they are behaviors that are actively taught to people.

Now people become slowly more aware of gender stereotypes and the effects they have on people and a lot of people want to get rid of them, as honestly, why shouldn't girls get to play with Lego and why shouldn't boys get to play with My Little Ponies. If that interests them, why should they be punished by their environment for liking certain kind of toys. But still plenty of people think different and they want to raise their children according to these stereotypes and clearly this school had a similar philosophy. Which is their business, its their right as private school and it is the right of the parents to send their children to such a school.


Just what decade are you living in,the 1930's ?

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I can honestly say,that apart from younger brothers, I have never heard anyone say "You can't do that, you're a girl." Gender stereotypes have been dying since the end of the 1940's. I know because I've seen it happening. These days a female has choices. They can put on jeans and a T shirt or they can dress up in a slinky "little black dress" if that is their choice.

And that statement is the whole crux of the matter If That Is Their Choice !

T.A.


I grew up in the 60's in the rural Deep South (U.S.A.) and I heard a number of times that I couldn't and many more times that I shouldn't, do something, say something, wear something because I was a girl. I was small and soft-spoken but no one could beat me on my bike or climb higher in the trees and I spent most of my summer days out in the woods with my dog. (I also decorated a dollhouse and dressed up the dogs in doll clothes). My mother could not have cared less, my grandmothers fretted about me and the neighbors most definitely disapproved. They were too scared of my mother to say anything to her but they made sure I knew there was something not quite right about me.

I was first asked how many children I wanted when I was 6 years old and I stopped hearing that question only recently (the grey hair may have something to do with that). I left that small rural community almost 30 years ago but it has made little difference where I've lived; strangers, coworkers and acquaintances have all felt free assume the primary purpose of my existence is to have children and all decisions ultimately must accommodate this reality. And they are free to question and comment on this matter as if it is their business as much as mine. No one ever asked my brother or male cousins about marriage and children. Even living in a large, cosmopolitan city and working with younger people it still shocks people when I jump up on the table to change the light bulb rather than waiting for some guy to do it for me. And the comment is not to wait for some younger person to do it; even the younger women in jeans and sneakers are expected to let a man, even a much older, less agile, or less competent man do certain tasks.

All of that may sound trivial to you but it is merely a taste of the omnipresent expectation that females must cheerfully submit to the judgement of others, particularly about their femininity, at all times. No stranger, on the street or in an office, has ever told my brother to smile or commented on his appearance but I've yet to meet a woman who hasn't experienced this and been told they are overreacting if they complain or are a bitch for not being pleased by the attention.

I started practicing the art of disappointing the expectations of others at a young age but even so adolescence and young adulthood were pretty brutal. We may have all had choices but the pressure to make the choice that proved our femininity to others was intense.

Which brings us back to Sunnie Kahle and Timberlake Christian School. The school has said Sunnie has not violated the rules. Girls may wear pants, cut their hair short and play sports. But the school has determined that Sunnie, in some undefined way, does not meet their standards for femininity and so should be pressured to choose not to wear pants or short hair, play sports or behave in any way others might think too "boyish". She is being asked to actively monitor her appearance, behavior, attitudes and interests to conform to a subjective standard that others will define for her when she fails to meet it. This is what almost every woman I've ever known has experienced to some degree and I've known many who have regretted decisions they made or grieved the angst they felt under this pressure.


Snags


Well said Snagletooth, thank you.
3) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How's life going for me? (Message 1497749)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile Hev
Hi anniet, the forums on Einstein used to be a haven for us to escape to when it got really nasty here. Perhaps time for another visit..
4) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (Message 1496299)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile Hev

You did just claim that someone was being treated as a second class citizen because her parents send her to a school which believes in traditional gender roles and asked the parents to make sure their child complies with them. Sorry but I think that before you can claim that you are being treated as a second class citizen you have to be treated a little worse than that. You know, like losing the right to vote, drive a car, enjoy basic civil liberties. Sorry, but I think that does fall under the category 'overreaction'.

Oh boy. Thanks for explaining to me what it feels like to be a woman. You've got me there. I would never have known if you weren't there to point it out to me.

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Daughter, the struggle continues...
5) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1459306)
Posted 105 days ago by Profile Hev
Some of us are small people here contributing what we can because we are interested in the project.

Occasionally I've had a green star next to my name, I have always understood the donations to be voluntary.

Having a separate forum for the elite doesn't sit well with me, we are already having massive problems with the elites on this planet.

The politcal forums should be open for all, people should not be excluded, we have moderators there for a reason.
6) Message boards : Cafe SETI : John Clark (Message 1441406)
Posted 155 days ago by Profile Hev
This is terribly sad news. I shall miss John..
7) Message boards : Politics : UK at it again... (Message 1405853)
Posted 238 days ago by Profile Hev
Meanwhile I'm innocent, I have nothing to hide so I'll be ok.
8) Message boards : Politics : New Travellers Sites Guidance (Message 1405637)
Posted 238 days ago by Profile Hev
Much ado about nothing.
Not worth a thread on it's own.

