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(Message 987522)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Odan Post:
Responding to 2 at once, versatile eh :) Yes, that's right. Linear regs can be efficient if Vin is ratiometrically close to Vout. For instance I still use many linear regs for things like generating 3V3 from 5V at low currents, typically <100mA. In that case the 3.3/5 * 100% = 66%. Not wonderful but it is only 1.7V * 0.1A = 0.17 W dissipated at heat - easy to get rid of. The devices are very cheap, very simple, very reliable, and electrically very quiet. if you are designing a mains to DC supply you use a transformer to get the voltage into the regulator as low as you can for efficiency's sake & as high as you must to make it work reliably with varying input voltages - or indeed at all! Buck regulators are the primary step down regulator I use for all sorts of things: supplying microprocessors, displays, even complex microwave circuits. They certainly get more use than battery charging. As far as point of use regulation is concerned, I believe the Buck is the main contender. Off-line PSUs, like a PC power supply, use different topologies like "fly-back" and other more complex designs than a buck that use transformers, often for isolation, are very common. Interestingly (at least to me) most battery charging that I do or see is powered by mains power & would use something more complex than a buck. Again a good example would be the PSU for a notebook PC. |
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Electric kibble.....happy kitties again.
(Message 987458)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Odan Post: Read the thread by SciManStev where he in detail explains the issue: Was that a hint? :) |
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(Message 987456)
Posted 8 Apr 2010 by Odan Post: To convert from high to low Voltage modern computer circuits use: ROFL. BilBg, thanks for pointing people at explanation, it has helped people understand & please take note that what I say is not aimed at you & your helpful post so don't take offence but this is an example of how Wiki P can be amusing. I like the idea of using "ideal storage elements", in other words perfect transistors, capacitors and inductors that exhibit no resistance. If anybody has a draw full of these components I would love to take them off your hands! I think maybe I should update that SMPS item in Wikipedia to introduce a bit of real world to it. In case anybody is interested, there must be losses in the real world outside the head of whoever wrote that article :) There are resistances involved in inductors that carry large currents and also in capacitors and PCB tracks that likewise carry large currents. The resistances are small but significant. There are also losses in switches (ie transistors) and diodes. Cutting what could be 100,000 words to a few: switch mode power supplies (SMPS) range in efficiencies about 75% for a "bad one" to 95% for a good one. Looking at an example that you will all be familiar with, the PSU in all your PCs is a SMPS. It is the only really practical way to get large powers or decent efficiencies, in other words CHEAP: both to build and to run. If you look at the spec for your PSU you may be lucky enough to see an efficiency figure quoted - they often don't say. You will probably find it is approximately 80%. Just put your hand on this SMPS and feel the heat that is being generated. An 80% efficient 500W output PSU would require 625W input power - the difference of 125W is dissipated almost totally as heat. Some power is also lost in driving the PSU fan (unless you have a passively cooled one!) which is there primarily to remove the waste heat from the PSU...... I do like Wikipedia but it can be VERY misleading! The small point-of-use SMPS on a motherboard or GPU could be low to middle 90's. Ones I design usually come out 85% to 95% efficient depending on detailed requirement. All in all, SMPS allow DC to be treated in a similar way to AC & a transformer. The power out is the efficiency times the power input: Pout = Efficiency * Pin This does give MUCH better efficiencies than linear regulators especially where the output voltage is much lower than the input voltage. They also allow the output voltage to be higher than the input which is incredibly useful at times or for the polarity to be reversed. Isolation between the input & output can also be achieved, this is very useful (necessary even) in your PC power supply. Anyway, I'm starting to whitter off on one! If anyone is really interested I can point you at real manufacturers' IC datasheets and even free simulator software - that is for simulating/designing SMPS NOT flying a plane :) National Semiconductor, Texas Instruments and Linear Technology make most of the devices we use in SMPS. |
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50k credits!
(Message 986545)
Posted 4 Apr 2010 by Odan Post: just passed the 100k mark!! yipee - I wonder how long it will be to get to 200k - july the end of July? Dave, If you are having trouble with the hard sums :) sign up for BOINCstats & it will do them for you. The detailed stats page has a calculator to estimate when you will reach any target you specify. Start off here: http://boincstats.com Congrats on the milestone. |
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Unhappy kitties......
