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41) Message boards : Politics : What is "God" and what can "It" "Do"? (Message 1259204)
Posted 645 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Science is science and religion is religion; they are not necessarily incompatible. But science doesn't prove religion nor does religion teach us science. The purpose of science is to explain the workings of the physical universe; while the purpose of religion is (very broadly) to teach us how to be better people to each other and to ourselves.

Please don't use the words of the Bible or any other religious book to argue that since the science isn't right, therefore religion must also be false. Religious teaching is rife with parables, metaphors and allegories, because those teachings are not concerned with scientific reality, but with moral and ethical truths. If you dismiss the works of Shakespeare or Tolkien because what they wrote did not really happen, then you miss the point completely.
42) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1256920)
Posted 650 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Very impressive, especially for its efficiency. The spectators didn't have to waste precious minutes in a long drawn out show.
43) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1255493)
Posted 653 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Happy 4th of July.
44) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1253381)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Obamacare is just like Medicare, it is not private health insurance ...

Private health insurance is you going to state farm or any other insurance company and buying a policy.

Socialized health care is everyone dumping money in the federal pot.

All you old men will not get a heart transplant, or new knees. When someone in their late 30's or early 40's is needing the same. They [the federal government] will tell you when and where and even IF you get the treatment you NEED. All Old men will be left in the hallway to die. Bottom line...

Then fund it, honestly, like Medicare! Impose a tax, call it a tax, then ask Representatives and Senators from the 50 states to vote on it (of course it would not have passed). Don't require private individuals to buy something then penalize them if they choose not to, which the Supremes just deemed to be a tax, even though Congress insisted it was not.
45) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1253128)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
In time Health Care for Americans will be a Constitutional Mandate.
ObamNeyCare is just a first step.
In civilized societies like France Health Care "for all" is funded by taxes,
and the results are "Awesome".

Someone is still upset over G. W. Bush being called a liar.

Yeah, everything is GWB with you. Well, take off your blinders and look critically at your wonderful President Obama. He did not do anything to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, he has not fixed the economy, he has not closed Guantanamo, and on and on. For all the excuses you may come up with (actually you seem to have only one: that it's all GWB's fault) President Obama's term has been a failure.

Oh, and your claim that Health Care is a "Constitutional Mandate" demonstrates a severe lack of understanding of the American Constitution.
46) Message boards : Politics : Fast and Furious scandal (Message 1253123)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Holder and Issa are both being disingenuous at best. Crap happens on both sides of this political equation. Makes it balance.

I'm sure you can find examples of your claim about Holder being disingenuous, but that is not the point. In this instance, Holder was asked to explain an action by his department (sending a letter that was admitted to be false during a legitimate Congressional investigation) and he refused, relying on executive privilege . . . for documents he once was ready to reveal.

One person's bad actions (Issa) do not excuse the actions of another (Holder).

But besides that, this claim of privilege just smells like stonewalling. If you have nothing to hide then let the facts come out. It's a little late, after offering to reveal those documents, to then claim that they can't be revealed because they are "privileged".
47) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1253113)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
It's a matter of opinion.

I feel health care should be a guaranteed right, in the US, as it is in other industrialized nations.

I don't think cars (or any material possessions) are "rights".

Your taxes (and mine) already are paying for government supplied services. Adding one service, no matter how big of a service, changes nothing about the way we are taxed.

You or I hopefully haven't needed/wanted to call the police. But if we did, they are there for us.


I don't think it's going to pan out as bad as some people think, nor do I believe Obamacare being passed will "open the floodgates" of socialism. The right, when talking about Obamacare, sound as priests did during the Salem trials. Much ado about nothing.


Health departments, freeways and police are not rights, and neither is health care. Yes, my first three examples are government services, but their costs are not forced on individuals (you don't pay the cop who investigates a burglary of your house) but on all taxpayers. In this case, you only get penalized (taxed, according the the Sup.Ct.) if you don't buy this service--this is completely different from any other government service. Collective government services are historically and fundamentally different from privately purchased goods and services.

And I'm sure he doesn't care, but President Obama, who promised no tax increases from his administration, has been made a liar by the Supreme Court.
48) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1253083)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
So now the Supremes have confirmed that: Everyone will be made to buy health insurance. This is somewhat logical since Congress has determined that it is in the public's interest for everyone to have health insurance. Not everyone wants or needs health insurance however, so if you don't buy health insurance you will be taxed some monetary amount that will accrue to the US Government. The feds can't penalize you under the commerce clause, but there are no constitutional limits on taxing you.

Let's look at this another way. The Federal government owns lots of GM stock, so based on today's Sup.Ct. decision the following could legally (constitutionally) take place: Everyone will be made to buy (a GM vehicle). This is somewhat logical since Congress [could determine] that it is in the public's interest for everyone to have (a GM vehicle). Not everyone wants or needs (a GM vehicle) however, so if you don't buy (a GM vehicle) you will be taxed some monetary amount that will accrue to the US Government. The feds can't penalize you under the commerce clause, but there are no constitutional limits on taxing you.

