Posts by Kirsten

1) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Summer Competition for our team members - so join us (Message 589002)
Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Our team is BOINC@Denmark. Most members are Danish, but actually there are members from about nine or ten countries. Our website is in English and Danish.

We have a couple of competitions every year. It is all about which member makes the largest progress in recent average credit during a period of four weeks.

We have just started our Summer Competition June 18. It runs till July 15 and any member joining our team before then has the possibility of winning products from the SETI@home store.

Read more about the competition on the website front page and in this forum thread

So join the BOINC@Denmark team now. The sooner you join the team the better are your chances of winning the comp.

See the Top20 comp stats as of today. They are based on our hourly updated SETI stats. They again are based on the team's email list in xml format.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : http internal error w AND w/o app_info enabled (Message 574284)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
Post:
Quoting my own post:


It remains to be seen if the new work - all version 5.15, of course - will be crunched with the optimized app although it is not enabled. I use BOINC development version 5.9.11 (which is a real improvement IMO).


Until further both versions (5.15 and 5.17) are crunched with the opt. app.

From client_state.xml:

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>515</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<file_ref>
<file_name>KWSN_2.2B_SSE_Ben-Joe.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>517</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<file_ref>
<file_name>KWSN_2.2B_SSE_Ben-Joe.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

3) Message boards : Number crunching : http internal error w AND w/o app_info enabled (Message 574272)
Posted 23 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
Post:
Inconclusive, but I think panic over.

I got work this time on an old v5.3.12.tx36 - no errors, no ghosts, app_info disabled.

Earlier 22 May 2007 21:49:55 UTC 'workround' download was on v5.8.15

Every thing else I've tried gives 'no work from project' - fair enough in the circumstances, but unhelpful for testing.


In spite of the many earlier messages about internal server error, app_info disabled, I got loads and loads of new work today May 23rd at appr. 8:45 UTC -2.

Just for a testing purpose it remains to be seen if the new work - all version 5.15 - will be crunched with the optimized app although it is not enabled. I use BOINC development version 5.9.11 (which is a real improvement IMO).
4) Message boards : Number crunching : http internal error w AND w/o app_info enabled (Message 574020)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
Post:
Inconclusive, but I think panic over.

I got work this time on an old v5.3.12.tx36 - no errors, no ghosts, app_info disabled.

Earlier 22 May 2007 21:49:55 UTC 'workround' download was on v5.8.15

Every thing else I've tried gives 'no work from project' - fair enough in the circumstances, but unhelpful for testing.


Brian's info about the http internal error not always being serious eased my concerns.

I will test again tomorrow (Europe time). Maybe the load on the servers is lightened till then.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : http internal error w AND w/o app_info enabled (Message 573987)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Now I get the internal error message all the time. Whether the app_info.xml is enabled or not.


An internal server error is a server-based error. It can happen at any time for any client platform. They know they are getting internal server errors. The only thing that is of large consequence right now is if you are on an anonymous platform, the http internal server error message is associated with your system being assigned a result, but you never receive the result.

In other words, if you don't have an app_info.xml and you get the error, don't worry about it. It simply means that your request could not be fulfilled at that time.


Thank you for the info. I now see, that there was only created ghosts when the optimized app was enabled. So I better disable the opt. app, then.

Edit: ghosts created appr. 22:28 UTC and my update with opt. app. enabled at 00:28 -2 UTC.


6) Message boards : Number crunching : http internal error w AND w/o app_info enabled (Message 573966)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Now I get the internal error message all the time. Whether the app_info.xml is enabled or not.

I have WU's that should be crunched either by version 5.17 or 5.15, though.

