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1) Questions and Answers : Windows : Maintenance 8/26 causing unparsed_xml error message (Message 1562934)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Ageless
Whatever it is, it happens on the server. I forwarded this to the admins.
2) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unable to Post (Message 1561610)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Ageless
But we weren't talking about options, we were talking about present support. Bada, Samsung's now defunct own operating system is not supported by any of the present methods of getting BOINC, or the science applications.
3) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unable to Post (Message 1561486)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Ageless
And third part custom. This is what the technique used for optimized applications was originally intended for.

And how many of the BOINC porters are still around, selflessly porting BOINC 7 over to the most obscure of operating systems, Linux excluded?

Yep, none.
4) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unable to Post (Message 1560713)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Ageless
Julie is correct. There is only support for Android, Windows (not Windows phone, btw), Linux, Mac OS X and OpenBSD for BOINC.
5) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559113)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Ageless
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.4.14.apk
6) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Computers not following preferences (Message 1559078)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile Ageless
Possibly your Android Boinc version. Try to update to the latest available 7.4.14 first. Google Play Store.
7) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : changing Graphic Card (Message 1558014)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Ageless
In a bit more detail, yes you need to finish all work you presently have for the AMD card, as it cannot be done on the Nvidia card.

Do set the project to No New Tasks, so that BOINC doesn't continue to update the cache. BOINC Manager->(View->Advanced view->)Projects tab->Select Seti@Home->Click No New Tasks (the button changes to Allow new tasks).

When you've run down the cache for the GPU, make sure to upload all the work and report it. Next exit BOINC. (BOINC Manager->File->Exit, acknowledge on stopping to run science applications->OK.)

Then go to Control Panel->Programs->Programs and Features, find any mention of AMD or ATI in the list and start uninstalling them. Whenever you're asked to restart, wait with that until all of the AMD/ATI entries have been uninstalled.

Before restarting, navigate to the Nvidia website and get the 340.52 drivers in (that is a direct link to download them for 64bit Vista/Windows7/Windows8). Save them to a convenient place, or to the desktop.

When they're downloaded, go Start->Shut down.

Open your case, take out the AMD card and put in the Nvidia card.
Put your case back together and start her up again.

After logging in to Windows, find the Nvidia drivers, double click on the installer and install the drivers. You may want to reboot after having installed them to finalize things.

Next restart BOINC, Advanced view, Advanced, Event Log (or press CTRL+SHIFT+E). Check that BOINC has detected your new GPU correctly.

If it has done so, allow new work: Projects tab, Select Seti@Home, click Allow new tasks.
If there's a problem, please post about it here or in a new thread.
In that case, also post those BOINC start-up messages.
8) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : ANDROID INSTALLATION (Message 1556664)
Posted 15 days ago by Profile Ageless
Yes. Google Play Store, find BOINC. There's a Berkeley version, should be up to 7.4.14 by now.
9) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : seti@home screensaver constantly restarting - BOINC 7.2.42 on Mavericks (Message 1556359)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile Ageless
I thought having the screen saver engaged would reduce the amount of work that could be completed?

Not by much. It is true that the graphics application runs on the CPU and that it therefore takes CPU cycles away from the science applications, but these cycles are minute in number. When you run the graphics application and check the amount of CPU cycles it takes in the monitor (or top, or Windows task manager), you'll see that it's perhaps 1 to 3 cycles every minute. Not much.
10) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : seti@home screensaver constantly restarting - BOINC 7.2.42 on Mavericks (Message 1554569)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile Ageless
Okay.

Then do know for the future, you were pointing to the so-called 'dl' site. This site has just about all of the Boinc versions in history. Bookmark and search through it next time, or look through the Boinc change log thread on the Boinc forums. :)

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/
11) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : seti@home screensaver constantly restarting - BOINC 7.2.42 on Mavericks (Message 1554489)
Posted 20 days ago by Profile Ageless
Here's a link to an older version of BOINC

Why point to such an old one? 7.2.33, which doesn't have the problem is the version that came before 7.2.42, so why not point to that?

Macintosh 7.2.33
- boinc_7.2.33_macOSX_i686.zip
- boinc_7.2.33_macOSX_SymbolTables.zip
- boinc_7.2.33_i686-apple-darwin.zip
12) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : trying to use my gpu (Message 1553817)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile Ageless
Is that statement wrong?

Shrug. I don't know who wrote that into Wikipedia, but not everything in Wikipedia is correct. I know from experience that the 3xx0 range of GPUs did not have OpenCL support, as I had a HD3850 at the time that wouldn't do it. Minimum was really a HD4xx0 GPU, and as I said it only had OpenCL 1.0 beta support.

