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21) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : After updating to the latest Omega driver, only one GPU core is doing work (Message 1628326)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile Ageless
Check the contents of the cc_config.xml file in the data directory (default at c:\programdata\boinc\), and else post those contents here.
22) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : FreeNas 9.2 (Message 1627732)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile Ageless
Why would you want to run BOINC and Seti on a NAS? They normally have very low yield CPUs, minimal RAM and running anything power using on them will break their attention away from what they should be doing: giving you a network attached storage that's always ready to take on data, or supply it.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : Serious BOINC Problem???? (Message 1627461)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile Ageless
When I now click on SETI, the left-hand column changes to the one for SETI. HOWEVER, it says NNT, which I did not set for SETI. But SETI is asking for new tasks.

The button shows the option you have, not the state that it is in. When you see "No new tasks" it's in the state of "Allow new tasks". Just as that you will see "Suspend", because it is in the state of "Resume". So it is normal that you will have Seti ask for work when it shows the "NNT" button.

If I reset SETI to "Allow New Tasks", Einstein is also changed to Allow in the display when I click on Einstein. That is not correct.

I suspect what is happening is what David is saying, despite you saying it isn't. In 7.0 BOINC still coloured the whole field a uniform value, I think all blue. Possibly that 7.2 did that as well. At least 7.4 has the alternating white and brown (or light grey) bars back. When your Windows colour scheme matches the background colour of these 7.0 and 7.2 fields, it's difficult to see if you selected just one or more than one project.

The easiest way to test is to exit BOINC & restart it. Then choose one project only and do the changes.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Move Boinc & Seti to new partition.... (Message 1626894)
Posted 18 days ago by Profile Ageless
Because this drive hold BOINC, Lunatics also runs off of this drive, and the total bytes written is approx. 3.98TB; while the OS drive is at approx. 10.53TB.

You have 3.98 terabyte of data for BOINC, for Seti? Doesn't that mean that you're about the only one wingman of all of us?
And what kind of bloat OS is it that you run that uses 10.53 terabyte of space? How long does installing it take and what do you install it off of? Must have a super high compression rate if from an optical disc.

Now, both 4 and 12TB SSDs are available out there, in servers mostly, but at $2,500 and $48,000 they're a bit overkill to run Seti off of. Although, if you want overkill, why not immediately go for the 44TB at $131,000?

;-)
25) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : ATi HD 3450 Mobility RADEON? (Message 1626419)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile Ageless
The HD3450 does not have OpenCL support.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (94) Server Problems? (Message 1626262)
Posted 20 days ago by Profile Ageless
Great, do I finally have an AP, is it one which runs for 9 seconds. The MB that ran before it crashed the videocard driver and hung there for over an hour. So I had rebooted the system to cure that, before running the AP. And then it turns out it isn't a full one. My luck. :(
27) Message boards : Number crunching : HDD Questions For The Elite - [PROBLEM RETURNED] (Message 1625787)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile Ageless
With all of the CD RWs and DVD RWs that I've used so far, I found that after a while the CD laser stops working, which can cause all kinds of weird behaviour on start up. In my present DVD RW the CD laser has also stopped working, so I can't use any CDs in it. But since it still reads DVDs without a problem, I see no need to change it.

It could read all 5 of the Far Cry 4 DVDs. I will assume it will be able to read however many DVDs GTA V will throw at me. And if not, that's then when I will exchange it. I only use it for reading of game DVDs anyway. With over 2TB of drive space in my PC, I hardly see a reason to uninstall games these days, while any other data (music, films and series) gets sent to the NAS, which at 4.5TB is too big to backup anyway.

But Rick, if you only have the problem at startup, you may want to try to hibernate the computer instead of shutting it down. Then all data in memory gets written to the hard drive, before the computer powers down. This means that Windows doesn't have to seek for drives and drivers and such, the next time it'll just start up from where you left off.

Mind, the other option is sleep, but that saves all data to memory and leaves minimal power on. If power goes here, you have to restart from new. With hibernate you can even take the computer apart (done that) and it won't break the quicker startup.
28) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issues with Boinc 7.4.27 - GPU & ASIC (Message 1625722)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile Ageless
For future reference, do know this isn't a BOINC problem but one of your operating system / Windows Installer.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2564571 writes:
This can occur if Windows Installer Logging is enabled, but the Windows Installer engine cannot properly write the uninstallation log file. This condition can occur if the Windows Installer's application heap becomes freed and thus loses the information on where to store the log file. When this occurs, Windows Installer attempts to write to the location 'C:\Windows\System32' and addresses it as a file. Proper behavior would be to write to the following location and file name: 'C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Temp\MSIxxxxxx.log'.