At least in the second scenario the value of GM stock should rise nicely.


But in the first scenario, as we've already seen, hospital stocks will rise nicely.

Either way, you pointed out my one issue with Obamacare. The positive I see here however, is perhaps more people will be in favor or a single payer system, as this whole thing comes to fruition.

The second scenario shows why the first is so abhorrent. If you think Congress can do the tax thing in the case of health insurance, then what limits do they have at all?
49) Message boards : Politics : Fast and Furious scandal (Message 1253082)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Holder is being disingenuous at best. He was willing to show Issa's committee the documents he said would fulfill the subpoena, as long as the contempt proceedings were stopped (sounds like a bribe), but when Issa didn't take the bait--and I wouldn't have agreed to that deal either, sight unseen--Holder whipped out a letter declaring that the very documents he just been willing to give were now protected by "executive privilege". If nothing is being covered up, then why take such extreme measures to protect documents that you were willing to reveal in one breath, but have to be "protected" in the next breath?
50) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1253077)
Posted 658 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
So now the Supremes have confirmed that: Everyone will be made to buy health insurance. This is somewhat logical since Congress has determined that it is in the public's interest for everyone to have health insurance. Not everyone wants or needs health insurance however, so if you don't buy health insurance you will be taxed some monetary amount that will accrue to the US Government. The feds can't penalize you under the commerce clause, but there are no constitutional limits on taxing you.

Let's look at this another way. The Federal government owns lots of GM stock, so based on today's Sup.Ct. decision the following could legally (constitutionally) take place: Everyone will be made to buy (a GM vehicle). This is somewhat logical since Congress [could determine] that it is in the public's interest for everyone to have (a GM vehicle). Not everyone wants or needs (a GM vehicle) however, so if you don't buy (a GM vehicle) you will be taxed some monetary amount that will accrue to the US Government. The feds can't penalize you under the commerce clause, but there are no constitutional limits on taxing you.

At least in the second scenario the value of GM stock should rise nicely.
51) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kids, I am nearly done here. (Message 1250948)
Posted 663 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
You could cut back, as I have, but it's hard to leave altogether. These boards can get boring at times, but then you look in, out of curiosity, and see something that interests you. If your RAC is "0" you can't post.

You've done a lot of crunching for the project. You've made your mark. There's no need to continue at this level--there are lots of volunteers.
52) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1248441)
Posted 668 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
As I'm going to be in Chicago in the near future, I am looking forward to some good Chicago style, deep dish pizza! (not from a machine!)

Chicago is the best place to get some pizza I always heared.

I have had some great New York style pizza, with a thin crust and superb sauce, but compared to Chicago style pizza, a classic New York pizza is just finger food--an appetizer. The deep dish pizza, for which Chicago is best known, is substantial, filling and more like a meal. Looking at them side-by-side, which one can more reasonably be called a "pizza pie"?
53) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1248436)
Posted 668 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Tell me something I don't know.
54) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1247323)
Posted 670 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
As I'm going to be in Chicago in the near future, I am looking forward to some good Chicago style, deep dish pizza! (not from a machine!)
55) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1240480)
Posted 684 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
It's a beautiful day outside my window, even though hurricane season officially started yesterday. Blue sky and 80ยบ today!
56) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1231165)
Posted 706 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
I don't remember if I mentioned what a good time I had skiing this year. Thanks Jeremy for your good wishes--it must have worked since the trip (skiing, gambling, eating, etc.) was a great success.
57) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1214157)
Posted 743 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
So, I was watching this internet video someone sent me about a smartphone app that had bugs crawling on the screen and the phone's owner was showing it to a big toad. The funny part is that the toad keeps trying to catch the bugs on the smartphone then it misses and chomps on the phone owner's thumb.

Usually I would dismiss these things as fake because animals shouldn't be fooled by a two dimensional image on a screen, but as it happened, I had my puppy on my lap and soon my little dog was growling and barking at the toad on my computer screen that was lunging at the bugs on some guy's smartphone.

I just thought that was ironic.
58) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1213848)
Posted 744 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Glad to hear you're ok Q!

Getting a little bored, but I do look in here every once in a while. Good to hear from you, too, Blurf.
59) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 16 (Message 1213794)
Posted 744 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
I'm fine, just a bit busy. I also got back recently from Reno, where the weather was fine, and Tahoe where the snow was good (finally). Also, the all-you-can-eat lobster buffet was better this year.
60) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198153)
Posted 787 days ago by Profile Qui-Gon
Perhaps it is partisan -- now you wouldn't engage in partisan name calling yourself, would you? Thought so.



My point exactly. That is, by my recollection, the only time. There were lots of posters here who called GWB by that name and worse during his tenure. Isn't it a little disingenuous to point it out only now when someone uses a less-than-flattering term for President Obama?



Do you have an example in mind where I engaged in partisan name calling? Much as I disagree with President Obama's policies, I don't call him names . . . and I have never claimed he is "not my President", as so many posters would claim about GWB on these boards.


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