That AMD only shows OpenCL 1.1 and 1.2 compliant GPUs on that list is because they would want people to develop and use at minimum OpenCL 1.1 because of its benefits over 1.0

It's like DirectX, where game developers add DirectX11 compliancy, so you're required to get a DX11 card. DX9.0c just doesn't cut it anymore, in terms of eye candy.

You may also want to install AMD APP SDK 2.7 at minimum.


Why, specifically? That's for software development. Is there some file or library I need from it?

Yep, it's for software development, which means that it has specific hardware support that isn't necessarily in the Catalyst drivers. It may add the needed beta support.

But as I started with, I doubt your GPU has OpenCL support, no matter what Wikipedia states. Then again, who am I? No need to believe me on my pretty eyes.
13) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : trying to use my gpu (Message 1553706)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile Ageless
Your GPU does not support OpenCL. See AMD OpenCL MD5 Checksums, System Requirements & Driver Compatibility. The minimum version of ATI/AMD HD GPUs that had OpenCL 1.0 support was the 4350, and that only had beta support, long since no longer available in the present day drivers.

I think 13.9 is one of the driver packages that dropped support for older than HD5xx0 GPUs, so you can try Catalysts 12.1 instead. But I don't think those work either.
You may also want to install AMD APP SDK 2.7 at minimum.
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : Classic Screensaver (Message 1553369)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile Ageless
It helps reading the thread you post in. See my message just two posts before yours.
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : Classic Screensaver (Message 1553039)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile Ageless
Where do I turn on the Screensaver itself that shows that globe-type graphic.

By the way, there are only two projects that have a globe-type graphic in their screen saver, these being Einstein and ClimatePrediction.net

These graphics only show when a task of Einstein or CPDN is running, not when Seti is running. Each project that has an own screen saver application, reacts on running tasks of that project. Not all projects have a screen saver application, which is why BOINC has a screen saver built in.
16) Questions and Answers : Windows : New User: Questions.. (Message 1552702)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile Ageless
I will be purchasing an Android Device next week and thus using NativeBOINC in order to utilize SETI@Home.

Do know that NativeBOINC is no longer being developed or updated.

Berkeley does have its own client for Android as well and it is actively being updated and produced. Downloads available through the Google Play Store and through the BOINC download all page.

Any questions about that can be asked on the BOINC Google Test Group listing.
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : Threats in setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe ? (Message 1552686)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile Ageless
Well, it can always have happened that it got infected on your own system. It's neigh on impossible it happened on the Seti server, as they run Linux, and compile the applications even under Linux. So, 99.9999999999999% chance it's a false positive.

If you want to be sure, though, download the executable again and run it through Virus Total, which will scan the file with 50+ up-to-date virus scanners. If it won't find anything there, it's a safe file and your AV is overreacting. You can manually download the file from http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe

Therefore, always, really always exclude the BOINC Data directory from being actively scanned by anti virus programs and anti-malware programs.
18) Questions and Answers : Preferences : CPU running severely over speed??? (Message 1552677)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile Ageless
Your CPU has a built-in feature called SpeedStep, which will throttle down the speed of the CPU when it's idle, or not doing much. This to conserve energy and that it won't get as hot.

As soon as you allow Seti to run, SpeedStep will increase the processor speed, thus increasing the energy usage, which results in heat. Which will probably be interfering with other things your laptop has set up, as laptops are notorious when it comes to heat.

Settings in preferences you certainly should check are:
Suspend work when non-BOINC CPU usage is above 25%, set this to higher or disable it (set it to 100).
Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last X minutes, this will allow BOINC to suspend when the computer goes into low power mode, which will probably happen when you've not touched the keyboard/mouse(pad) for several minutes.

You can try to disable Speedstep in the BIOS, but this will normally only allow the CPU to then run in the low speed. What you want to check is the Power Options in Windows, though, and change the behaviour of your CPU's power usage there.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/power-management
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9090/learning-windows-7-manage-power-settings/
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : Classic Screensaver (Message 1552674)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile Ageless
The flickering of the screen saver (fast switching between the BOINC screen saver and the project screen saver) is caused by the BOINC 7.2.42 client. something (unknown) changed between 7.2.34 and 7.2.42 that made it do this. It can only be fixed by either going back to 7.2.33, going forward to the latest development version --at the time of writing this post, that's 7.4.12-- or by temporarily disabling the screen saver.

- BOINC 7.2.33 for Windows, 32bit version
- BOINC 7.2.33for Windows, 64 bit version

- BOINC 7.4.12 for Windows, 32bit version
- BOINC 7.4.12 for Windows, 64bit version
20) Questions and Answers : Web site : Trying to Create New Team (Message 1552328)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile Ageless
I got word from the administrators that they updated the Team page software. This should now be fixed, so can you try again, please?


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