Posts by Patrick L. Francis

1) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267729)
Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Well ageless, I'm not sure what to take from your replies.

1. While I am grateful for your efforts, you mentioned two ways to solve the issue that were not it.

2. You state that the source is not what I referenced, however, that is the source I retrieved the post from. Why you felt this was necessary is, well not worth my time.

3. If you knew the correct answer, why not simply point to your original post, if it was yours?

4. Why did you feel your final post was necessary?

I have no idea what your point is, but I certainly have more important things to do. I simply left the text for the answer that worked for me, under a relevant Question & Answer section on the forums, as that answer solved the issue, where no other was given.

Thanks to everyone else that tried. I will leave the pure install of the Windows Install Cleanup utility up for awhile longer, as I have noticed quite a few downloads so far.

cheers...

2) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267674)
Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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OK, I finally ran across the answer from a recommendation via the microsoft.answers forum which pointed to a solution on the Boinc.faq forum via mundayweb. I will copy and paste the final solution here so it is not lost, and in case anyone else runs across a similar problem, with a link at the end to the source.

Essentially it seems that all traces of the Boinc install needed to be removed from the system, which neither Microsoft "fix it" or the Windows Install Cleanup accomplished. There were a few registry entries and group entries that needed to be removed, with some referenching "Space Science Engineering" instead of just Boinc directly, which is why they did not appear when I searched for them in Regedit.

I completed all of the steps listed here for my particular system (Windows 7), and if you run across the same problem, and find that some steps fail, don't worry, as in the end it seems after running Windows "Fix It" and the Windows Install Cleanup, some of the steps where completed there, and did not have to be accomplished manually.

The pasted instructions are below, with a link at the end:

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First off you will have to remove your BOINC installation by going Start->Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs->BOINC->Remove. If by chance you get an error message that the MSI file cannot be found, or that the network resource is unavailable, see this FAQ for options around that.

Once you have uninstalled BOINC, you can delete the left-over BOINC executable directory. Default paths for it can be found in this FAQ. Leave the BOINC Data directory alone for now. We'll come to that in point 4.

All of the points below and some more things are included in a batch file that I made that will automate the process. It will still assume you uninstalled BOINC through Add/Remove Programs prior to you starting it. See Point 5 for details.
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After you uninstalled BOINC through Start->Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs, remnants of BOINC will still linger on your system. The following steps will remove these remnants completely. But we're starting with the first 3 steps that still allow you to reinstall BOINC 6 at a later date, or as a "clean solution" to get rid of possible account related bugs.

1. The User Accounts and Groups
To cleanup the newly created users and groups on anything else than Windows XP Home do the following:

(- Click on the 'Start' button).
- Right-click on 'My Computer' and select 'Manage'.
- Expand the 'Local Users and Groups' tree node.
- Click on the Groups tree node.
- Delete the 'boinc_admins' group.
- Delete the 'boinc_users' group.
- Delete the 'boinc_projects' group.
- Click on the Users tree node.
- Delete the 'boinc_master' user account.
- Delete the 'boinc_project' user account.

Windows XP Home, Vista Home and 7 Home don't have the Local Users and Groups tree node, so here we have to do it differently.

- Click on the 'Start' button.
- Click on 'All Programs'.
- Click on '(Desktop-)Accessories'.
- Right-click on 'Command Prompt'.
- Choose 'Run as administrator' and confirm.
- In the command prompt window that opened, type:
-- net user boinc_master /delete (press Enter).
-- net user boinc_project /delete (press Enter).
-- net localgroup boinc_admins /delete (press Enter).
-- net localgroup boinc_projects /delete (press Enter).
-- net localgroup boinc_users /delete (press Enter).

2. Cleanup User Rights Assignments
To cleanup the newly assigned user rights do the following (again, only for all Windows version but Windows XP Home):

- Click on the 'Start' button.
(- Click on 'Settings').
(- Click on 'Control Panel').
- Launch the 'Administrative Tools' control panel applet.
- Launch the 'Local Security Policy' application.
- Expand the 'Local Policies' tree node.
- Click on the 'User Rights Assignment' node.

Open each user right that contains a boinc_master or boinc_project entry, and remove those from the lists.

Windows XP Home, Windows Vista Home and Windows 7 Home do not have the Local Security Policy. It may be possible that you can remove the entries the installer made from the registry, but it's at this point unknown where it puts these entries in the registry.

(The developers haven't come back to me about this, so I really don't know what the installer does with those entries. Perhaps it silently drops them).


3. Cleanup Setup Registry Entries
To cleanup the newly created registry entries do the following:

- Launch 'regedit.exe' from the Start\Run menu item.
- Expand the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE' entry.
- Expand the 'Software' entry.
- Expand the 'Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley' entry.
- Delete the 'BOINC Setup' entry.
- Delete the 'Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley' key.

- Go back to the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE' entry.
- Expand the 'SYSTEM' entry.
- Expand the 'CurrentControlSet' entry.
- Expand the 'Services' entry.
- Delete the 'BOINC' entry, if it exists.

