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1) Message boards : Number crunching : R9 290s with GPU load issues (Message 1707718)
Posted 4 hours ago by Profile HAL9000
i am trying to get the drivers installed so i can use the streaming procesors in a HD 4290 and for the life of me i cannot get the drivers installed in win 10 and it keeps saying no usable gpu found but it is there boinc recohnizes is

Aside from the possible Windows 10 incompatibility, I wouldn't blame the drivers. I would guess that old chipset graphics like HD 4290 simply doesn't support OpenCL, which is what BOINC would be looking for. OpenCL on discrete HD 4000 GPUs was only at a beta level and I know from past experience that it wasn't great at working with BOINC. It's possible that you could get some CAL driver support recognised in BOINC, but that really isn't very useful in S@h.

Not all Radeon HD 4000 series GPUs even had beta level OpenCL support. However I've had no issues with my older HD 3450's & Windows 10 using the same ancient Cat 12 driver I use in Windows 7. They are happy to run projects that support CAL just fine.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1707571)
Posted 16 hours ago by Profile HAL9000
The migration software that came with my Samsung SSD was nothing short of amazing.....
Plugged the SSD into a USB port with a SATA/USB adapter and launched the software disk. It took about 2-1/2 hours, and built a mirror image of my system on the SSD. Unplugged the hard drive, plugged in the SSD, and it took off like nothing ever happened.
Except for booting in 10 seconds VS several minutes from the hard drive...LOL.
It's now a hoot to reboot.

I dunno if that software is available stand alone, or if it would work under any other scenarios.

Most of the SSD manufactures provide some kind of disk cloning tool that can be downloaded from their website. However some will only clone to a drive from the manufacture. I have been using Norton/Symantec Ghost for about 15 years & so far it hasn't let me down.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : I seem to have found a Windows 10 / BIONC and/or S@H problem (Message 1707568)
Posted 16 hours ago by Profile HAL9000
My best guess at the moment is that it might be related to the iGPU driver v4256. I had to download the latest one from Intel. As Windows 10 refused to accept the ones I was using for the Windows 7 & 8.1 installations.

Could be the issue -- the Intel driver update utility tells me that my driver (specifically version 10.18.15.4256) is up-to-date. I don't see anything newer available.

Oh and I see that I clobbered BOINC as "BIONC" in my original posts. Sorry about that. Guess that happens when you grow up watching the BIONIC Man/Woman series on TV.

The 4256 iGPU driver release is from July 28th. So I wouldn't expect anything new to appear anytime soon.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : I seem to have found a Windows 10 / BIONC and/or S@H problem (Message 1707439)
Posted 22 hours ago by Profile HAL9000
I've had no such problems so far could be machine specific to a certain combination of hardware they prolly patch it soon

My best guess at the moment is that it might be related to the iGPU driver v4256. I had to download the latest one from Intel. As Windows 10 refused to accept the ones I was using for the Windows 7 & 8.1 installations.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : I seem to have found a Windows 10 / BIONC and/or S@H problem (Message 1707409)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile HAL9000
I was having similar issues with Windows 10. However I had not yet started BOINC. I sense there may be an update coming.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1707336)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile HAL9000
If we didn't have to support it at work I wouldn't have it anywhere near my machines there.

Free OS, yeah sure, and those who falls for it are the real product.

Just like everyone with an Android or iOS device.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1707330)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile HAL9000
Installed on a Intel cruncher with iGPU.

It downloads the latest drivers when you install. After rolling back the iGPU driver to the one I had before it couldn't detect my screen so I got stuck at 1024x764 res. You have no control over the drivers, it just downloads the latest and installs it. After rolling back to original it downloaded the latest one again.

Edge was quick. Pity about the driver crap. I've gone back to Win7.

