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21) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1780388)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Yet our current government would like to drop any involvement with renewable energy and cripple the roll out for "fibre to home" down to "fibre to node" and to old copper after that. ;/(

We're being crippled by stupid conservatives.

Cheers.
22) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1780386)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Martin, where have you been when people with linux probs are asking for help elsewhere?

Cheers.
23) Message boards : Politics : Anyone else supporting Bernie Sanders for president? (Message 1780385)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
I try to look at the US from a world view.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/page/3/

I see how we are doing against other countries, and where we are not doing well, and evaluate what the number 1 country in any parameter is doing. If I want to have the top cruncher in the world, I look at the statistics, and see how the top cruncher is configured. If I want the best health care, education, etc. I look at the number one position. I figure it is impossible to lead from last place.
We are number 1 in obesity.
We are number 1 in guns per person.
We are number 1 in number of people in prison.

We are far behind in other categories such as health care and education.
It would seem logical to emulate the countries that are doing much better than the US in many categories, instead of saying we are the best country, but really aren't.

Steve

A good post Steve, but do you think that your countrymen are up to the radical changes in attitudes, politics and business practices required to correct the problems yous have over there?

Personally I can't see that ever happening going by other U.S. posters here.

Cheers.

To the Self-Styled, Non-American, 'Ain't We Superior Posters':

In the fading Pax Americana:

Western Europe will now have to deal with an Expanding, and Aggressive, Controlling the Means of Your Wealth - Greater Russia. Good luck!

Those in the Western Pacific. Will have to deal with an Expanding, Aggressive, Militarily and Economically Powerful China. Good luck!

'Daddy' is tired, fading, and going home. As all Past, Present and Future Empires do. Possibly to 'Sit' in The America's for a couple of hundred years. Until its collapse, as yours, will happen.

Or as History Instructs: Your future is not bright. Unless...

Good luck!

You'd have a stroke Clyde before you could see anything close to the "common sense" that better countries have had for decades (along with a few others here).

Cheers.
24) Message boards : News : Breakthrough Listen data now flowing. (Message 1780384)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
I don't see why someone would want to do only 1/3 or 1/4 of what he can actually do for the project.


I estimate we have from hundreds to thousands of times greater of a chance finding ETI in a GBT work unit than an Arecibo one, because it is targeted to stars that are nearby, known to have exoplanets, and known (or thought) to have them in favourable positions for life (as we know it, Jim.)

It comes down to quality over quantity. And it's rather sadly ironic that the people who have contributed to this project the most over the years in terms of work done and time/money/effort invested in doing so are now mostly excluded from its most anticipated and promising venture.

It should be improved even more when Parkes data comes online. ;-)

Cheers.
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1780377)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Just from my perspective my 2 rigs (though change 3570K with Q6600@3GHz, same GPU's) use to pull around 90K RAC under MB V6 only and that dropped to 64K RAC under MB V7. I'm still doing personal tests with MB V8 to see what impact it has.

It would just be nice to have a standard baseline that could be comparable across all MB versions.

I also remember when doing AP's was a penalty. ;-)

Cheers.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Say goodbye to SETI@home v7. (Message 1780369)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
716 left.

You're doing well Sten. ;-)

[edit] maybe I should add "socialist" to my name. :-D

Cheers.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Help (Message 1780365)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
But even as a safety measure against web server outages, the numbers "cached" should be in proportion to the numbers that are being successfully crunched. A host that is processing 10 or 12 WUs a month does not need a "cache" of 400 WUs. But a host that is crunching 200 WUs a day can justify a cache of that size. And so I repeat, there is room for the deadlines to be tightened a little

And as I keep pointing out, but it doesn't appear to be sinking in- cache size and WU deadlines are 2 unrelated issues. No matter how much smaller you make caches there will still be WUs that take a couple of months, or more, to eventually validate & clear from your Validation pending or Inconclusive list.
Yes, large caches do have an impact on the number of WUs outstanding, and if people were able to cache several weeks or even a month or more of work then caches sizes would have a significant impact on the time for WUs to Validate. However that isn't the case, so the impact of large caches on slow machines is so small as to be of no consequence and so irrelevant.

So arguing about cache size is pointless if you are concerned about how long it takes for some WUs to eventually validate; that period of time is due to deadlines, not cache size. And the deadlines are what they are for the reasons I mentioned previously.

If you were to be concerned about systems that download work but don't return any, or systems that for some reason have a full cache yet return mostly errors then you'd be one of many.
But as cache size has no impact on the number of WUs that take extended periods to validate, it doesn't make any sense to make an issue out of cache sizes.


To summarise- as things are, large caches on slow machines have no significant impact on the time it takes for WUs to eventually validate.

As Grant said, the size of of a person's cache isn't the the problem.

The problem is those that join, get their max fill of work and then have a problem. Then they uninstall without detaching from the project 1st or asking about it leaving hundreds of tasks to timeout (& I've mentioned this before here that if someone does do an uninstall then it should notify all the servers that it's connected to at the same time as the uninstall).

This has been a problem since the beginning and hopefully someone may finally address this problem Stephen, but you'll soon learn that extreme patience is required for this project if you wish to support it. ;-)

But who am I to give advice? ROFL

Cheers.
28) Message boards : Number crunching : issues running seti@home (Message 1780363)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Darth Beaver,
I wanted to be able to run on the gpu and not the cpu. That way I can still use the system while its doing its thing for Seti. thanks everyone.

