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1) Message boards : Politics : The commie, pinko, alternative lifestyle types are crucifying Governor Christie. (Message 1472452)
Posted 79 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
annnnddd what a jerk
2) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : boinc not see ATI GPU when start from physical console, but seem when start from terminal session (Message 1472442)
Posted 79 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
you have 1 AP WU displayed that worked. So I guess you are correct it can work. however you also have 25 failed AP's so there is that. I assume that you wrote that you had completed 2 WU's not that you run 2 at a time.

Reread your post and I see you weren't running the BOINC process from the desktop an the OS may have not loaded the drivers for the GPU thus no GPU processing. I'm not sure at what point the OS loads the drivers and if this might be what is preventing you from using the GPU. I can only assume the OS doesn't load the drivers in the console sessions.
3) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Linux Problem - BOINC Won't Run Under Mate Desktop (Message 1472435)
Posted 79 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
try downloading boinc from a linux repository. It might not be the latest version but it should have all the files intact and run as intended
4) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : boinc not see ATI GPU when start from physical console, but seem when start from terminal session (Message 1472426)
Posted 79 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
at 4350 isn't a usable card for Linux and only for Brooks hybrid for windows IIRC
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux/NVIDIA/AP questions (Message 1471350)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
You didn't mention if you installed the Nvidia Linux drivers or the stock Linux ones that install when it sees the GPU. That might just be the first step in getting the openCL to be recognized.

I believe arkayn or mike have a repository of current "lunatics" apps that work with linux/windows/apple products. Just look at their websites for more info. also don't forget to set your permissions on the files. No permissions = not able to use it.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : runaway AMD/openCL (Message 1471344)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
What about runaway GPU AstroPulse hosts?
Any flavours from ATi to Intel, NV including. any links ?

I've only seen the MB overflowing.
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Throttling CPU (Message 1471341)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
not preaching, or at least not trying to do so. but an Aftermarket HSF shouldn't heat up like that. Check your hsf seating and thermal paste. YOu might just have to little paste or a poorly seated HSF. another thought... Are you using a larger PC case. air doesn't flow well in a hot small microatx box. A very good heat solution is a newer larger box with multiple fans pushing and pulling air. also look for a box that has the PSU attachment on the bottom where the air intake and exhaust are external.

That is if you dont already have this going for you. not to be preaching of course
8) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 60,000 happy cricket fans at the MCG. (Message 1471335)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
no kidding. Perhaps we could show them baseball. Just as boring but with rules that actually move it along
9) Message boards : Number crunching : [SETI@home] Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home v7 (Message 1471293)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
and instead of being irritated by my question. You could have explained, if you really know, why the apps aren't using the conventional nomenclature
10) Message boards : Number crunching : runaway AMD/openCL (Message 1471291)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
In fact, I would have thought that an overflow would create an automatic resend of work to the next PC/GPU.


The difficulty with that: there is fully legal genuine overflows just because of data patterns, not because of some failure in data processing. Sending such overflows on other hosts will just confirm such overflow and this can be quite infinite process.

What we need is to distinguish probably valid overflows from probably false ones before false ones reach the validator.
Hence some common patterns should be found by human volunteers then that patterns can be coded as heuristics by app developer (me in case of OpenCl for example) and then app will be able to do "CRC" checking on own results to not report suspicious ones to validator.

One current heuristics I'm going to implement is: if tasks overflowed only with autocorrs then it's highly probable that it's false overflow. Hence abort such result.
This will block most of such host results from reaching validator.

This will not work if there is 1 spike for example and 29 autocorrs.
So, next advance in heuristic could be: abort all overflows where autocorr number >= X. Let's find such X. If it will be too low app will abort genuine overflows also, if too high - some flase overflows will pass still.
isn't that the reason to sent these WU's out a max of 10 times with errors on return. the rule is already there make sure the bad WU's aren't part of the good data. Why not use what is already setup instead of assuming a WU is bad because just 2 CPU/GPUs send in bad results.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Abandoned tasks? (Message 1471279)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
the chat system in Steam is nothing much more than an IRC chat. Unless you or BOINC have problems with IRC I doubt that is the problem
12) Message boards : Number crunching : runaway AMD/openCL (Message 1471277)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
I agree that false overflows should never validate. In fact, I would have thought that an overflow would create an automatic resend of work to the next PC/GPU. Overflows and errors should never be allowed to validate.

On the people that we see rapid errors from, no all are anonymous. Most are active unhidden users that a PM should suffice in getting them to act on their misbehaving PC.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Out of ATI/AMD workunits? (Message 1471275)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
If you are using the lunatics apps and only have the AP WU's setup you won't be able to get MB WU's until you reinstall the lunatics apps and include the MB in your GPU processing
14) Message boards : Number crunching : [SETI@home] Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home v7 (Message 1471268)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
just wondering of the name for the AP app is correct. Did they change the linux app naming to have the version name in the middle of the name or is this a copying error and it should be at the end or at least an underscore between the app number and the r version



ap_6.07r1844_sse2_clATI_linux64 what he has
ap_6.07_r1844_sse2_clATI_linux64 shouldn't it look like that or
ap_6.07_sse2_clATI_linux64_r1844
15) Message boards : Number crunching : runaway AMD/openCL (Message 1471264)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
I've encountered several folks like this. Typically a kind PM to them works wonders. I'd like to think things can be solved a bit quieter than public display of runaway PC/GPU's
16) Questions and Answers : Windows : Throttling CPU (Message 1471263)
Posted 82 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
I'll repeat what has already been said. BOINC will use your CPU 20% of the time. BOINC will max out the usage per hour not 20% at all time. So you are not getting any benefit from reduced usage as you might think would happen. You'll want to use an after market Heatsinkfan(HSF) combo that quite honestly only run around $40. That certainly will reduce the heat and allow you to run more work without burning up your CPU
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (86) Server Problems? (Message 1470917)
Posted 83 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
please read this thread

that thread says your WU may be corrupted.

I'm looking at the uploader error as being the problem
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Machine Down! (Message 1470897)
Posted 83 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
I used to worry about running my systems without a UPS. I can honestly say I haven't had a UPS for at least 4 years and nothing has happened to my systems with a power failure. windows XP and 7 are very good at saving themselves in case of a power interruption. Unlike older versions corruption is unlikely in the advent of a power failure.

Also of note, Parts are actually not that expensive to replace compared to actually purchasing a UPS that can handle a high end PC. The only major part I'd worry about is the HDD and it might fail if the spin down occurs as it is writing. 0therwise, I've not had 1 hardware problem with a poweroutage
19) Questions and Answers : Web site : not enough credit to post (Message 1470844)
Posted 83 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
The Seti team is attempting to limit abuse by bots and other tards that flood forums with ads and other garbage. Limiting users with no RAC to the Q&A is one way to limit access to the main forums from nefarious individuals. It also encourages users of the forum to remain ever so slightly active so they can have the privilege to post on the main forums.

That's right it is a privilege to first post here and second to do the work and be allowed to chat about other topics on the other forum.
20) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mysterious Miscellaneous Tool Time v1 (Message 1470421)
Posted 84 days ago by Profile ignorance is no excuse
a possible mass produced spindle for a bow and spindle fire starting kit


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