1. If you all had set your work creche to 10 day then you would be still crunching right now because i am i have plenty of work units why because i think about the number of outrages seti has so i planned.

Yes, this is known. The error message is more informational than a true error. The WU will probably complete with no problem. By going into hibernation your system just forces the programs to go on hold but doesn't shut them down. This message is generated because the Boinc client is prevented from communicating with the project application for more than 30 seconds as it is expected to be able to do.

I don't remember the limit of the number of messages but anyway the content of that tab will be cleared once Boinc is closed and then reopened.

Seti would sent out emails in Classic when the Application version changed. It didn't then have a Boinc Manager or Core Client. I haven't seen notes or anything else telling member to update and I think they should do something. Hopefully, when 5.01 (or some number) comes out the Major Version change will "Require" the users to upgrade since major version 4 core clients will no longer be able to get work, and then the users will ask "why can't I get work", or "why am I getting this message about "you are using major version 4 and need to upgrade to version 5 clients".

After problems with the upgrade to version 4.14, the devs furiously churned out one beta client after another, and if I remember correctly it only took them about a week to get up to 4.19. All versions prior to and including 4.19 do NOT use a GUI (graphical user interface). All versions after it DO contain the option of a GUI. They probably keep 4.19 around as an option to allow US a choice. Then Starting with 4.35 JM7 (John Mcleod 7) developed and implemented the "New Scheduler" which makes choices for us as to what to crunch next, how much work to get, When to get new work, and when to report it.

I hope this history helps some understand.

tony

It may well be like myself (a few weeks ago) that they do not know that there is a "better" version available to them.
Please do not "damn" people out of ignorance.
They are not all dedicated crunchers like you & I!

Regards,
Graeme Murphy.
www.setiuk.com

Better version than 4.13? Holy cow where have you been? The last of the "best" versions was 4.19 and at that point in time the BOINC devs should have asked the projects to alter the min required release to 4.19 to overcome the severe problems with the consequences of 4.13 not being able to fully download a file. Well at least 2 months later.

The date stamp on the BOINC V4.13 on my system shows 29 Oct 2004. The problems with 4.13 were quickly highlighted on Predictor and we went through a few versions before 4.19 was found to be a very stable release (date stamp 27 Jan 05). This was the recommended release (and still is on some projects) for quite a while until 4.25 and the BOINC Manager came along (date stamp 21 March 05). Recently V4.45 (date stamp 10 June 05) became the recommended version. I think there has been sufficient time for people to have upgraded from 4.13 to at least 4.19 by now.

If folks don't have 4.19 and want it all they need to do is ask the question and a heap of people can point them in the right direction to find it.

DAMN YOU PEOPLE USING BOINC 4.13.

I'm lucky enough not to have been adversely affected just yet but this host http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=1184839 came pretty close. Check out the wu's and notice that each wu has at least 1 download error and each of those is due to a host running 4.13!

I can't wait for the major version change to take place, but then beta is only at 4.71 so we have a while to go.

Live long and crunch.

While I agree in principle that people shouldn't use older versions of S@H, if only to ensure accuracy of compared results, I must ask the following questions:

Where were the notifications that newer versions are available?

Where are the big banners on the home page?

I even remember a time when we used to get emails telling us when new versions were released.

Not everyone has the time or inclination to check for new versions, especially those people on dial-up, and when you consider that the latest version is 6.34Mb, for those people on dialup that can be a chunk of time and money.

I also find myself questioning how the updates are handled. According to my BOINC Manager, I'm running version 4.25. However, according to the downloads page at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php, the latest version is 4.45 and the previous version is 4.19 - would anyone care to comment??????

(And before you ask, YES, I'll be upgrading in the next few minutes.)

Now, back to finding ET.......................