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1) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? (Message 1552065)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Thanks for the explanation. Hopefully someone will fix this.

Jeff
2) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? (Message 1551941)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
I'm not subscribed to anything on this site. And I've rarely posted anything on this site.

The repeated 'notices' are coming up in BOINC when it is attached to the Seti@Home Project. You click on the link in the 'notice', in BOINC, and it takes you to a political post in a forum thread started by a "Eric Korpela". You click on the blog entry link in his initial post and it takes you here.

For years, the only notices ever pushed out through BOINC were about service outages and new versions. Now, all of a sudden, a 'notice' is being continually repeated regarding this political discussion. It would be nice if I could get the attention of an administrator or moderator to look into this and get it stopped.

Thanks,

Jeff
3) Message boards : SETI@home Staff Blog : What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? (Message 1551924)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
This political message thread appears to be triggering a 'notice' in BOINC every time someone posts to it. Can we get that fixed? Who is the Administrator here? How can this be stopped?

Thanks,

Jeff
4) Message boards : News : What does loss of net neutrality mean for volunteer computing? (Message 1546948)
Posted 34 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Okay, how do I stop the repeated "Notices" from firing in BOINC that lead to this political blog message? Seriously.
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 640684)
Posted 2539 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Maybe to help eliminate at least one possibility would be to suggest attaching to another project to see if that one locks up your CPU. This will remove the science app as one possibility (and also the WU headers per your theory).


That's an interesting possibility, which I may try when I have some time. But, the fact still remains that it did work with another science app -- version 5.15 of seti. And still does if I clone my old preserved drive image. If I boot the image of my entire system as it was before the switch to 5.27, and have the clock set back to that time, and have the internet unplugged, the old app runs just like it has forever. As soon as the download & upgrade of 5.27 occurs, and it shortly after it starts one of the new-style WUs, blam. The system is locked up. The only thing that changes is the new science app.

But connecting to a non-seti project may be an interesting experiment.

Jeff
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 640674)
Posted 2539 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Very few people use windows 98, and SE was renowned for its bugs.

Actually Win98SE was an excelent OS, just not as tolerant of poorly behaved programmes as WinXP is. You're probably thinking of WinME which didn't have the best of reputations.


Yep, that nails it. I have never had any problems (until now) with Win98SE. Most of the problems (with any OS) are poorly behaved apps, and not keeping your system clean.

Regarding Boinc, I would not even think of running an app like this on Win98SE, if the posted requirements did not explicitly say "Windows 98 or later", as they do.

Now back to solving this ...
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 639399)
Posted 2541 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Do you have all the Win98SE updates from WindowsUpdate.com installed? Have you scanned for adware/spyware recently? Have you tested your system RAM with Memtest86+?


Fresh WIN98SE install with all patches. No Adware. Memory tested, again.

The first thing that starts at the begining of a work unit is that fourier transform, which takes just a few minutes, during which the machine is responsive. The as it appears to go to the next step (can't remember what its called from the previous 5.15 version when it was working) the machine locks up.
Same sequence of events with NO graphics. Always locks up right near the begining of these new work units, after just a couple minutes.

What's interesting is that Uapel (above) is having what appears to be a similar issue under XP, on considerably newer hardware. Hmmmm.
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 639050)
Posted 2541 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
I wonder if this problem is related to the new inclusion of MMX/SSEx into the science app. Your Celeron 766 should be a Coppermine core that supports SSE, so theoretically it shouldn't be an issue.


I concur with that. The only thing that changed for me was when the science app upgraded from 5.15 to 5.27. I'm betting its an obscure processor-dependent bug or oversight in the code. Perhaps related to the multi-beam processing.

Thanks again for any assistance you can come up with.

Jeff
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 638434)
Posted 2542 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
jason,

Thanks for giving me some things to check. I really appreciate it and would like to get this thing "fixed" :-)

Now for some answers:

Hi there, just some thoughts if I may. Assuming you have eliminated the possibility of overheating, does the machine still lock up if you do not use the graphics button or screensaver at all?


