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21) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810361)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
IE: The Poster (you know who he is). Who has continually attacked Christians. Attack those, who attack Muslims, as Bigots. Then, I asked, why isn't he a 'Bigot' against Christians?


So, you're saying he cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundametalist Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.

BTW, OzzFan was a mod 9 years ago, so he and I go way back. He may go further back with the poster you do not wish to name than you do.

Sarge...

The 'Poster' I mentioned, wasn't OzzFan.

The 'Poster' and I. Also go back a long time. With great disagreements.

With Clinton or Trump, we'll get more of the same: flood up economics.

Yes Sarge. I agree.


So, you're saying he (the poster who shall not be named that is not OzzFan, added) cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundame[n]talist (sic on my part) Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.


As for something relatively on topic, the above quote remains unanswered.
And Clyde, the next part is not an attack: I do agree with others that you are missing some things being said and thus may not be responding to what they actually say.
Case in point, a very minor example just occurred: I know your main disagreement is not with OzzFan. I know who it is with.
The only reasons I included OzzFan at the end of my post are: (1) he's basically making the same point I am now and (2) you told him you have a long history of disagreements with "the poster you aren't naming right now", but Ozz has been here a looong time as well. Maybe longer when it comes to using the message boards. (I also suspect he has a pretty good memory.)

Continuous Problem...

I respond to 'The Poster'. And others, not 'The Poster', responds.

Then I respond to their defense of 'The Poster'.

Re: Disagreements with OzzFan.

Unlike 'The Poster' and a few others. Even with our fundamental disagreements on some issues. I find OzzFan, and others, very intellectually stimulating.

Unfortunately... These Forums and other Social Media's. Are not conducive to a stimulating back-and-forth.

Sitting in our favorite place, with a Cafe Latte or Beer, discussing the issues of the day. Would be more productive and interesting.
22) Message boards : Politics : Anyone else supporting Bernie Sanders for president? (Message 1810354)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
This indicates the Bern has not gotten rich from his position.

The median net worth for a member of Congress was $442,000 in 2012, according to Roll Call.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/joe-biden-says-he-is-the-poorest-man-in-congress/

Joe Biden has an estimated net worth amounting to around $500 thousand.

http://q=Joe+Biden+net+worth&oq=Joe+Biden+net+worth&aqs=chrome..69i59j69i57j0l4.6558j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Obama could be worth as much as $6.9 million

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/15/obama-net-worth-2014/27402933/

Clinton Family Worth

2014 family Income: $28 million
Estimated family net worth: $110 million

http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/hillary-clinton-net-worth-finances/

Yes... The Clinton's are frauds.

Too bad neither Bernie nor Biden will be the next President.
23) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810247)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
IE: The Poster (you know who he is). Who has continually attacked Christians. Attack those, who attack Muslims, as Bigots. Then, I asked, why isn't he a 'Bigot' against Christians?


So, you're saying he cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundametalist Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.

BTW, OzzFan was a mod 9 years ago, so he and I go way back. He may go further back with the poster you do not wish to name than you do.

Sarge...

The 'Poster' I mentioned, wasn't OzzFan.

The 'Poster' and I. Also go back a long time. With great disagreements.

With Clinton or Trump, we'll get more of the same: flood up economics.

Yes Sarge. I agree.
24) Message boards : Politics : Who has been the best U.S. President in your lifetime? (Message 1810244)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Considering all the presidents in history, if you could do a switcheroo and take one president from one time period and put him another time period, who would it be, and why?

Agree with WinterKnight regarding the Presidential Founding Fathers.

Not including them:

#1 - Lincoln at anytime.

#2 - FDR. After Lincoln, at anytime.

#3 - Truman. During time of International Problems.

#4 - 'Teddy' Roosevelt. After Truman, during time of International Problems.

Today? Any of the four listed above.

Excepting Lincoln, and the Founding Fathers. I would not be happy with any 19th Century Presidents, being President today.

20th and 21st century Presidents acceptable today, in order:

'Teddy' Roosevelt, Reagan, Eisenhower, Kennedy: Yes

Bill Clinton, Bush Sr.: Just OK.

None of the rest.
25) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810142)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Were you stating that you seriously doubt that none of those Americans Trump represents know anything about Muslim history?