I have to pull the network cable during setup do Windows 10 wouldn't start downloading updates in the background. Then once I configured windows to not do constant automatic updates I reconnected the network cable.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : FIFO?? (Message 1707329)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile HAL9000
Whatever happening to FIFO when processing tasks? A while back I commented on one of the other threads that MB (cuda50) tasks were jumping the queue and started working while AP tasks where sitting on the side line. Now I'm seeing AP CPU tasks sitting on the side line collecting dust and the AP GPU tasks are running, leaving the cores not allocated for GPU use idle. This morning I changed my global preferences to allow other apps to run if no AP tasks available. D/l'ed a number of MB (CPU & GPU), and the MB CPU tasks took off running as soon as they finished d/l'ing. Even though I'm running BOINC 7.6.6 & Lunatics 0.43b, I've seen this happening under BOINC 7.4.42 & Lunatics 0.43a during regression testing.

I thought we determined that the tasks were running in High Priority, but since High Priority was removed form the GUI you were just unable to tell that was happening.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : observation about windows 10 (Message 1706969)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile HAL9000
i did a clean install of win10 yesterday,since seti restarted today it seems my 290x is processing about twice as fast as before,finishing the tasks in half the time. just found it interesting..

The work sent out isn't always the same. Some of it takes longer, VLAR tasks, or some of it takes much less time, VHAR tasks. A normal angle range(AR) is ~0.42 with values that deviate much higher being refereed to as VHAR(very high angle range), about 1.127 & higher, & those that are much below VLAR(very low angle range), about 0.30 & lower. Unfortunately your speed increase looks to be due to completing shorter tasks than it was doing previously.

If you look at a completed MB result you can look for the line that says WU true angle range is :.

For a completed Astropulse task you can look for the line that says percent blanked:. Where a high percentage of blanking mean there was not a lot of work to do in that task.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1706751)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Task Manager did not show BOINC in the Win 10 task manager startup tab even after starting BOINC. It did show under the processes tab, but you cannot alter it to show in startup tab. I uninstalled BOINC, recycled the machine, and installed BOINC 7.6.6 cleanly, and recycled the machine again without launching BOINC. When the OS came back up, BOINC was in the startup tab and started normally. So the conditions that I initially stated are essentially true. If you uncheck the 2 BOINC boxes via msconfig, for whatever reasons, prior to the upgrade, it will not be carried over to the task manager, therefore will not show in the startup tab.

I had thought I saw a way to add items to the start up from there. Perhaps that was only in one of the beta release or one of the medications I am on. Likely the later.
If one wanted to prevent BOINC from processing while updating to Windows 10 it would probably be best to set BOINC activity to suspend in that case.

I'm still in the early stages of getting all the documents together to tell my coworkers "This is how you do task X now". Once I finish that I plan to load up non-Pro and see about getting the automagic updates disabled like in Pro.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse tasks (Message 1706745)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Does anybody know if the APs that are out that claim the application is
Not in DB
will validate?

The message "not in db" is in the application field. From what I have seen it looks like there was an issue populating the name field for hosts using Anonymous platform. I would expect this to only be a cosmetic issue that seems to have already been resolved.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1706693)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Make sure that any programs (i.e. BOINC) that you want to auto start when OZS starts up are set in msconfig prior to upgrade. I made the mistake of blanking the BOINC boxes and I see no way to turn them back on. I may have to reinstall BOINC.

As far as I know, this is regulated through the registry, not through Msconfig/startup.

Before trying anything else, open BOINC Manager, and then depending on BOINC version:
7.4 and before, Tools->Options
7.6 and later, Options->Other options...

Now uncheck "Run Manager at login?" and OK if checked and then do that again to check this option.
Or just check "Run Manager at login?" if unchecked, then OK.

This will start BOINC at Windows login.


That box was already checked. If you run msconfig in Win 7 and press the startup tab, you can check/uncheck which programs start up at any particular time. If I'm upgrading/updating something and had to recycle and didn't want BOINC to start at the next recycle, I just uncheck the 2 boxes. You can do this and have the machine recycle at that time or not. If those 2 boxes are unchecked at the time of the upgrade, as in my case, then BOINC will not auto start, regardless of what is specified in the manager.

In Task Manager there is a start up tab. You can right click items and select disable to have them not run on the next boot. I don't have the Windows 10 system in front of me right now, but adding new start up items can probably be done there as well.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1706456)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile HAL9000
I grabbed the "Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2 (ARM)" version when I was getting the standard .isos at work. Now I just need a Raspberry Pi 2 to install it on.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1705862)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Upgraded one of my machines to 7.4.42.....miss the messages section. Notices is just annoying....

