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1) Message boards : Number crunching : FIFO? (Message 1698495)
Posted 3 hours ago by Profile Ageless
As far as the priority debug flag is concerned, it doesn't state which task is in running hp.

That's because <cpu_sched_debug> will give that information.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad News on BOINC funding (Message 1698483)
Posted 5 hours ago by Profile Ageless
The BOINC source code is at GitHub, which is a web-based Git repository hosting service on an open source server.
The BOINC executables, forums, etc. are on the BOINC domain run from a server in Berkeley's co-location.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad News on BOINC funding (Message 1698433)
Posted 9 hours ago by Profile Ageless
That's the feeling I got from the document, which is arguably narcissistic in construct.

Well, not only that. The people whose names are on the Contribute page, they weren't asked if they wanted the job. If you were already in the job, you just got added to the list of being a commiter for this or that. I know, as no one asked me and I got added.

It is possible the same thing happened to the PMC, but someone has to ask the people on the list that.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad News on BOINC funding (Message 1698430)
Posted 9 hours ago by Profile Ageless
Before you ask "what about crowd-funding", it was one of the first things I asked David when I got the news. He answered me:

That would be a last resort.
The main beneficiary of volunteer computing is government-funded science research.
We save these funding agencies (like NSF) many millions of dollars, so logically they should fund us.

Also, Rom and I are expensive, and it's not likely that crowd-funding would
produce enough to support us.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad News on BOINC funding (Message 1698427)
Posted 9 hours ago by Profile Ageless
Let me also add: it's just the BOINC developers whose monthly income has dried up. Which means that Rom (Walton) and Charlie (Fenton) had to go look for new work.

Rom's latest plans I heard of was that he was going to work for World Community Grid/IBM.
Charlie is still available for bug-fixes and specific Mac questions, but otherwise no longer attached to BOINC.
David still works at SSL and will continue to be the director of Seti.

As far as I understand, BOINC 7.6 will still be released to the public within a couple of days or weeks. After that the development of both the client and the back-end will fall to anyone who wants to contribute: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ContributePage.

The only thing is, before any changes can be made, the PMC must converse about that and decide if they want BOINC to go in that direction. The PMC decides this about everything, from how the documentation looks like, to what the GUI should look like, to what can be done in the forums, to the inner workings of the client. Aside from the frustration that adds --I've run into one or two of them already-- best take my advice and shrug at it. It's like the past where David said he would or wouldn't add it, but this time times eight. Good luck in your fights.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : FIFO? (Message 1698268)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Ageless
Still don't know why we can't just have it say what it really is, like "Task ID in chance of not meeting deadline, running urgently."
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad News on BOINC funding (Message 1698259)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Ageless
Hallelujah, the cat is finally out of the bag. I've known about this since April and it has been very difficult for me to answer some posts on the various forums in which people asked for bug fixes or enhancements/additional add-ons. Most of the time I went and ignored them, because I wasn't allowed to breathe anything about this pending doom. :-/
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (98) Server Problems? (Message 1697940)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile Ageless
Here's a thing to panic about, the IPv4 addresses are nearing EOA (end of availability) in the USA. ARIN Activates IPv4 Unmet Requests Policy:

ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers) activated the IPv4 Unmet Requests policy (NRPM 4.1.8) this week with the approval of an address request that was larger than the available inventory in the regional IPv4 free pool.

ARIN does still have limited amounts of IPv4 address space available in smaller block sizes. We encourage customers to monitor the IPv4 Inventory Counter on the ARIN homepage and the breakdown of the remaining IPv4 inventory found on our IPv4 Depletion page.

Organizations that need larger amounts of address space are encouraged to make use of the IPv4 transfer market for those needs. ARIN also reminds organizations of the ample availability of IPv6 address space, and encourages organizations to evaluate IPv6 address space for their ongoing public Internet network activities.

But then, IPv6 may require new hardware, new software etc. AKA $$$$$$$$ a company may not want to spend at this time.
9) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Increasing RAM allocation on GPU... (Message 1697709)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile Ageless
The Quadro NVS140m is a GPU with either 128MB or 256MB of memory, though many notebook vendors released just the 128MB version. It can use up to 512MB shared memory, taken from the main memory.