Start messages *with* the optimized app enabled

23-05-2007 00:19:43||Starting BOINC client version 5.9.11 for windows_intelx86
23-05-2007 00:19:43||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Data directory: C:\\Programmer\\BOINC
23-05-2007 00:19:43|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ [x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0]
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Processor features: fpu tsc sse 3dnow mmx
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Memory: 1023.48 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Disk: 37.27 GB total, 11.86 GB free
23-05-2007 00:19:43|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2392867; location: home; project prefs: default
23-05-2007 00:19:43||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-05-22 06:13:37)
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Host location: home
23-05-2007 00:19:43||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.48MB
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1023.48MB
23-05-2007 00:19:43||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
23-05-2007 00:19:43|SETI@home|Restarting task 27fe05aa.20439.11154.598568.3.13_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 517
23-05-2007 00:24:20|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
23-05-2007 00:24:20|SETI@home|Requesting 719759 seconds of new work
23-05-2007 00:25:30|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
23-05-2007 00:25:30|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
23-05-2007 00:25:30|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed
23-05-2007 00:26:30|SETI@home|Fetching scheduler list
23-05-2007 00:26:35|SETI@home|Master file download succeeded
23-05-2007 00:26:40|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
23-05-2007 00:26:40|SETI@home|Requesting 719911 seconds of new work
23-05-2007 00:26:45|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error

Start messages *without* app_info.xml

22-05-2007 23:24:54||Starting BOINC client version 5.9.11 for windows_intelx86
22-05-2007 23:24:54||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Data directory: C:\\Programmer\\BOINC
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ [x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0]
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Processor features: fpu tsc sse 3dnow mmx
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Memory: 1023.48 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Disk: 37.27 GB total, 11.86 GB free
22-05-2007 23:24:54|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2392867; location: home; project prefs: default
22-05-2007 23:24:54||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2007-05-22 06:13:37)
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Host location: home
22-05-2007 23:24:54||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1023.48MB
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1023.48MB
22-05-2007 23:24:54||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
22-05-2007 23:24:54|SETI@home|Restarting task 27fe05aa.20439.11154.598568.3.13_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 517
22-05-2007 23:25:14|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
22-05-2007 23:25:14|SETI@home|Requesting 714745 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 completed tasks
22-05-2007 23:28:00|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
22-05-2007 23:28:00|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 1 hr 36 min 52 sec
22-05-2007 23:28:00|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed

It seems there was only created a ghost WU in the last case.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : My 2 cents worth on the whole mess.........to the Seti staff. (Message 573675)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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My 2 cents:

22.05.2007 13:58:16|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error


The above error message shows when we are using an optimized application or a non-standard platform.

You have hidden your computers so I cannot tell what is the cause in your case.
8) Message boards : Technical News : Fiber channel woes, Chicken App, etc. (May 21 2007) (Message 573645)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
Post:


Edit: As a test I try to download work *with* the Chicken appplication enabled. Until further I have not recieved any error message.

Afraid not. Just tested with canary 1883631: got

SETI@home 22/05/2007 11:30:02 Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed: error 500

and a ghost. (ignore time in log - clock's half-an-hour slow on that Win 98SE machine)


I have not got any serious error msg yet and no ghost either, just a minor error IMO

22-05-2007 12:59:00|SETI@home|Requesting 677746 seconds of new work
22-05-2007 13:02:11||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
22-05-2007 13:02:11|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
22-05-2007 13:02:11|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 1 hr 35 min 4 sec
22-05-2007 13:02:11|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed
22-05-2007 13:02:12||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

Edit: The error msg came now 20 minutes later:

2007-05-22 13:24:38 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error

but no ghost.

9) Message boards : Technical News : Fiber channel woes, Chicken App, etc. (May 21 2007) (Message 573634)
Posted 22 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Previously downloaded tasks (while the opt. app was disabled) would allegedly use stock app version 5.15 (with the opt. app enabled) for crunching.

Now all of a sudden my task window informs they will be crunched with version 5.17 and I get this message

22-05-2007 12:41:54|SETI@home|Restarting task 04mr05ab.17213.29712.503418.3.251_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 517

Maybe this is the platform fix we have been waiting for.

Edit: As a test I try to download work *with* the Chicken appplication enabled. Until further I have not recieved any error message, but neither more work due to this

22-05-2007 13:02:12||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down, but that is not an error message.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : We've solved yesterday's problem and we're back up. (Message 573086)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Better than nothing, of course.



Well, that's a matter of opinion of course, I'd rather crunch and shut up than throw blame around...