- Go back to the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE' entry.
- Expand the 'Software' entry.
- Expand the 'Microsoft' entry.
- Expand the 'Windows' entry.
- Expand the 'CurrentVersion' entry.
- Expand the 'Run' entry.
- Delete 'boincmgr', if it exists.
- Delete 'boinctray', if it exists.

- Expand the 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER' entry.
- Expand the 'Software' entry.
- Expand the 'Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley' entry.
- Delete the 'BOINC Manager' entry.
- Delete the 'BOINC Screensaver' entry.
- Delete the 'Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley' entry.


Exit regedit.

Now then, if you really want to get rid of BOINC completely, you will need to remove the Data directory as well.

If you're just going for a reinstall, move the directory with all contents to C:\Program Files\BOINC\, where the installer can pick it up again. Else...

4. The Data Directory
By default BOINC installed the data directory in:

Windows 2000/XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\
Windows Vista/Windows 7: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\

These directories can be hidden, so make sure you allow for Show hidden files and folders.

Delete this directory and all files and sub-directories.

That will clean BOINC off your system. You can now reboot to get rid of the remnants still in volatile memory.

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3) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267668)
Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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So far I have tried redownloading the latest version, and as McLeod suggested, several previous versions of the installer to no avail.

I have also posted a request for help on the Microsoft Answers forum. So far no one has replied, but there are probably not many aware of what Boinc is :)

4) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267393)
Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Had high hopes for your idea, but received the same error each time :/ I went all the way back through 2009 with no luck :( Heck of a thing, as I intentionally purchased an upgraded Nvidia card for this box... now it's just sitting idle :/
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267292)
Posted 3 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Thank you for the second suggestion, unfortunately it too was unsuccessful. The download location you provided was somewhat spammy, recommending the installation of additional spurious software, so i located a pure file from Microsoft and gave it a shot.

The program installed flawlessly, but did not list any Boinc Reference. However, there was an old MotoHelper App listed that I was able to get rid of :)

If anyone else would like a copy of the Windows Install Cleanup installation file, I will leave it Available Here for a few days, as it was difficult to find. It seems that Windows Fix It has replaced the Install Cleanup. They both seemed to work well, unfortunately they did not rectify the Boinc Installation Issue.

6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1267221)
Posted 3 Aug 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Microsoft Fix It removed references in the registry to Boinc, which I verified with Regedit, unfortunately the same error occurs during attempted installation. Also tried a fresh download of Boinc, resulting with the same error.
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Windows 7 Install Error (Message 1265969)
Posted 30 Jul 2012 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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When attempting to install the latest version of Boinc on a Windows 7 Box, I received the following error (image below)


Please advise :)

8) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054803)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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I have found this input very helpful, and thank everyone :)

It seems that to do what I originally wanted, which is to assign SETI and Orbit as, for lack of a better word "Primary" projects, and Einstien/MW as alternates for when either is down, simply isn't how the system is setup.

It's ok really, as I believe in all the projects. I simply believe most strongly in what SETI and Orbit are trying to do.

I only have nine systems with a few more on the way, so I'm not really contributing a great deal like the 'big crunchers,' I simply hope I'm making a difference, and wanted to direct more work to SETI and Orbit.

Thanks again! :)

9) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054795)
Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Patrick, resource sharing only applies to CPU time, over a very long term.


This helps me.. thank you :)

When i think of / thought of resource share, my interpretation was what proportion of resources each project could utilize. So, when i assign MW at 2%, and see it using 3 of my 4 cores, plus the GPU, I ask myself is that 2%? :)

Basically my goal was to simply use them as a failover for when SETI is down. I'm not going to remove them or anything, as they all need work, it just seems a little.. well.

Thanks for your help!
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054050)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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My apologies, I thought i said boinc project :)

Taking your advice to heart, I adjusted the resource settings to 44,44,10 & 2 respectively. I have added screen caps beneath the original here:

http://www.weathermodels.org/boinc/

Note the division of tasks running, even though the MW resource share was taken to "2." While it is said that changing deadlines can not increase resource share, it certainly seems to be doing so.

I have 5 quad windows 7 boxes running with the same configuration, and 4 linux boxes. Not really a big deal in the larger scheme of things, but definitely an interesting observation.

11) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1054032)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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Thank you both. :)

If I am understanding you correctly, a boinc project could take advantage of clueless people like me by requesting very short deadlines which would in affect increase their resource share. Even though in reality the deadlines are likely less important than they appear, since their projects are not time sensitive.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Advice Please (Message 1053941)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Patrick L. Francis
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I used to think I understood the idea of resource share, but have decided I am totally clueless.

Rather than posting screencaps in the forums, I have placed them here for easier viewing:

http://weathermodels.org/boinc/

Please notice that Milkyway@home has its resource share set to 10%, while SETI, orbit, and Einstein are each at 100%.

On the next screencap, please notice that 3 Milkyway tasks are running, with one Einstein.

The last screenshot shows that Einstein has the largest proportion of disk share, in second is Milkyway, with a tad left for SETI. Orbit hasn't sent out WUs for awhile.

So the question is, if resource share is set to 10% for Milkyway, and 100% for the others, while Einstein has the most WUs available, why is Milkyway hogging all of the work?





 
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