Posts by CLYDE

1) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1874163)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Abstinence ain't in our genes ;-)


Lol, I think just about everybody here can agree with you on that. :~)

So let's legislate against the consequences.

Absolutely, new law, all males must be locked into chastity devices.

Sizes? :-D

BTW: Off on vacation for a couple of weeks.
2) Message boards : Politics : The difference or oddities between the US and Europe (Message 1874162)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Supreme Court sides with The Slants, rules ban on offensive names is unconstitutional
In an 8-0 ruling...
The case centered on Oregon-based, Asian-American band The Slants, which was denied a trademark because its name was considered offensive. The band countered that the 70-year-old law at issue violates free-speech rights -- and Justice Samuel Alito, in the court’s opinion, agreed.
“The commercial market is well stocked with merchandise that disparages prominent figures and groups, and the line between commercial and non-commercial speech is not always clear, as this case illustrates. If affixing the commercial label permits the suppression of any speech that may lead to political or social ‘volatility,’ free speech would be endangered,” he wrote.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/19/supreme-court-sides-with-slants-rules-ban-on-offensive-names-is-unconstitutional.html
In the U.S., Offensive Speech. Even if it leads to "political or social ‘volatility'". Must, for all our freedoms, be protected.
Many in Europe and some here, will disagree.

LOL:)
That our Supreme Courts should even bother to rule in such a silly case never happens in the Nordic Countries.
I don't think any country in Europe. Not even Russia:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yNnmsrLkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Eswa5jQgs

Left Wing defined 'Hate Speech', is also protected?

BTW: Off on Vacation for a couple of weeks.
3) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1874090)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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I think abstinence, while unrealistic in most cases, is probably the best answer, going forward.

Abstinence just doesn't work. Just look at the rates in Texas where abstinence is vigorously supported by the Governor.

Oh I know it's nice to preach it, but not very effective. I'm just saying if we really wanted to stop the arguing about the topic, abstinence is the best way. There's not going to be a 100% acceptable answer, otherwise.

Abstinence ain't in our genes ;-)
4) Message boards : Politics : The difference or oddities between the US and Europe (Message 1874088)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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United States Supreme Court sides with The Slants, rules ban on offensive names is unconstitutional

In an 8-0 ruling...

The case centered on Oregon-based, Asian-American band The Slants, which was denied a trademark because its name was considered offensive. The band countered that the 70-year-old law at issue violates free-speech rights -- and Justice Samuel Alito, in the court’s opinion, agreed.

“The commercial market is well stocked with merchandise that disparages prominent figures and groups, and the line between commercial and non-commercial speech is not always clear, as this case illustrates. If affixing the commercial label permits the suppression of any speech that may lead to political or social ‘volatility,’ free speech would be endangered,” he wrote.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/19/supreme-court-sides-with-slants-rules-ban-on-offensive-names-is-unconstitutional.html

In the U.S., Offensive Speech. Even if it leads to "political or social ‘volatility'". Must, for all our freedoms, be protected.

Many in Europe and some here, will disagree.
5) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1874083)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Additionally, I don't understand why Jane Doe from Tinytown, USA getting an abortion is of any concern of every Pro-Lifer. They sure don't care about that child after it's born, and they sure don't want to have any social safety-net programs to help that unwanted child into adulthood.

As I have said: Applies to some. Doesn't apply to others.

Just as when a Pro Lifer accuses all Pro Women's Rights defenders of (fill-in the negatives).

Applies to some. Doesn't apply to others.
6) Message boards : Politics : Shocking! (Message 1874049)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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...more questions
Commoners mean nothing, the profits of the lords must be protected at every cost! Sounds like Rump and the EPA, OSHA, etc on this side of the pond.

Add the Corrupt Democrats and Republicans.
7) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1874048)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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I am in so many ways, much more long-winded when expressing my views. Much more so than others here, and I do have to admit to occasionally struggling a bit to identify the points you make amidst so many of your questions, Clyde, but I have enjoyed our chat so far, thank you :)

anniet...

Questions are one way to enlarge a discussion, that has degenerated into name calling accusations.

My opinions (points) are very basic, and come from the following:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

--- George Santayana

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

- -- Lord Acton

And mine:

Any Power you confer upon your Friends. Will eventually be controlled by your Enemies.

Those that consider themselves 'Superior' to 'The People'. Have, and will always, commit the greatest crimes against humanity.

anniet...

In all probability. There will be a personally attacking 'response' post from.... Well... Guessing we would come up with the same names.

If not. This Atheist will Thank God for small favors.
8) Message boards : Politics : Shocking! (Message 1874013)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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:)
9) Message boards : Politics : Shocking! (Message 1874011)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Having been involved in these situations. In a few days, all or almost all, are accounted for.

So now you're a qualified fire investigator?

The senior fire officer has already stayed that "some" will never be identified or found due to the intensity of the fire.

Sorry to the other posters for responding to Sirius B's silly attacks.

Sirius B...

#1 - Police, in these situations. Work in conjunction with the Fire Department, regarding possible unaccounted persons.

#2 - In New York City. There were many fires of total intensity, We were able, despite Total Involvement, to account for almost all people (dead or alive). Including homeless, undocumented, visitors, hiding from the law, et al. It is not difficult. Just time consuming.

#3 - I cannot speak to the competency of other Cities.

#4 - Returning to dismissing your posts.
10) Message boards : Politics : Shocking! (Message 1874008)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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You assume that everyone wants to be accounted for, has not decided to vanish, gone off to Great Aunt Fredda just down the road - all this makes the correlation with any occupancy list in an uncontrolled (and uncontrollable) multiplication civilian building, especially when there has been a totally uncontrolled evacuation which in this case was underway in the few minutes the emergency services arrived.