Yes. Graphics on or graphics off. No difference. With BIONC open, I clicked the "Show Graphics" in a window button just to see at what point the machine is freezing up. Its right after completing the "performing fast fourier ..." something process, if memory serves. With graphics off (or running one of those alternative "optimized" science science apps that don't do graphics), the PC appears to lock up at about tne same elapsed time as when I watched it with the graphics window showing above.[/quote]

If it runs ok like that then I would be suspecting something about the video drivers and the new seti version's OpenGL capability. I run ATI Radeons in my 2 machines and have disabled screensavers and don't use the graphics, since last year, as I used to get occasional computation errors and occasional lockup. Using the drivers without catalyst control panel seemed to correct that for me, but I went to optimised applications without graphics after that anyway (for the extra ~2% crunching).


Again- happens with no graphics running.

So I guess some good questions might be, What video card are you running?


An older Voodoo 3500 (3dfx).

Are the drivers up to date?....do any other OpenGL graphics applications exhibit strange behaviour sometimes ?


Yes. Never.

Oh I see one other small possibility from looking at your machine, [This won't be an issue if it's been working fine with the same hardware configuration for ages]


Exactly- no other problems ever, until the new science app downloaded. Do not believe video is an issue.

it lists as 318MB RAM... I guess that might be about 512MB minus some for shared motherboard video ?


No shared video- AGP video card with its own 16MB onboard.

That's probably okay but ... I had a PIII running win98se, and as soon as the total of video ram + system ram went above 512mB then win98SE would go ballistic [...You might want to try pulling 1 stick out and see if that fixes it... you also tested the RAM 'recently' with memtest86 right?] ended up putting XP Pro on that machine just fine (until it eventually died from aged capacitors) just another thought.



Tried it with each memory stick (128-128-64) removed (one at a time). No difference. Memory all tests good.

I really believe there is something wrong with the new science app. Now what?

Jeff
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 632189)
Posted 2551 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Hi Jeff,

Could you please unhide your computers so we can see the details of your machine(s)?

Thanks,

Eric


Done.


BUMP.
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 629822)
Posted 2553 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Hi Jeff,

Could you please unhide your computers so we can see the details of your machine(s)?

Thanks,

Eric


Done.
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 629217)
Posted 2554 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
...other folks here with the same problem.

If they could post in this thread the issues they are having it may help solve the problem; as it is you're the only one i'm aware of having this issue.


See Post #3 (uapel), and #6 (grunneger), in this thread.
Machines lock up shortly after new science app (5.27) starts up.
No additional indications.

I myself have gone through the effort of a complete format and reinstall of WIn98SE, reinstall BOINC, and same behavior present. If I put the hard drive back in with the image containing the pre-5.27 version of the science app, all runs well, as it has fine for years. But as soon as it updates to 5.27, computer locks up hard. No disk activity, no response. Must cycle power.

That's about all the detective work I'm able to do here. Something has changed with 5.27 to cause this.
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 628541)
Posted 2555 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.

Can you try installing an optomized application without graphics? At the moment, I can't remember where these are.


I can try. Is that something I would download from this site? How does it run, in comparison to the regular application?

Also, I've noticed earlier posts in this thread (from uapel and Grunneger), virtually the same problem reported. With that in mind, I'm trying to understand if (or how) this might be somehow unique to me, especially since it affected my older Win98SE machine, and new XP system, which have nothing in common with one another.

This is an interesting puzzel.


Yes, it is an interesting puzzle.

No, the optimized applications are not downloaded from this site, they come from third party sites. A good optimized application will run faster than the stock application. This is because the optimized applications are for specific CPUs rather than being for all windows intel machines.


I see. So where would I go now?

http://lunatics.at/index.php


No go. Anything that's current that I download and install locks up the machine a couple minutes after the science application starts. I rolled back my machine (GoBack) to the date when it was working fine (under the 5.15(?) science application version, I think), and no troubles (the computer was disconnected from the internet and thought it was a couple weeks ago, running the previous version). No lockups. I then immediately install the latest version of Boinc (after uninstalling the current one), and everything is fine, until it finishes the FFT at the begining of a workunit, then the PC locks up hard. The software seems okay - maybe something to do with the composition of the new work units. I don't know. Intel Celeron 766MHz Win98SE.


Bump.
Any ideas?


BUMP.

Any resolution with the PCs that are locking up after the switch to 5.27?
I've pretty much exhausted resolution here, and haven't heard a solution via PM with other folks here with the same problem.

Jeff

14) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 626070)
Posted 2559 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.

Can you try installing an optomized application without graphics? At the moment, I can't remember where these are.


I can try. Is that something I would download from this site? How does it run, in comparison to the regular application?