WORKAROUND
To work around this issue, stop and restart the Explorer.exe process using Task Manager.
29) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Frozen (Message 1625344)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile Ageless
Then abort it. It's most probably already run by other computers. Check its outcome in your task list.
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (94) Server Problems? (Message 1625343)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile Ageless
No, It's constantly getting tasks abandoned, that happens if an earlier scheduler contact gets through after a later one, ie out of sequence,
It's eithier got a very poor ISP, or some sort of backup software that restores Boinc,
But it restores a client_state.xml with an earlier <rpc_seqno>, The scheduler will mark all those tasks abandoned,
If you were able to see the result from those abandoned tasks, you'll probably find that host is still crunching them.

Still, a couple more weird ones:

3897406272 1670136558 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:21 UTC 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:31 UTC Timed out - no response 3897406279 1670136559 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:21 UTC 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:31 UTC Timed out - no response

A deadline of 10 seconds?

Created 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:19 UTC Sent 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:21 UTC Report deadline 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:31 UTC Created 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:19 UTC Sent 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:21 UTC Report deadline 8 Jan 2015, 6:12:31 UTC

Although, last night I saw him have several of these timed out tasks with 4 minute 27 second deadlines.
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (94) Server Problems? (Message 1625168)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
With enough of these guys around there's plenty for us small fish to be had. I was wondering why I had a lot of _2 and _3 work. That host there.

Either it's the ultimate form of cherry picking, or he's doing something else unexplainable. ;-)
32) Questions and Answers : Windows : Won't get new tasks (Message 1625110)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
Mark Sattler emailed the admins and got this answer back from them:
Mark Sattler wrote:
Matt has explained to me that the AP database is not fully healed, and automated processes are working in the background to complete repairs. It may be some weeks yet before this has been completed.

So, that is the reason that the AP assimilators have been offline, and the AP waiting for assimilation queue has been growing. Since that work has to be stored temporarily until assimilation can commence, that storage space has filled up, and that is the primary reason that the AP splitters are working so slowly... nowhere to go with the work.

They are going to increase the disk space for storing AP work, and that should allow the AP splitters to get back up to speed again, hopefully soon.

Richard Haselgrove wrote:
Since MB work occupies the same fanout directories as AP work, that will affect MB splitting as well. But at least we can crack on with returning MB work for assimilation, and thus recycle the limited space available.
source post 1, source post 2
33) Questions and Answers : Windows : Issues with Boinc 7.4.27 - GPU & ASIC (Message 1625104)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
Would be nice if you checked what I wrote here. I'll repost below and add one condition I forgot in my original post.
Then is it a coincidence that I haven't been able to get GPU specific tasks for a while?

There are no "GPU specific" tasks. All tasks, be it Multibeam v7 or Astropulse v7 will sit waiting in the feeder until a computer comes knocking asking for work for "a GPU", "a CPU" or both at the same time. Work then gets appointed to that computer according to which hardware resource got there first.

Which means that if you haven't had work for your GPU in a while now, you'll have to start looking closer to home first:
- Are your project preferences still set so your GPU can ask for work? Do check that you're on the right location (default, home, school, work).
- In BOINC Manager, is the Activity->GPU option set so the GPU can run (always or based on preferences)?
- In BOINC Manager, is any work still registered to the GPU set to "Suspend"?
-- Tasks tab, check that the button "Show Active Tasks" is showing. If "Show All Tasks is showing, click this. The button shows the option you have, not the state it is in.
-- Any task possibly showing status "Suspended by user", click it, then click the "Resume" button. Again, the Suspend/Resume button shows the option you have, not the state it is in.
- When BOINC asks Seti for work, does it do so only for the CPU or also for the GPU? You can add more elaborate messages to the Event Log by enabling the <sched_op_debug> flag from Advanced->Event Log Diagnostic Flags. Checking it and then clicking OK will make that it's used immediately. The Event Log (CTRL+SHIFT+E) will then show work request values per hardware instance. You can post a log with that for some of us to trawl through.

Additionally, when you last installed BOINC, you didn't by chance install it as a service? When installed as a service BOINC is not able to use the GPU under Windows, because Windows separates the drivers from the user accounts.

As for your ASIC Miner, http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/ can use that.
Apropos, according to your computers list, you're using BOINC 7.4.36
34) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : 2: runaway loop? and boincmgr passwords (Message 1624953)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
Lately, SETI jobs take from 2-8 hours of CPU time, the currently active process is over 90 hours. Which is still quite a bit less than the climate prediction jobs I get. But is it possible that this has run past some loop exit condition accidentally, and now it will never end? How long should I let it run?

There are two main sorts of tasks available at Seti, one is the Multibeam tasks, which run anywhere from mere seconds to those 8 hours you mention, and the second is Astropulse, which runs from mere seconds to multi-tens-of-hours on a CPU.