(Message 983695)
Posted 26 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: Most electricians I've talked to won't wire up a 30A breaker to 120v as I've been told there are no 30A outlets(receptacles) and It would be unsafe as a result, possible fire danger I've been told. Yeah, quite right. I've never seen them used domestically in the US (though maybe they are somewhere) but I have supplied & used them in industrial applications in the USA. Clumsy great beasts but they work well. |
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(Message 983641)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: I can see where you guys have so many power problems. Looks like Mark could have done with this 3kW:) No, the outlet isn't fused, the plug that goes in it is fused, all the plugs are fused. What I meant was we CAN get 3kW safely & easily out of a power strip. |
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(Message 983628)
Posted 25 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: I can see where you guys have so many power problems. One thing you are missing is that all our plugs have fuses in. It is almost impossible to get smoke out of a power strip here. The only reliable way to smoke one is to remove the fuses & replace with something handy like a section from a 6 inch nail - good old farmers' trick :) Much over 3kW & the fuse goes in the plug. The sort of scenario that Mark had is VERY rare here. BTW, can you get 3kW safely out of a power strip? |
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Panic Mode On (30) Server problems
(Message 979390)
Posted 16 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: I will therefore of course uninstall and then reinstall the OS on my computers, as well as the Boinc client. I think the best thing would be to try turning your monitor upside down, unless it is a CRT cos the colours would go funny then. This will hopefully let the photons that are blocking your uploads drain away. Let me know how it goes. It hasn't worked for me or anybody else I know but I'm sure it will work for you. |
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Stopped Requesting Tasks
(Message 976810)
Posted 8 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: You don't have any tasks suspended do you? |
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BOINC needs a overhaul
(Message 975050)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Odan Post: Thank you Richard for your rational discussion of the matter. I think someone has been at the catnip :) |
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BOINC needs a overhaul
(Message 974864)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Odan Post: Excellent link, Odan. Loved the read and I think it aptly applies here. Glad you liked it. Do browse around his site when you have time. Much wisdom & humor there. |
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BOINC needs a overhaul
(Message 974857)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Odan Post: Slightly off topic but I feel I have to share this with you. It is always very tempting during a software development project, especially an indefinitely long one like BOINC that is always trying to keep up with moving goals, to reach a point where someone says "hey, this code is a mess, it is bloated & patched & ugly & inefficient". The following thought is usually "I know, let's start again & do it properly" Several months down the line of "doing it properly" the team usually feels like holding hands and all jumping off a cliff together. They have gradually realised that the new improved version has lots of new bugs & even more frustratingly old & long ago fixed bugs start to surface. I know this, been there, done it, worn out the teashirt & then done it again. I never said I wasn't stupid :) Here is a link to an old hand at this who has put it rather well: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html Anyone involved in professional software development or just interested in the process would do well to browse around Joel's amusing & thought provoking website. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all is perfect with BOINC & SETI. I just think it is very good & achieves its aims amazingly well. |
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Manual 'branding' for stock Seti apps ?
(Message 968108)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Odan Post: Richard, I could always edit my post out & try again on Saturday if that would make you happy :) It does sound as easy as I hoped it would be. Never mind, eh? I did like your comment about stopping Raistmer and playing with autokill! |
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Manual 'branding' for stock Seti apps ?
(Message 968074)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Odan Post: I don't remember this being discussed but it probably has: Couldn't SETI just not issue VLAR/VHAR WUs to CUDA & keep them for CPU? I don't know enough about the details of how the back end works but rather ramble on for a couple of pages I'll leave it at that. Heaven forbid that anyone think I am suggesting anything time consuming for the already over-busy guys at Berkley to do! It would get over one of the reasons to re-brand but not the BOINC confusion with 2 different apps running the same WUs on the same machine leading to a dearth of GPU WUs. |
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(Message 968072)
Posted 4 Feb 2010 by Odan Post: [unhelpful comment] Gosh, screensaver! I'd forgotten about the SETI screensaver. I used to run one of those back in the dim & distant past. [/unhelpful comment] |
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(Message 966435)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Odan Post: Oz, Excuse me for being pedantic but it is "BOINC Manager" that is giving you the messages. BOINC sounds like it is running fine underneath it's just the app that allows you to interact with BOINC, ie Manager, that has problems. As Frosted suggests, Reschedule can trigger this. What you should be able to do to re-connect to the client is select "Advanced" then "Select Computer...". When the box comes up prompting for Host Name & Password, just leave them blank & click "OK". You should find it re-connects, mine do :) Good luck. |
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What occuring with my est times??
(Message 965484)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Odan Post: Ok, who am I talking to? I was teasing Dan about the screenshot he posted. Took me a minute to figure out he was from GB and his days and months are backward. It's almost as bad as all those useless Us you guys stick into every other word! :-) Sorry Perryjay, my bad jumping in. Nothing wrong with you guys over there, how's it go.... oh yes! Some of my best friends are American :} |
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(Message 965483)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Odan Post: Everybody knows you should be using the ISO 8601 date format YYYY-MM-DD :p Its a great way to start file names if you want an easy way to sort them into a date order - I do actually use it :} Both the ISO & British date orders make sense to me but I have never seen sense in the mixed up US date order. But if using it makes you happy ........ |
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(Message 965336)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Odan Post: There is nothing quite like a good banger barbied in the wilds - ahhh..... And to perryjay: I resent being called "English". I am Welsh & proud of it :} You may call me British but please not English! Don't get me started on the totally illogical, messed-up way you Americans write dates! |
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(Message 965324)
Posted 22 Jan 2010 by Odan Post: Kitties... the final frontier. Are these the voyages of the starship Nehi under captain Sattler? |
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