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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Bionic crahing laptop and not running? (Message 1697852)
Posted 20 hours ago by Profile Raistmer
You shouldn't be running SETI@Home on a laptop. Period!

It's utterly wrong.
SETI@home GPU apps developed on netbook, just FYI.
Any computational device can be used provided user of device have some will to solve issues that may appear on some.

I'm not saying you can't (develop or compute). Just that you shouldn't.

And that's exactly I object against. Nothing prevents use to use computational device called notebook. It could be just more challenging in case of poor cooling from manufacturer. But poor cooling can be on any low-grade device. Why not to say "you should not crunch on anything but enterprise-grade hardware" ??...
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Bionic crahing laptop and not running? (Message 1697657)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Raistmer
You shouldn't be running SETI@Home on a laptop. Period!

It's utterly wrong.
SETI@home GPU apps developed on netbook, just FYI.
Any computational device can be used provided user of device have some will to solve issues that may appear on some.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697204)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Raistmer
Error in HD5 kernel that should not execute on HD4xxx hardware! Improper scheduler config :/
Try to install anonymous platform app instead or abort all "ati5" tasks until you start to get only "ati" ones, w/o "5" in app name.
Then, if some error appears post again.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1696932)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Raistmer
To diagnose your issue you need to unhide your hosts in WEB project preferencies.
Or to post stderr logs for failed tasks.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on bool2 (Message 1696504)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Raistmer
Well, considerable efforts were made to get stock AstroPulse be updated fast enough to fix this issue.
So, stock users don't affected now. And for anonymous platform users it should be not SO hard. Cause they decided they more advanced to go anonymous platform some time ago ;)
Anyway, AFAIK corresponding Lunatics installer update on the way to help those who use anonymous platform only via that installer thing. If text editor usage fully unaccepted one can await that installer update. Anyway currently not too much AP tasks to cry about.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on bool2 (Message 1696403)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Raistmer

I'm going to assume that what was meant was we pick the Kernel with the current Ap v7XX app number (for this example it's 2737) in which to modify. This is correct?

Yes, revision number of executable (exe) binary should correspond revision number of CL file.

So we modify all bool2 so they now read bool_2?

yes.


What do we do with Astropulse_Kernels_rXXXX.cl_GeForceGTX980.bin_V7_Twin_FFA_XXXXX?
Do we delete that and allow the kernel to rebuild?

In general - nothing. They can be deleted, they can be leaved as is.
The point is: if you have these files for revision you use currently - you do not affected bool2 issue at all. Most probably files you see have older rev numbers and can be deleted just to keep folder clean.


Once we do this, is there no longer a need to download Raistmer's Dropbox fix?

Well, usually if rev numbers differ big enough they have more than one change. So most right way still to get full new app package.That you called "fix".
But for those who don't want to do this to change CL file should be enough for they current revision continues to work.


After I replace all the bool2 to bool_2 can I copy this file to a flashdrive and move it to different computers to just copy and paste to those .cl files?

if rev numbers the same -yes. CL files of same rev are identical.


If that is so, then once we have a working file, we can post one here for everyone just to copy and paste into that .cl file?

LoL. Technically yes. But to post whole file - no.
1) it's long enough.
2) it's copyrighted work and I don't like to have it "fixed" in such way. It should be distributed along with whole package and all copyright notices it contains. And to post only part of it actually no better than to replace few bool2 occurencies via notepad.


Raistmer does your .cl in your file already contain these corrections or do we also have to do a search in your version as well. If your version is correct, couldn't we just copy your .cl and use it to replace the others?

Of course yes. For what reason I would offer not fixed file knowing about issue ??
But apparently it has different rev number from any CL file inmstalled before the fix. Also, depending of installed CL file, it can have other differencies so such way you propose not supported too. It may work and if rev number differ not too big will work in most cases but not in all.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse Error Message! (Message 1696217)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
Guys, please stop suggesting to revert to older drivers for this particular (bool2 vs bool_2) issue. Such reverse can do more bad than good.

Correct ways to deal with this issue:
1) simple edit of CL file
2) download and install updated app
3) revert with current stock NV AP.

Though time to time some driver restrictions occurs, it's not that case actually.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1696203)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
LoL, recived few letters from "nigerian banks" and "attorney of died rich relative" already but none of such kind. Perhaps they treat my mail domain as hopeless for such threats :D :D :D
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1696188)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.

Easiest way is to use a disk/partition imaging tool. Like Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image. Make an image of the system partition in its current state, apply the OS "upgrade", make image of new OS partition. Then you can go between either at will.

Again, as I said technically this is one of possible ways to switch between seuencies of bytes on your PC. But, as we all know SOME sequencies of bytes treating DIFFERENTLY from many others. That's called "Copyright laws". The question not how to change one byte sequence to another - it's not the problem. The question is will usage of Win7/8 LICENSE after that particular copy was marked as "upgraded" @M$ side legal or not. And no factory recovery or disk imaging will help with that. If "no, not legal" than such old image will be just kind of activators that allow to use win7 "bytes" w/o license at all.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Major problem with a user (Message 1696186)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
new apps released
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
check if number of false positives decline


Sorry Raistmer not shor if your talking to me . but i'm not understanding what your asking me to do if you are talking to me. :)


It's just info relevant to whole this thread, it's not direct answer on your last post.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Major problem with a user (Message 1696077)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
new apps released
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
check if number of false positives decline
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1696060)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer

Even Microsoft wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like that, would they?

you tell us after this little experiment, perhaps.
Though it still can differ from case where activation required.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1696057)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Raistmer
The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.