Of course not.
I believe many of Trump's voters are not so ignorant that Trump is.
There are even some muslims that are going to vote for him.
Former Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has praised him for instance:)
But “Not that I’m for Mr. Trump,” he added, “but I like what I’m looking at.”

Then how much do muslim peoples know about their own history?
Or anyone for that matter.

But Trump is going to be the leader of the "Free World".
That's a scary thought.

There are a myriad of reasons behind the support for Trump. Some valid.

But Trump is going to be the leader of the "Free World".
That's a scary thought.

Yes.
26) Message boards : Politics : Who has been the best U.S. President in your lifetime? (Message 1810140)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Who has been the best U.S. President in your lifetime?

Truman to Obama:

Truman #1. Reagan a close second. (Including all their faults).

Kennedy, if he had lived. Understanding he started horribly, but publicly taking responsibilities for his initial failures (Bay of Pigs, et al).

Was on his way to greatness.
27) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810128)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Hi Bobby, et al.

You guys/gals really cannot understand, nor admit, to the reality of your belief's.

Agreeing with the 'problems', but being unable to understand the following:

Any 'solution', which only imposes another form of Bigotry, Racial Preferences, et al, against other Individuals, in another Targeted Group. Is as evil as the original Bigotry.

IE: The Poster (you know who he is). Who has continually attacked Christians. Attack those, who attack Muslims, as Bigots. Then, I asked, why isn't he a 'Bigot' against Christians?

This started a continuous attack against me. Without answering an important question.

When I point out those who believe in an Acceptable and/or Necessary Bigotry, to solve a problem. IE: The yelling and screaming White/Jewish Preference, Men are..., etc. I am continually attacked (but laughing and smiling at them, all the time). While they never address these important issues.

The type of attacks against my beliefs. Only confirms the above.

I do apologize to those who have to read their continuous and 'Not to Subject' attacks. We do know who 'they' are.

However... As a believer in Free Speech. Not Orwellian Acceptable Speech.

We must endure, for the sake of our freedoms, them.
28) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810052)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Does his brain really work like this?!

Gary...

Yes it does.
29) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810051)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Please stop telling others what they think and how they think. Again, before you condemn them, make sure they actually think the way you're stating first.

OzzFan...

Gary and I go back a long way. Yes, unlike you, I do know what he thinks, and why he posts in the manner he does. And Gary also understands me.

We do disagree greatly.

But we do respect the rights of other Posters, to feel free to be themselves, and Post in the manner they wish.

Note: Sorry to the other Posters for replying to OzzFan, in the same manner he does to others.

Now... Back to Subject.
30) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809996)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
It is far easier to be a bigot if you know nothing about the people you hate. Every bit of knowledge makes them more human and thus harder to hate.

And if they hate you, and must convert/educate you?

Why can't they also be bigots? Why aren't they responsible for their negatives?

Gary...

Give us a break.


Of the ones that hate you (which means not all Muslims), who says they aren't bigoted too? Gary most certainly didn't say anything of the sort.

CLYDE, why do you always do this? Gary, or anyone, makes a comment that seems to strike a nerve with you, and you suddenly add words to his position, then tell him to give you a break.

It's when you do things like this that make it so difficult to have a decent conversation with you. You've said in the past that you find Gary not worthy of being an intellectual opponent, but you yourself are not showing intelligence when you pull stunts like this.

At the very least, ask if they believe what you're accusing them of first before you go off on them.

OzzFan...

Please stop excusing those who only attack one group for...

And doesn't admit all have negatives.

Gary, by intimating that the reason for negatives against against a group, is the bigotry by another group. May, in this instance, be incorrect.

Sorry you may agree with Gary.

I am not sorry that I believe all peoples should be held to the same standard. I, for one, will hold any Muslim accountable for the same evil action, speech, etc., committed by a Christian.

And will not claim Anti-Christian Bigotry. Caused any Christian's evil.

All are responsible for their evil, and the consequences.
31) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809931)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
It is far easier to be a bigot if you know nothing about the people you hate. Every bit of knowledge makes them more human and thus harder to hate.

And if they hate you, and must convert/educate you?

Why can't they also be bigots? Why aren't they responsible for their negatives?

What about them is inferior to you, and therefore not responsible (unlike The West) for their own negatives?