Having been involved in these situations. In a few days, all or almost all, are accounted for.
11) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE (Message 1874007)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Putin and the Kremlin would be well advised not to engage a US jet, don't test Sec Mattis,
"I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f*#k with me, I’ll kill you all."

And now.
What's #45's next step?

Hope he has A Plan.

Yes... Just hope.
12) Message boards : Politics : The difference or oddities between the US and Europe (Message 1874004)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Do you have public transportation's in the US.
Here are how it works in the Nordic countries in Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vk0aClcxhk

Depends upon the State and Region.

In New York City, you don't need a car.

Here in Florida, Public Transportation is a joke.
13) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873993)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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But until there is consensus within the medical profession and other fields of science, we can only go with what they recommend. For me personally, were I to consider having an abortion, my concern would be that the baby-that-might-have-been :( that I felt unable to have, would suffer no pain, or conscious knowledge that it was "alive" at all. The only way we might ever know for sure at what point during cell division and/or cell differentiation that is - would be through permitting the kind of "experiments" just too awful to contemplate.

There will, I'm sure, never be agreement on the moral and ethical issues that termination elicits - but to opt for just one way, or the other - and dictate that as a one-size fits all, to me feels wrong.

anniet...

Pain and conscious knowledge, is also my concern. When does consciousness begin? We don't yet know.

Also agree that "one-size fits all, that is advocated by many on both sides, "feels wrong".
14) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE (Message 1873990)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Russia cuts deconfliction channel with Washington after US downs Syrian jet
Russia will regard any flights within the area of its air force group's operation in Syria as legitimate targets
http://tass.com/defense/952119
- What if this is not an aggression? It is also a support for the terrorists the United States seems to be fighting against, says Deputy Defense Minister Sergey Ryabkov about the displaced Syrian jet, according to the Russian State News Agency Tass.

Always trust the Russian's :)
15) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE (Message 1873985)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Pentagon: US shoots down Syrian aircraft for first time

"The U.S. military on Sunday shot down a Syrian Air Force fighter jet that bombed local forces aligned with the Americans in the fight against Islamic State militants, an action that appeared to mark a new escalation of the conflict.
The U.S. had not shot down a Syrian regime aircraft before Sunday's confrontation..."

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDefault/*/Article_2017-06-18-US--United%20States-Syria/id-8a92d6bae00846daa1d1bbf8ab54c719

Appears Trump is escalating our involvement.
16) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873984)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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I'm a little at a loss as to why you expect anyone here to know exactly when life begins, Clyde. It's been a question debated for centuries. Aristotle was of the view that male life started 40 days after conception and female, 90 days. Viability of a foetus (when it can survive outside of the womb) is now possible at shorter gestation periods, but only thanks to technological developments.

anniet...

Thank you for your intelligent, insightful, and non personal attack post.

When does life begin is the foundation of this Topic. Dismissing the personal attacker's, and Gary who believes Human Life is "moot". I will continue to post the following opinion.

"There are morally and ethically competing interests regarding this topic.
Women's Rights vs. Human Life.
Either position carries with it ethical and moral problems."

Nothing more, nothing less.

anniet...

I am a Pro Women's Right's Advocate. Including Government Funding for women who wish, or for medical or emotional reasons, need to terminate their pregnancy.

But... I do acknowledge there are important ethical and moral issues from many on the 'other side'.
17) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873918)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Yes Gary and Bet Rigger. I do thank both of you for exposing the reality of your beliefs.

Clyde, I can not speak for Gary but I find involuntary servitude, slavery to be immoral. so the question becomes is your immorality better or worse than mine? If you pass judgement I ask who made you God?
IMO the way out of that conundrum is to let the woman make the decision and allow her to deal with the consequences.

Bet Rigger...

Why is it so hard to understand this: There are morally and ethically competing interests regarding this topic.

Women's Rights vs. Human Life.

Either position carries with it ethical and moral problems.

Acknowledging the above. Does not warrant the type of attacks we are witnessing here.
18) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873916)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Until it is established that society can tell a woman what to do with her body, when life begins is moot.

Gary, Clyde apparently believes making a woman a slave is ethical during certain parts of their lives.

Bet Rigger...

Keep up the slave attack against a person who was not aborted. And one who does not, as Gary believes, that Human Life is "moot".

Loving wonderful and necessary exposing your and gary's Anti Human Life position.

Keep it up :-D :-D :-D
19) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873914)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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No, the question is: Does society have a right to tell a woman what to do with her body? If the answer is yes, then society has a right to tell a man what to do with his body. Slavery! But slavery was moral back 2000 years ago when the fairy was invented.

No. the question is: When does Human Life begin?

Wrong. Until it is established that society can tell a woman what to do with her body, when life begins is moot.

Human Life is "moot"?

Yes Gary and Bet Rigger. I do thank both of you for exposing the reality of your beliefs.

Yes JaundicedEye. You now understand what has been attacking you.

Yes Mr. Kevvy. You were correct regarding this Topic.
20) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1873896)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile CLYDEProject Donor
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Doesn't society and the individuals involved, have the obligation to protect that Human Life?

And use another against their wishes, That's slavery.

Depends when one believes Human Life begins.

betreger...

Nowhere, is protecting a Human Life, Slavery.

If one believes that Human Life begins, in let's say the Third Trimester. Then, as many States do, you severely limit a woman's reason to have an abortion. You believe that is slavery?

BTW: Understanding that betreger's description is irrelevant to a moral, ethical and intelligent discussion of this issue.

As a Pro Women's Rights Advocate Who believes if needed, taxpayer funding for women who wish an abortion.

Both sides, leaving out the attacking posts, must understand that any position. Carries with it, a moral and ethical dilemma, in attempting to balance the Rights of Women with the Right to Life.


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