BOINC however will only detect and use the actual memory on the GPU, not any additional you add through shared memory or the BIOS.
10) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697433)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
If I haven't melted, I will keep an eye on your system as well. :)

But if you see any opencl_ati5_cat132, opencl_ati5_nocal or opencl_ati5_sah tasks in your list again, just post about it in this or your other thread and I'll forward the info to the administration.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697416)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
Eric (Korpela) says he thinks he fixed it that older GPUs like yours could get applications for HD5xxx GPUs and above. Best thing to try to see if his fix fixed it, is continue using the default applications (i.e. not use the third party Lunatics apps) and see if you get a new HD5 task appointed.
12) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697415)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
Eric (Korpela) says he thinks he fixed it that older GPUs like yours could get applications for HD5xxx GPUs and above. Best thing to try to see if his fix fixed it, is continue using the default applications (i.e. not use the third party Lunatics apps) and see if you get a new HD5 task appointed.
13) Questions and Answers : Web site : Unknown app name in app_info.xml (Message 1697412)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
See http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77630 for the why (in short, the project removed the Astropulse v6 application references) and what your choices are to do (ignore it or edit your app_info.xml file.)
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (98) Server Problems? (Message 1697332)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
With temperatures the rest of the week being above 30C (86F) and on Saturday/Sunday expecting to be in the direction of 40C (104F), good cooling is required. Especially in a flat that warms up like an oven. Though I doubt I'll do much Seti during the next week / heat wave as I lack water cooling on the GPU.

I've decided to wait until the temperatures go down a tad before changing over the whole shebang, because of one difficult side-effect of this heat: I am static 90% of the time. Do not want to handle electronic components during that time. I've already had a shock from my new case, complete with spark. Not wise to then swap a motherboard over.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Expanding my knowledge ;-) (Message 1697329)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
"Job cache full" (to quote the exact Event Log message) is a measure of the total estimated runtime of the tasks cached, rather than a count of the number.

Multiplied by:

Fraction of time BOINC is running
While BOINC is running, fraction of time computing is allowed
While is BOINC running, fraction of time GPU computing is allowed
16) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697326)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
Your cheat sheet says there's a bug with Catalyst 13.1.

I still don't think you run 13.1, as you say your ATI driver package version is 8.970.100.7000, which puts it between 8.961.0.0000 for 12.4 and 8.980.0.0000 for 12.6, thus is probably 12.5

In any case, if you had 13.1 your BOINC wouldn't receive any work from the project, because at each scheduler request your BOINC would send that version number along which the scheduler checks against a list of not-allowed versions. If on the list, no work is sent. There's no use sending work if it's 100% going to be returned faulty anyway.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Unknown app?? (Message 1697319)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
And disable network communications.
And if youn want to be totally safe, make a backup of client_state.xml and the whole of the Seti directory.
18) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697295)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
I have Catalyst 13.1 installed; if my Computer Page says driver = 1.1734 it must be true, I don't know where to check that

Those of us helping out use the ATI Driver Cheat Sheet as all that info is impossible to remember.

When I check for updates from the Catalyst Control Center, it says there is no update available.

And which hasn't been since 12.10, from which point onwards there would've only been maintenance updates (i.e. if a glaring nreaking bug was found, they'd fix that, but else no updates). So 13.1 is fine.

...maybe I can first simply disable the applications I can't run, in the project settings...

No, sadly that isn't possible at this project. You can only set to run either Setiathome v7 or Astropulse v7, not which specific applications these can use. That is decided by the scheduler at the moment that it appoints work to your computer, and that is where it goes wrong it seems. I'll let the developers know that if there is a plan-class for these lower GPUs that there's something wrong and that it's sending wrong applications to these older GPUs.

Or, as said, you can choose your own applications from the Lunatics installer and then the project will only use those.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : 'rm -rf *' considered harmful (Message 1697115)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
How blue was the air in your room, at the time you found out? ;-)
20) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Bad new task initialization? (GPU crunching with ATI Radeon HD 4670, Windows 7 64bit) (Message 1697113)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile Ageless
graphics drivers are the latest ones from ATI.
If with the latest you mean 14.12 Omega, then these do not have the correct OpenCL support for your GPU. Your computer page states driver: 1.4.1734 which is probably 12.5. If that version, that's fine.

But your ATI Radeon HD 4670 only has Beta OpenCL support. It never had full OpenCL 1.0 support, which can give trouble with some of the science applications Seti sends out.

The opencl_ati5_sah is one application your GPU can never run, as it's for AMD 5xxx GPUs. I see your GPU is handling the opencl_ati_100 and opencl_ati_sah applications just fine, though.

If you want to prevent the use of the application geared for HD 5xxxx and above GPUs, you can opt to use the third party (further optimized) Lunatics applications. These run through the anonymous platform option built into BOINC. If you want to, you can download the installer from http://http://lunatics.kwsn.info/


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