Are you sure you loose the possibillity to reinstall W7 after you upgraded to W10?

As written, such upgrade voids prev OS license. Technically, reinstall surely possible, but that's not enough.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1695913)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Raistmer
The single thing that stops me from upgrading/reservation of upgrade is uncertainty in the future of Win10 successor and how it will be implemented over Win10.
As long as there is at least some probability that win10 will be mandatory updated to "Windows" at some point of time with month fee I will not risk to lose existing Win7 licenses.
But will install and use Win10 on new configs, w/o any upgrades.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : A lot of mysterious MB CPU BM error messages lately (Message 1695678)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Raistmer
Also, if those tasks ultimately finished and validated, it means your host definitely had damaged version of data for those tasks at some point of time and restart healed this.
Time to check host for overheating/stability.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1694870)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Raistmer
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/

The crux of it is this:

Do you want to continue as a Windows Insider and keep getting preview builds after 7/29?
Or do you want to upgrade your Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 system that has been getting Windows 10 Insider Preview builds to the 7/29 release and stop being an Insider?
“I want to continue as a Windows Insider!” If you want to continue as a Windows Insider past 7/29 there is nothing you need to do. You’re already opted in and receiving builds in the Fast or Slow ring depending upon your selection. This is prerelease software and is activated with a prerelease key. Each individual build will expire after a time, but you’ll continue to receive new builds so by the time an older prerelease build expires you’ll have received a new one. Since we’re continuing the Windows Insider Program you’ll be able to continue receiving builds and those builds will continue to be activated under the terms of the Windows Insider Program. We provide ISOs for these builds for recovery from any significant problems, but they are still pre-release software. As part of the program we’ll upgrade Insiders to what is for all intents and purposes the same build as what other customers will get on 7/29, but that will be just another build for Insiders, and those who stay in the program will simply get the next build after as well.

“I want to opt out of the Windows Insider Program on 7/29.” If you decide to opt-out of the program and upgrade to the 7/29 build you will be subject to exactly the same terms and conditions that govern the offer* that was extended to all Genuine Windows 7 and 8.1 customers. This is not a path to attain a license for Windows XP or Windows Vista systems. If your system upgraded from a Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license it will remain activated, but if not, you will be required to roll back to your previous OS version or acquire a new Windows 10 license. If you do not roll back or acquire a new license the build will eventually expire.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (98) Server Problems? (Message 1694090)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Raistmer
How powerful does it need to be? If 300000 computers running for years to provide the data, how can one single computer possibly handle that?

Our computers do most compute-intensive part of data reduction.
further analysis will require different "skills". Most important part is excellent IO capabilities, not raw computing power. That's why enormous amount of RAM required and best buses available in all route from CPU to data storage subsystem.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (98) Server Problems? (Message 1694062)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Raistmer
Those who don't feel the project is worthwhile should probably find another project more 'worthy' of their computing time. (More work units for the rest of us).


Big +1 if you don't belive in the project what the F##k you doing here in the 1st place ??


While I did ask to be pardoned for the potential blasphemy, do y'all really not like the question because of the potential answer?

(I had just watched Matt's recent video on the status of the NTPCkr, so it is a relevant question.)

Your question seemed to be "Are we looking for aliens or is this s social experiment?". Is that an accurate summary of what you were asking? If SETI is a social experiment. Then the guys in the lab are subjects as well. A lack of resources doesn't change the science of what is being done.
Just because you can't proceed to step two, right now, doesn't make step one irrelevant or not the science that you want to be done. It could take years before for what is done today to be of use. It could even span generations.

+10

and -10 to all "go away and save WUs for us" kinds of answers. That's disgusting attitude and damages relation to project.
Readers should keep in mind always that individual answers of participants doesn't reflect project staff or other participants attitude.

Currently we on "gathering data" stage. Hal900 explained that excellent enough to not reiterate.

And remember, there are no impudent questions, there are impudent answers.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (98) Server Problems? (Message 1693310)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Raistmer

https://youtu.be/jY5cQTKlYSs


Interesting who provided subs for that video?
SETI called "city","said" and number of over words... Looks like ET did subs themselves :P
20) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU tasks restarting at the beginning. (Message 1692867)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Raistmer
I am noticing that a couple of CUDA tasks are restarting in the Manager when starting up.

Meaning it gets to maybe 1 %, then jump back to either the beginning, or possibly something like 0.5 %.

What is the reason for this happening?


The way howlatest BOINC manager deal with completion %.
GPU task has ~10-20 s of initialization period when it doesn't report completion % back to BOINC. Old BOINC managers showed 0%, but new ones start to make guesses... and drop to zero when app reports back real progress after that init phase finishes.


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