I run on both the CPU & GPU while using the system for other things with no issues, as do many others.

In fact both of your Intel systems would do very well using both CPU and GPU's, especially if you have good cooling in place, but that AMD (lappie?) rig I'd forget about myself (though there maybe a few who will disagree). ;-)

Cheers.
29) Message boards : News : Breakthrough Listen data now flowing. (Message 1780361)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Hello Darren, the first thing to do is get used to the information available in the "advanced" view. This will tell you which tasks are running, how long they have been running for and give you access to the first level of optimising your system.
BOINC is designed to provide a "fit and forget" environment for projects such as SETI to run in, it does much of the day to day stuff for you - fetching work, controlling when work runs, reporting it. It is really your call on how much fiddling you do - you can sit back and watch the numbers click up or your sit there worrying that this task is taking a few seconds longer than the previous one and how can you get them all to run in the same time (the answer to the latter is "you can't, each task is unique".

Once you've got used to how your computer runs you might want to consider a bit of tuning, or you may decide its doing OK, your call, and provided it is returning valid results don't be bullied to do something "because Joe told me to".

Extremely good advice and stick to the advice by those with similar hardware and operating system to yours (if the person has their PC's hidden or won't give you a link to similar hardware then don't take it). ;-)

[edit] click on their user name to check

Cheers.
30) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers Thread part 26 (Message 1780263)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Well it's been a frustrating day here so far with a cantankerous laptop and I've had enough of it for the moment so a beer or 3 down the hill sounds like a good idea to me ATM while some severe memory testing goes on.

Cheers.
31) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW 255 - Last Night was Grimm...When Doves Cry (Message 1780256)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Rules of TLPTPW 255.

6. No double posts. Violator buys a round for the house in Rocky's Pub.

So, someone owe us at least a couple of rounds!

If he hasn't already drunk them that is. ;-)

Cheers.
32) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1780244)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
I find it interesting that the very same folks who are saying that Trump would be a bad president are the same ones that said that Obama would be a good president.

I rest my case.

It is all a question of values.

And wisdom, or lack of same.

Yes it is and after reading your political posts for quite a few years I understand how paranoia and racism can color ones view.

+1

Cheers.
33) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW 255 - Last Night was Grimm...When Doves Cry (Message 1780237)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
Nobody EXPECTS the spanish inquisition....

And you wonder why so many people don't come here anymore?

Cheers.
34) Message boards : Politics : Anyone else supporting Bernie Sanders for president? (Message 1780229)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
I try to look at the US from a world view.
https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/page/3/

I see how we are doing against other countries, and where we are not doing well, and evaluate what the number 1 country in any parameter is doing. If I want to have the top cruncher in the world, I look at the statistics, and see how the top cruncher is configured. If I want the best health care, education, etc. I look at the number one position. I figure it is impossible to lead from last place.
We are number 1 in obesity.
We are number 1 in guns per person.
We are number 1 in number of people in prison.

We are far behind in other categories such as health care and education.
It would seem logical to emulate the countries that are doing much better than the US in many categories, instead of saying we are the best country, but really aren't.

Steve

A good post Steve, but do you think that your countrymen are up to the radical changes in attitudes, politics and business practices required to correct the problems yous have over there?

Personally I can't see that ever happening going by other U.S. posters here.

Cheers.
35) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW 255 - Last Night was Grimm...When Doves Cry (Message 1780212)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
First one to Post after the Outrage!!!!! :-)

Back at the top, and WINNING!!!!! :-)

[EDIT] Wait a minute... There wasn't an Outrage????? What happened?

It"ll be here bright and early like a bunny wabbit on Tuesday...

OK, I wish they'd stop changing days...

Back at the top, and WINNING!!!!! :-)

If you havn't realised it yet TL, last Monday's outrage (Tuesday's for me) was to introduce GBT work with last Tuesday's normal, but short, outrage (Wednesday's for me) just being the normal backup one.

Cheers.
36) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers Thread part 26 (Message 1780040)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
I hope that all goes well for you Grant.

Now for a couple of rums before cooking some dinner.

Cheers.
37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers Thread part 26 (Message 1779946)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
After 4 days and an early start this morning I've finally got the back rooms in my shed back to normal after fully washing and sterilising the brewroom, bathroom and hallway between them (now that was a back breaking effort). :-)

Only my hobby/work room missed out on the clean up, but it can now wait until spring.

Cheers.
38) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How to remove a thread? (Message 1779840)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"


Right now I'm processing 4 different Arecibo files, all were recorded back in 2010, 6 years ago, and held in storage till now.


Those tapes have already been processed under V6 & V7 (maybe even V5) so it only makes sense to run them again under V8. ;-)


When I used the 'X' to delete my thread I got a msg back asking why I found the thread 'offensive?'

That's what you get when the system is setup by scientific types. :-D

Cheers.
39) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How do those of yous who live on the Ring of Fire feel? (Message 1779839)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"

What is going on?


The unusually high activity at the time is what prompted me to start this thread and it doesn't seem to have slowed down since (if anything it's getting more active). :-O

Cheers.
40) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How to remove a thread? (Message 1779778)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile Wiggo "Socialist"
The thing is, to some of us, the cycles needed to run the screen saver are better spent processing work. :-)

Cheers.


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