Why do some Western people believe that they are superior to... And therefore ALL bigotries, intolerance, etc., are the West's Fault?

Oh, I didn't understand this: Those that hate Modern Western Tolerance, Western Individual Freedoms, et al. Were Perfect Humans. Who were only corrupted by The West.

Gary...

Give us a break.
32) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809899)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Islam would perhaps fit better, if more people knew anything about it other than blind hate.

My guess is that Western, Non-Muslim people and leaders. Forget their own history.

I suggest, for an introduction to this topic. Reading Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates by Don Yeager. Copyright 2015.

I shows both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, shocked by the beliefs (still in place today) by highly educated Muslims. During the USA's war against the Tripoli Pirates in the early 1800's.
33) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809767)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Trumps 'Proposals' are these:
I will bring back the Middle Class.
I will stop Losing Manufacturing Jobs. Which are only enriching The International Capitalists.
I will bring these jobs back.

What?
How can he promise something that he know himself is impossible?
Unless of course if the american manufacturing workers are willing to work with less salary than the minimum wage...
If Wal-Mart Can't Bring Manufacturing Back to America, How Can Trump?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-14/wal-mart-s-owls-have-returned-to-america-but-the-jobs-haven-t

Let's face it.
Manufacturing jobs are lost not only in the US but also in most European countries.

janne...

These are his promises. Nothing more, nothing less.

BTW: Trump is apparently promoting Historical (Pre WWI II) American Isolationism. Both Politically and Economically.
34) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809659)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
A frightened people, will usually respond positively to this 'message .


One can be concerned and "afraid" of the future for the country if things continue on the current path without being "frightened" in the sense of being ineffectual scardy cats.

Everyone is an individual, when in the Voting Booth. They have only one vote.

Some join 'groups', or support individuals, who promote Change and Betterment. Not understanding that Change and Betterment, are not the same.

Nothing new is happening today. That has not happened since the dawn of Human Civilization.

Hopefully... The USA will be able to postpone for a long time, and for the sake of Western Civilization. Its inevitable decent into Dictatorship, and eventual Collapse.
35) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1809629)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Having not much time today, I just read what were the main points of Trump's speech yesterday on immigration control, and am left wondering what is saying that's new.

Can anybody explain what he proposes that isn't already in place, or is he just saying Obama's immigration controls are OK and there would be no change if he wins.

Trumps 'Proposals' are these:

I will bring back the Middle Class.

I will stop Losing Manufacturing Jobs. Which are only enriching The International Capitalists.

I will bring these jobs back.

I will stop Illegal Immigration.

I will not allow Cultures, which are not compatible with our Modern Western Culture. To Destroy our Freedoms.

I will make you safe.

I will make America Great Again.

I will...

WinterKnight...

Doesn't matter if many (most?) of his specific proposals are (fill-in the negatives).

As history teaches us: A frightened people, will usually respond positively to this 'message'.
36) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1809311)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
For this being a thread about 'Hell'ary, there sure is a LOT of chatter about the Don. I said it before, neither is worthy of a vote.

Peace! :)

Possibly combined to Next President of America?
37) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1809310)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
Reports at NYT and Newsweek say Pence will release tax details

Capitalist Trump's Tax Records will not determine who will be President.

Capitalists are not held to the same standards expected, but not realized, by those holding high office.

Yes... A President, Secretary of State, Attorney General, SCOTUS, etc. Are held to a higher standard than a Capitalist, or other Private Citizen.

Yes... Any Crime, Incompetency, Gross Error in Judgement, etc. Committed by a High Office Holder. Will be judged more severely, than those committed by a Private Citizen.

Hillary's problem.
38) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1809139)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
MK...

Understanding the best Candidate doesn't always win.

Which States, and their Total Electoral Vote, would Johnson win?

How does he realistically win a majority of Electoral votes?
39) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1808897)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

WinterKnight...

Most?

As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist?

See The Problem?
40) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1808740)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
BTW: I was invited to that Trump Rally, here in Florida. By one of my Son-in Laws. He is important in Florida's Republican Party, and Pro-Trump.

Despite my views regarding Trump. Which he knows. I thought it would be 'fascinating'.

Unfortunately... Couldn't make it.

Afterwards... My Son-in Law said he is more committed to working for Trump's Election.

Oh well :(


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