Also, I've noticed earlier posts in this thread (from uapel and Grunneger), virtually the same problem reported. With that in mind, I'm trying to understand if (or how) this might be somehow unique to me, especially since it affected my older Win98SE machine, and new XP system, which have nothing in common with one another.

This is an interesting puzzel.


Yes, it is an interesting puzzle.

No, the optimized applications are not downloaded from this site, they come from third party sites. A good optimized application will run faster than the stock application. This is because the optimized applications are for specific CPUs rather than being for all windows intel machines.


I see. So where would I go now?

http://lunatics.at/index.php


No go. Anything that's current that I download and install locks up the machine a couple minutes after the science application starts. I rolled back my machine (GoBack) to the date when it was working fine (under the 5.15(?) science application version, I think), and no troubles (the computer was disconnected from the internet and thought it was a couple weeks ago, running the previous version). No lockups. I then immediately install the latest version of Boinc (after uninstalling the current one), and everything is fine, until it finishes the FFT at the begining of a workunit, then the PC locks up hard. The software seems okay - maybe something to do with the composition of the new work units. I don't know. Intel Celeron 766MHz Win98SE.


Bump.
Any ideas?
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 624595)
Posted 2561 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.

Can you try installing an optomized application without graphics? At the moment, I can't remember where these are.


I can try. Is that something I would download from this site? How does it run, in comparison to the regular application?

Also, I've noticed earlier posts in this thread (from uapel and Grunneger), virtually the same problem reported. With that in mind, I'm trying to understand if (or how) this might be somehow unique to me, especially since it affected my older Win98SE machine, and new XP system, which have nothing in common with one another.

This is an interesting puzzel.


Yes, it is an interesting puzzle.

No, the optimized applications are not downloaded from this site, they come from third party sites. A good optimized application will run faster than the stock application. This is because the optimized applications are for specific CPUs rather than being for all windows intel machines.


I see. So where would I go now?

http://lunatics.at/index.php


No go. Anything that's current that I download and install locks up the machine a couple minutes after the science application starts. I rolled back my machine (GoBack) to the date when it was working fine (under the 5.15(?) science application version, I think), and no troubles (the computer was disconnected from the internet and thought it was a couple weeks ago, running the previous version). No lockups. I then immediately install the latest version of Boinc (after uninstalling the current one), and everything is fine, until it finishes the FFT at the begining of a workunit, then the PC locks up hard. The software seems okay - maybe something to do with the composition of the new work units. I don't know. Intel Celeron 766MHz Win98SE.
16) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 623922)
Posted 2563 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.

Can you try installing an optomized application without graphics? At the moment, I can't remember where these are.


I can try. Is that something I would download from this site? How does it run, in comparison to the regular application?

Also, I've noticed earlier posts in this thread (from uapel and Grunneger), virtually the same problem reported. With that in mind, I'm trying to understand if (or how) this might be somehow unique to me, especially since it affected my older Win98SE machine, and new XP system, which have nothing in common with one another.

This is an interesting puzzel.


Yes, it is an interesting puzzle.

No, the optimized applications are not downloaded from this site, they come from third party sites. A good optimized application will run faster than the stock application. This is because the optimized applications are for specific CPUs rather than being for all windows intel machines.


I see. So where would I go now?
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 623041)
Posted 2564 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.

Can you try installing an optomized application without graphics? At the moment, I can't remember where these are.


I can try. Is that something I would download from this site? How does it run, in comparison to the regular application?

Also, I've noticed earlier posts in this thread (from uapel and Grunneger), virtually the same problem reported. With that in mind, I'm trying to understand if (or how) this might be somehow unique to me, especially since it affected my older Win98SE machine, and new XP system, which have nothing in common with one another.

This is an interesting puzzel.

18) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 622804)
Posted 2565 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Of course I already tried all solutions suggested by Seti@Home

Does it still happen with the screen saver off?


Yes. I finally was able to confirm this, on both my trusty Win98SE machine, and the new XP machine I recently set up. Something is wrong with 5.27.
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 621669)
Posted 2566 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
What is tha status of the Hard Disk light when the computer is locked up?


No Activity. Computer is frozen.
This began immediatley after the 5.27 update.
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Crashing (Message 621471)
Posted 2566 days ago by Profile CENTAURI-A
Anyone got any ideas yet?


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