1) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1295520) Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: The Compaq tower ID: 6692865 just started producing eomputation errors. This time I happened to be watching it and it started after the computer had been running for 1 day, 11 hours and 38 minutes. It turned the unit it was working on to computation error, went to the next one for about a minute, then turned it and then started going pretty rapidly from one unit to the next turning them to computation errors. I stopped it at 9 and rebooted. The Toshiba laptop ID: 6176446 I allowed to get to about 1 day and 10 hours and then exited BOINC to double check and make sure it is BOINC starting the problem and not just reacting to a failure in another program. I will leave that run for a day without BOINC running and report back then unless it fouls up before then. Wizard2468

2) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1295060) Posted 14 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: I have been focusing on the Toshiba laptop ID: 6176446. I uninstalled BOINC and deleted both BOINC program and application folders and looked for registry entries with regedit. I did not find anything but was not sure what I was looking for. Installed BOINC 6.10.60 and re-attached to the SETI@Home project. It reset the statistic tab, it now just shows 2 days of results, but did keep the number of units done for that particular computer at 53,XXX. Had 30 units go to computation error a few hours ago. Letting it go for a while, see what happens.

3) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1291385) Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Just had 37 computation errors on the Compaq tower ID: 6692865. I guess I will just have to live with this for a while. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

4) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1290999) Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: The Toshiba laptop ID: 6176446 just had a string of computation errors again after being on for about 2 days, so I just reset the project again. The Compaq tower ID: 6692865 is still functiong correctly but has not been on long enough for the problem to manifest; I had to restart it for other reasons. However, the Wi-Fi is still connecting at 150 Mbps as it should, so I am still hoping this one is fixed. I will continue to update as needed. Wizard2468

5) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1290306) Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Waited until I had processed all the work units on the Toshiba laptop ID: 6176446 and then reset the project. PROBLEM SOLVED!!! It has been running for 1 day and 18 hours now without any computation errors! Going to leave it run to about 2 or 3 days to make sure, then reboot every 2 days or so as I used to. Noticed it would have re-downloaded work units so I did not have to wait to reset the Compaq tower ID: 6692865. It had just acted up when it finished a work unit so I rebooted and then reset the SETI project. Work units were resent. Another problem I had, which I did not even associate with SETI or BOINC, has also disappeared. I have a Wi-Fi 802.11N 150Mps dongle and had only been connecting at 75 Mps. As soon as I reset SETI, I started connecting at 150 Mps again! So apparently SOLUTION: RESET PROJECT!!! I will update a time or two yet even if everything is now working properly and then only if a problem arises again. Thanks to everyone who helped me figure out this problem, it was just getting more and more frustrating! Glad to finally have this resolved! [Knock on Wood!!!] Have a Good One, All! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

6) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1290303) Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Did a disk clean on the Toshiba laptop ID: 6176446 and got the free space up to 12 GB but still did not help. Also defragged and still had the same problem. But see next post, believe found a solution. Wizard2468

7) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1288217) Posted 26 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Storms last night knocked out power before the time the computer was on reached the point that BOINC would have messed up so waiting for enough time to pass to have the problem again. How would I go about re-installing the SETI program, not the BOINC program? Under the "projects" tab would I use the reset project button, the detach button and then re-attach to SETI or is there another way to completely start SETI over again just for this particular computer [6692865]?

8) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287556) Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Just rebooted and when BOINC started up it showed the 3 computation errors mentioned in the previous post and 8 more as computation errors. I will upload these now. The transfers tab only shows the 3 work units finished from before the restart, not the 8 new computation errors. Wizard2468

9) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287552) Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: That did not fix the problem. It just started a new work unit after being on for 1 day 13 hours and it shows the completed unit as computation error, the next unit as computation error ad then started the next unit and it was running properly until I tried to copy the relevant messages from the messages tab so I could include them here and then it disconnected from the local host and everything went blank until I exited BOINC. BOINC will not restart. The messages did say something about "You may need to restart your computer" but I cannot remember what the others said, I thought I had them copied. If they reappear after I reboot I will paste them here. Next time I will try a screenshot as well as copying the relevant message lines. Wizard2468

10) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287276) Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Just did the rollback. No problems and did not lose the work units. I always did like this version much better, I really like having the "Messages" tab, the more info I have access to the better I like it. I had forgotten how nice that feature was. Thanks for the suggestion. I did do an uninstall of BOINC from the add/remove programs tool first. Now will see in a day or so how it goes. I will post updates as appropriate. Till then thanks to all for help. Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

11) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287204) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Doh! That's right, the SETI programs are automatically downloaded by the manager, you don't manually install them. Is it worth trying to save the present work units that have not been processed yet or better to just let it download new ones after the rollback? Wizard2468

12) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287140) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Thanks for the info. Now that I think about it, it does seem that it was after one of the 7.x.y versions this all started. No significant loss of data usefulness to SETI by rolling back versions? I was going to ask you about your opinion of Windows versions. Wow, didn't know one was as bad as WinCE [never had it but heard you winced every time you started it up.]. No wonder Microsoft is offering to update to win8 for only $40! I REALLY wondered why so cheap, not their style, IMHO. Wizard2468

13) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287127) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: There is a large text file there, but the only things I noted were a warning and an alert but those seem to have occurred when the update failed. The recent dates at the top of the list are: Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer Information 9/23/2012 5:59:41 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/23/2012 5:59:16 AM btwdins None 0 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/23/2012 5:59:05 AM Winlogon None 1001 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/23/2012 2:15:38 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/23/2012 2:15:33 AM btwdins None 0 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/23/2012 1:58:48 AM MPSampleSubmission None 5001 N/A WIZARDT2 Error 9/23/2012 1:58:47 AM MPSampleSubmission None 5000 N/A WIZARDT2 Warning 9/23/2012 1:50:34 AM MsiInstaller None 1001 Wizard WIZARDT2 Information 9/21/2012 2:06:04 PM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/21/2012 2:05:58 PM btwdins None 0 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/20/2012 1:17:52 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/20/2012 1:17:46 AM btwdins None 0 N/A WIZARDT2 Information 9/18/2012 10:59:10 PM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A I was looking more for sectors scanned, bad sectors, etc.. Wizard2468

14) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287116) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Yes, that 6.10.60 did run very well for a very long time. I usually do the same [hence still XP hahaha] but updated SETI immediately in case there was different/better/more detailed changes in the analysis of the data. I will probably try to uninstall BOINC, delete folders/files left and reinstall with that version. I will post results here. BTW, just looked and I do have the installation program for that version saved in my Programs folder. That's what I assumed with the log, no news is good news. Thanks again to all forthe help. Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

15) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287062) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: OK, I thought that was what I was looking at in the computer management program. In the tree at the left,I am under system tools - event viewer - system. There are not any entries under system tools - performance logs and alerts - counter logs, trace logs or alerts. It states there is a sample log under counter logs but I cannot seem to be able to open it. How do I open/find the windows system event log? Thank you for your help. Wizard2468

16) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287057) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: Yes, there was a period a few months ago when 2 or 3 new versions of SETI came out in a row and notices appeared in the BOINC manager that a new version was available. I always went to the web site and downloaded the new version and that was around the time problems started. I think that was why I put up with it for a while; I thought the multiple new versions were probably because of the problem. I save each program when I download it, so I have the various installation programs still on my hard drive. Should I revert to one of the earlier versions? Is any particular version the best for AMD processors? Will it let me go backwards without telling me I already have a newer version and that I should use that or will I have to uninstall and re-install BOINC? Wizard2468

17) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287014) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: CHKDSK just finished and the system rebooted after it was finished without any alerts or warnings. Is there somewhere you can read a log of the CHKDSK results? I looked under computer management but did not see it. Or is it the old "No news is good news" bit? Wizard2468

18) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1287005) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: No problem. The Compaq tower, the one that just messed up, is ID: 6692865 and is named wizardt2 [tower 2]. The Toshiba laptop that messes up but has very full hard drive is ID: 6176446 and is named WIZARDLAPTOP2. The Compaq laptop that is not having a problem is ID: 5738144 and is named wizardlaptop. I do defrag fairly often, especially since I have started having problems. ID: 6176446 does have too full of a hard drive to defrag properly, but ID: 6692865 has plenty of space for the defrag in the C: partition at 21% free on that partition, 128 GB in size and 27.69 GB free according to the defrag program. The second partition on that hard drive, D:, is 151 GB, has 110 GB free or 72%. There does not have to be updates waiting to be installed for the problem to appear, that really does not seem to be associated with it at all. The only thing that appears to be associated with the problem is the computer to run for over 1 day and a few hours without being rebooted. Once it has run this long, the next time it finishes a unit and starts a new unit the computation error messages start, other programs are effected and the problems noted earlier, such as problems closing programs and problems rebooting appear. Defrag said the C: drive or partition did not need to be defragged but I have just defragged it anyhow. ID: 6692865 has 3046 MB initial virtual memory paging file size and 6092 MB maximum virtual memory paging file size. One other thing that may be relevant is that I did use the Windows file and setting transfer wizard to transfer the info from the Toshiba laptop, ID: 6176446, to the reformatted hard drive I put in the tower, ID: 6692865, but both did work for several months before this problem started. But I did at first think maybe I had transferred a problem as well although it would have had to have been a delayed problem as both did work for quite some period of time. The defrag report, copied and pasted, is: Volume T2A (C:) Volume size = 128 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 100 GB Free space = 27.69 GB Percent free space = 21 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation = 2 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 221,233 Average file size = 642 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 4 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 2.97 GB Total fragments = 2 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 16,348 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 273 MB MFT record count = 238,104 Percent MFT in use = 85 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None I will run a scan on the hard drive on ID: 6692865 and post those results later when the check disk has finished running. If there is any other info or screen shots that would be helpful please let me know. Thank you for your time and effort. Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

19) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1286979) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: OK, the tower is messing up as I write this. It is a Compaq SR5703WM. I am running at less than half the page file history at 1.75 GB. It finished the work unit it was working on at 1 day and 5 hours, started the next unit and apparently ran it for 17 minutes and then put computation error, simply put computation error on the next unit with no time run or to completion and had 14 minutes on the next unit when I noticed the problem with 0% completed. The task manager was messed up, the tab for the 5 IE8 windows I had open did not show any text and when I tried to install the latest update was told it was not installed. Now the BOINC manager has disconnected from the local client and everything is gone. When you open the start button there is no text or icons, it is all blank. I am now going to reboot the tower. I had to exit the BOINC manager, which was difficult because the tabs did not work until I closed the window and reopened it, and close 2 IE8 windows to get things to work enough to reboot. The update reappeared so I am trying to install that now before I reboot. This time the updates were installed. When rebooted, BOINC came up fine and started running properly with only the 3 previously mentioned computation error work units; the 1 uploading unit and 30 ready to start work units are fine. I will upload it and the errors when I finish writing this. Oh, and not this time, but many times when it acts up and I reboot, the shutting down screen and saving your settings screen are small boxes instead of full screen as usual. I hope this info helps resolve this. Has anyone else had anything similar happen? Or am I the Lone Ranger? hahaha If you need any more info please let me know. Thank you again for your time, patience and understanding with this problem. Have a Good One! Love, Peace and Perception Wizard2468

20) Questions and Answers : Windows : All work units show "computation error" when computer is on for over 24 hours except ones that are "Task suspended at users request" (Message 1286918) Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Wizard2468 Post: BTW, I just realized that the units I have aborted are ones that never did start usng the CPU even after a couple of restarts. They would show running and the time run but the percent would never change and the CPU usage was 0. Wizard2468

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