I'm still using the manager v6.10.48. So I don't have to see the annoying notices tab & get my message right where I like them. In plain view.I've considered downloading the source & building a manager with the current version but restoring the messages tab instead of the hidden event log, but I don't want to go through the effort of setting up the environment to just to compile the manager.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705774)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Well your "used ID is - 226846
Hal's is - 792
And mine is - 812533

Quite why you have a lower id than me seems odd but there probably is a reason.

Off topic, but since the question came up - I got UserID 5509.

About a year before SETI Classic closed down, and when BOINC was getting ready to roll, they did a bulk import of active SETI Classic users to seed the new BOINC database. I don't know how far down the list they went, but those which were imported were done in Classic ranking order - so the lower your UID now, the more Classic work you returned.

I had always wondered why my UID was so low. I figured it had something to do with signing up with BOINC during the original alpha testing, but your explanation seems rather logical. When they did the import I might have been #792, but by the time Classic ended I dropped down to #1001.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705660)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Quite a few of us would like to see him disappear for good and never come back, but even his little contribution does help and has to be seen as welcome. If he annoys you that much, which of course he deliberately does to get attention, the answer is to put him on ignore. As an international project we cannot stop the mentally challenged from signing up and posting, provided they don't break the rules.

I found out that BOINC has a limit of only 26 users on the ignore list. Trying to add more results in an error.


Actually when Zapped Sparky reported this a a problem this was David Anderson's answer

The database field that stores ignored user IDs is 254 chars long, and Zapped has reached this limit.

The code should handle this more gracefully, or remove the limit. For now, you can un-ignore some people.


So it is all to do with how long the users ID's are.

Well that explanation makes sense. However with the 26 users I have on ignore their total length comes to 161 characters. Likely closers to 186 with a comma separating IDs or 238 if the values are stored in quotes & separated by commas. It seems like I should be able to add at least 1 more, but maybe there is some other overhead in that stored value.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1705571)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Further updates are in the works (already)

Before Windows 10 has even launched, Microsoft's upgrade plans for the OS have leaked. Most recently, Neowin reports that wave 2 of Threshold, the long-standing codename for Windows 10, will land this October. However, this update will reportedly focus on optimizing and stabilizing the operating system. If you're already holding out for some major changes, expect to hold out for quite some time.

According to an earlier Neowin report, the first major update will come June 2016 and the other October of next year, with Microsoft operating under the codename Redstone. That said, I would expect that timing to change. A whopping 11 months is quite a long time before issuing features that were cut from the initial Windows 10 release.

Microsoft recently clarified that statement with specific figures: Windows 10 will be supported with new features and updates until October 13, 2020. Extended support, e.g. security patches, will carry on until October 14, 2025. This seems to apply to both Windows 10 on desktop and Windows 10 Mobile.


Win 10

As of Friday our contact to MS indicated that MS still does not have a release date for Windows 10 Mobile. Nor did they indicate which devices will currently support updating to Windows 10 Mobile. Which was our actual inquiry.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705566)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Quite a few of us would like to see him disappear for good and never come back, but even his little contribution does help and has to be seen as welcome. If he annoys you that much, which of course he deliberately does to get attention, the answer is to put him on ignore. As an international project we cannot stop the mentally challenged from signing up and posting, provided they don't break the rules.

I found out that BOINC has a limit of only 26 users on the ignore list. Trying to add more results in an error.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting time for WU download (Message 1705565)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile HAL9000
This might seem like quite a minor point to bring up but every time I download new WU's I have to wait 5 minutes between batches. Is there any way to reduce this waiting time? Thanks.

The interval limit was put in place to prevent the high end machines from pounding the servers with requests.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705319)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile HAL9000
When sometimes says "SETI hasn't found anything & isn't useful" I would ask.
If an x-ray is taken looking for broken bones & no broken bones are found. Does that mean that taking x-rays are not useful? It only indicates what was being looked for in that area at that time was not present. In science a negative result is still a result.


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