You had one of the latter. An Astropulse v7.
They're a broadband way of looking for ET, whereas Multibeam is narrow band.
More on the differences between the two, at the AP FAQ and How Seti@Home works.

Second.

You added BOINC from Berkeley or from repository? The latter I think, seeing how it's "7.2.0", unless you built it yourself?
Did you follow http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Gentoo on that? (Do read the Optional setup hints)
35) Questions and Answers : Windows : Won't get new tasks (Message 1624949)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
Then is it a coincidence that I haven't been able to get GPU specific tasks for a while?

There are no "GPU specific" tasks. All tasks, be it Multibeam v7 or Astropulse v7 will sit waiting in the feeder until a computer comes knocking asking for work for "a GPU", "a CPU" or both at the same time. Work then gets appointed to that computer according to which hardware resource got there first.

Which means that if you haven't had work for your GPU in a while now, you'll have to start looking closer to home first:
- Are your project preferences still set so your GPU can ask for work? Do check that you're on the right location (default, home, school, work).
- In BOINC Manager, is the Activity->GPU option set so the GPU can run (always or based on preferences)?
- In BOINC Manager, is any work still registered to the GPU set to "Suspend"?
-- Tasks tab, check that the button "Show Active Tasks" is showing. If "Show All Tasks is showing, click this. The button shows the option you have, not the state it is in.
-- Any task possibly showing status "Suspended by user", click it, then click the "Resume" button. Again, the Suspend/Resume button shows the option you have, not the state it is in.
- When BOINC asks Seti for work, does it do so only for the CPU or also for the GPU? You can add more elaborate messages to the Event Log by enabling the <sched_op_debug> flag from Advanced->Event Log Diagnostic Flags. Checking it and then clicking OK will make that it's used immediately. The Event Log (CTRL+SHIFT+E) will then show work request values per hardware instance. You can post a log with that for some of us to trawl through.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : 7.4.27 (Message 1624454)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile Ageless
As said, BOINC has very little to do with how much heat is generated. It's the project science applications that do all that work. And since they didn't change in between 7.4.27 and 7.4.36, the answer is nowt.
37) Questions and Answers : Getting started : could somebody explain what am i doing? (Message 1623776)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile Ageless
Well thanx for the replay, but the 90& of the question is still unanswered...

Credit and RAC (recent average credit, thus not a percentage!) are explained in the User Wiki at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Computation_credit
38) Message boards : Number crunching : 7.4.27 (Message 1622358)
Posted 28 days ago by Profile Ageless
The current BOINC installer is pretty smart.

The BOINC Installer isn't really that smart. All it does is detect if the BOINC client and manager are running, and if so, tell them to stop doing so. The BOINC client is what will gracefully stop the work in progress and save any lingering data from memory to disk in the separate BOINC Data directory.

Installing a BOINC over a previous BOINC will invoke the uninstaller from the previous BOINC version, which will remove the BOINC program files from the BOINC program files directory. This is a directory that only contains the BOINC executables and other files needed to run the executables.

The BOINC Installer will then proceed to copy all the files from the database file it contains into the directory that the BOINC Unsinstaller removed the BOINC executables from, before checking with Windows if the permissions on that directory are correctly set up.

Project data, task, the Lunatics applications, and log files live in separate data directories not touched in any way, shape or form by the BOINC Installer and Uninstaller. Yes, data directories, plural, because some of the log files live in yet another separate directory since some iterations of BOINC.

Anyway, long story short:
Does the user upgrading BOINC need to uninstall the Lunatics files first? No, the Lunatics files are in a separate directory untouched by the BOINC installer and uninstaller.
Does the user upgrading BOINC need to uninstall BOINC first? No, upgrading BOINC automatically uninstalls the previous BOINC.
39) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Missing device in stats (Message 1621423)
Posted 31 Dec 2014 by Profile Ageless
You have two accounts. Either when you added the second device, you told BOINC to make a new account, or when using the "yes, use existing account" option, you mistyped the email address. Which in the case of swiping is easily done.

The only way to solve that is to remove Seti from the missing device and adding it again, this time making sure you added the correct email address.
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Making two BOINC projects play nice together (Message 1621405)
Posted 31 Dec 2014 by Profile Ageless
Asteroids@home has completed @1,000,000 work units
SETI@home has completed @11,000,000 work units

Apropos, no one took note of this yet, but the above is wrong. At Asteroids, you may have a million credits, while here at Seti you may have 11 million credits, but that doesn't mean BOINC ran a million and 11 million tasks respectively.

Asteroids pays 480 credit per task, Seti pays a variety depending on angle range and whether or not you run Multibeam or Astropulse. Multibeam can be 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 100s. Astropulse I've seen 500s and 600s. There is probably a lot of variety in between.

For Asteroids you ran 2,221 tasks.
For Seti at a wild guess 22,000 tasks (who can say).


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