You might have continued reading to learn that my opinion is very close to yours:

I wrote:

Well, the message boards are back up, so we can lament in unison. Better than nothing, of course.

meaning that the message boards are up is an improvement

I would have preferred that the server problems had been resolved,

I do not see that I am throwing blame around, but to cut in a post so it fits ones purpose is very bad forum behaviour IMO...
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Closed (Message 572883)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Bad old error message

21-05-2007 18:24:05|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error

is back although I do not ask for new work and have deactivated the optimized application.

Panic mode is certainly ON.
12) Message boards : Technical News : Fast One (May 16 2007) (Message 572877)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Bad old error message back (and I am not using optimization)

21-05-2007 18:21:19|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
21-05-2007 18:21:19|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
21-05-2007 18:24:05|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
21-05-2007 18:24:05|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
21-05-2007 18:24:05|SETI@home|Reason: scheduler request failed


Actually, I *was* asking for new work and meant to report completed tasks.

Phew...
13) Message boards : Number crunching : We've solved yesterday's problem and we're back up. (Message 572866)
Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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the front page news tell the SETI community.

The servers are not back up in this part of the world. (Denmark)

Well, the message boards are back up, so we can lament in unison. Better than nothing, of course. I would have preferred that the server problems had been resolved, so I should not again see this error message

21-05-2007 18:12:52|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error.

I am not using optimization and I have set BOINC not to ask for new work.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : S@H server out of work (Message 572221)
Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Well, one must include the panic factor as well.

As a matter of fact I increased my cache several days for a short time, until I realised that I was panicking and then reduced the cache.

As a result of the panic attack my cache is larger than usual, though. [blush]
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Calling all Team Captains (Message 572209)
Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Advise to team captains. I assure you it is worth the trouble to follow my example, as it benefits the team (credits) and ease team member frustrations.

In my guidance to BOINC@Denmark's team members, I have more or less translated Richard Hazelgrove's original recipe into Danish.

I offer two solutions, though:

1) a rather easy one, that simply deactivates the optimized application and

2) a more complicated one, according to Richard's recipe made a little more user friendly.

In my original page on optimization, I warn people that they should not optimize unless they know what they are doing and that everything they do is at their own risk.

(IMO it is more important that SETI members feel safe and confident while they are crunching for the benefit of the project than to talk people into something they do not fully understand just to satisfy their founder's (my) ambitions on behalf of the team.)

I have also added two rather detailed explanations in the forum about the two IMO major error messages, namely the

1. HTTP internal server error and the
2. Incomplete request received.

Furthermore, I very early in The Biggest SETI Outage Ever recommended alternative BOINC projects to switch to.

It is all about the team members' temperament whether they do one or the other thing.

For my team the above has paid off, as the team has increased its RAC fast.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD Seems working now... (Message 572155)
Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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I have moved the very off topic subjects on TVs and bulbs etc. to Cafe SETI.

I hope the off topic posters think this moderation is okay.
17) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Plasma TVs and bulbs (Message 572152)
Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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I have moved some very much off topic posts from the thread UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD PROBLEMS - READ FIRST...

Sorry guys, but apparently your posts annoyed some people (and me too BTW). It is not a big deal and I hope you understand the moderation.

18) Message boards : Technical News : Fast One (May 16 2007) (Message 572031)
Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Keep getting error messages like this group:

5/19/2007 3:47:59 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error
[snip]

I have shutdown and restarted Boinc and still get these messages.



If you are running KWSN's optimized apps, then read in this thread: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39531. If you have already followed the instructions around app_info.xml and have got work, then you might consider using the command "No new work".
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Ghost WU issue (and some talk about deadlines) (Message 571122)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Recipe:

Rename app_info.xml so it won't be recognised
Restart BOINC (service)
Update SETI - may not get through first time, but keep trying
Restore app_info.xml to original name
Wait until all transfers have finished
Restart BOINC (service)



To all Danes: You will find the above recipe in Danish, a little modified though, in my forum thread HTTP internal server error.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Ghost WU issue (and some talk about deadlines) (Message 571113)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Kirsten
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Basically, it looks like the recent server code edit has a problem with platforms as a whole, not just with "anonymous" ones.

HTH,
Simon.


Hi Simon,

Maybe you shold report your important observtions in Eric Korpela's blog You can tuna fish, but you can't tune a TCP

or make a link there to this post?



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