Very true, another scapegoating thread.
9) Message boards : Politics : UK at it again... (Message 1405402)
Posted 239 days ago by Profile Hev
From an alternative news source UK ordered Guardian to destroy hard drives in effort to stop Snowden revelations
10) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1356708)
Posted 367 days ago by Profile Hev
tribute to Thatcher in parliament
11) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355574)
Posted 370 days ago by Profile Hev
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@Hev - I actually feel sorry for Blair, at the time as the Labour PM, he was between a rock and a hard place. He had the best two security services in the world the CIA, and his own MI6, both telling him that Iraq had WMD and was prepared to use them. How likely was it that they were both wrong? He had Bush telling him that the USA were going in anyway, and quoting the "special relationship". If he didn't take the UK in, he could have to explain a missile attack on London with thousands killed, and the UK getting no more Intelligence from the USA, and being ordered out of USA military territory. If he went in, he would have to face the likely deaths of British troops. What would Thatcher or any other PM have done?


I sometimes despair of you Chris. Most of us knew it was an unlawful war right from the beginning, did you not watch Blair and co spin and turn trying to justify it? Perhaps the Daily Mail didn't give out the information the rest of us got.
30 million people worldwide marched against the invasion.

Prime Minister Harold Wilson didn't get involved with the Vietnam War.
12) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355536)
Posted 370 days ago by Profile Hev
I think if you haven't been moderated for your language then it is accepted.


Why Wouldn't It Be Accepted? He/She Speaks DEM/Libberish.

Bound For It.

What?
13) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355535)
Posted 370 days ago by Profile Hev
Not sure why they are commenting on the death of a PM when they are no longer UK citizens??

Although there is no reason why they cannot, as Hev lived through Thatcher's Premiership. As for ES, she was a child of Thatcher, growing up then, but was totally unaffected by the PMs policies either by personal loss or experience ...

John, "they" are still UK citizens and even if they weren't they are still entitled to make whatever comments they like.
It reminds me of the old argument for apartheid in South Africa. You were not allowed to have an opinion because you had never been there and therefore wouldn't understand. Well some of us are intelligent creatures and we can gather information from all different sources.

You see, it's not just about how we are affected individually, but how thatcher's policies affected a whole swathe of the population, how the infrastructure of the country was decimated, communities and manufacturing jobs destroyed, how vulnerable people ended up sleeping in doorways. I could go on and on but the list has already been posted.

The floodgates were opened and permission for selfish and individualistic behaviour was given with little regard for the lasting effect on the culture of what had been a caring and inclusive society which looked after people.

For some of us, there is such a thing as society and we are all responsible for each other. Unfortunately the thugs in charge today are continuing the smash and grab.

Yes, thatcher began the latest bout of the class war and so it continues...
14) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355523)
Posted 370 days ago by Profile Hev
@dear Chris I don't mean to offen but the use of Astreicks is something i'll probably have trouble not being able to use we have a very courlful language here in oz

It's never meant to offend

I had a copper tell me stop swearing or i'm gona arrest you ,I was at a train station and got searched for dugs not that I had any and got a rather pissed off, my answer to him was we have a very coulorful language if your taking offence to the way i'm talking then go to the airport and buy a ticket back to the place ya come from .He was of middle estern origin , his co worker behind him a ozzie woman officer was trying to stop laughing cause she knew that it wouldn't stand up in court in fact it's been thrown out 3 time before and the reason is and I quote "Australians have a coulorful language "

I have cleaned the conversation up just for you but you can imagine I was using the f word every second . So please don't ever take offence to a ozzie swearing it usually means they like you and have drop there p's and q's and started talking normally which is you swear a lot . But sorry if you took offence


Glenn, I like your colourful language. Please don't stop or otherwise I will be offended. I think if you haven't been moderated for your language then it is accepted.
15) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355252)
Posted 371 days ago by Profile Hev
You're just confirming what I've posted. "Took to the brink" Did we get there?

23 years ago....what about since then?

BBC again....... Blair Brown Cameron

More than enough time to put a halt to "Thatcherism"

13 years of lefties - did they change anything?

Nope, just spend spend spend & lined their own pockets as well & when booted out of power, every time claim that the rich & elites subjugating the workers.....

...vote us back in as the elite & rich going to stuff us further.

Catch 22 then isn't it! Hmmmn, whatever happened to the USSR?


I agree with you. I left the Labour Party with many other people when Blair took away clause IV in 1995. Blair/Brown, they are of the same ilk as Cameron. "New Labour" moved to the right and there is no way it could be called a party of the "lefties".

The Labour Party should have put a halt to thatcherism, but didn't, they carried on the neoliberal project.

I look forward to the day when Blair is put on trial for war crimes
16) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355218)
Posted 371 days ago by Profile Hev
Ex top cop: "Margaret Thatcher took us to the brink of becoming a police state"

I don't think the ex deputy chief constable of Greater Manchester, John Stalker, is by any means a bleeding heart liberal.
17) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1355194)
Posted 371 days ago by Profile Hev
I really loved Spitting Image
18) Message boards : Politics : Last Gasp Saloon (Message 1354990)
Posted 372 days ago by Profile Hev
Thatcherism was a national catastrophe that still poisons us

Also, speaking of the company people keep, check out some of the unsavoury characters that Thatcher hung around with.

If you need a list I will supply one later on.
19) Message boards : Politics : Sandy Hook (Message 1352049)
Posted 382 days ago by Profile Hev
Don't worry Es, we wouldn't let him in the country. The UK Border Agency might be pretty incompetent, but even they would refuse entry to known psychotics.


That part might be true But I seem to recall some terroists were let in.

We let a few out. The shoe bomber was from Brixton,he used to sell incense outside of Iceland.

He was that guy?
20) Message boards : Politics : Carlin. (Message 1350800)
Posted 386 days ago by Profile Hev
When one lives in Canada, everything below the 49th is south.

I think it's time to build a wall Robert, just like the Israeli one.


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