Posts by Leopoldo

21) Message boards : Number crunching : AndyK pending tool........... (Message 941987)
Posted 22 Oct 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Hosting I can do, tweaking, not a chance.

Not a "tweaking", just a small correction will be needed from time to time (at a time of SETI@home "tasks" webpage changes - for example, recent SETI staff's change was the addition of "Run time" column between the "Status" and "CPU time" columns and I changed the script accordingly)...

If You will have no time to: 1) examine the "Tasks" SETI webpage changes and 2) change the main script file "pc_functions_inc.php" accordingly to reflect such changes, then I can look at webpages and suggest a small changes to the script (or even I can suggest new version of the whole file - probably it will be easier to upload the new whole file than to edit the hosted script file and upload?). I did it before and I'm hoping to find differences easily again. It's harder to say than to do it ;)

Of course, my such finding and interpreting work doesn't matter without Your help to hosting providing and uploading new files to Your site. I (and I hopes, not only I'm) would appreciate Your hosting/uploading efforts.

P.S. I don't like to insert huge changes into working program created by another person, so I can guarantee what my changes will be minimal, such as an additional one or two lines of code or even change of several characters into one line.

P.P.S. And, of course, excuse me for my bad English please - I had no live experience on it, just Windows messages, games and several movies...
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WBW, Leopoldo
22) Message boards : Number crunching : (another) dumb CUDA question (Message 933794)
Posted 16 Sep 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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I have Hyperthreading enabled and "use 4 cpu's" set on the pref's page ... will I have 2 or 3 SETI's running??

Version 6.6.36 will use website setting 6.1+ "On multiprocessors, use at most" - "100 % of the processors", not the "5.10 and earlier" setting, so you will have on your P4 with hyperthreading and 8400GS 3 tasks running - 2 CPU (multibeam workunits marked as version 6.03 or astropulse workunits) + 1 GPU (multibeam version 6.08).

You can check this in the windows task manager: 2 tasks "AK_v8b_win_SSSE3x.exe", each using about of 47% processor and one task "MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_noKill_FPLim2048.exe" nearly of 5%.

Edit: the next CUDA problem requires your attention - the VLAR-processing, when the whole windows system becomes too inresponsive - even simple windows redraws very slowly...

Now you are using MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe which will kill every VLAR workunit assigned to it (look at executable name ;) ) - this behavior is good for system of fire-and-forget type (no babysitting required). If you wish to lost no any received workunit (and thus your system will no receive WU limit penalty) - then check threads about resheduling/rebranding at this Number crunching forum or at Lunatics corresponding thread.
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WBW, Leonid
23) Message boards : Number crunching : (another) dumb CUDA question (Message 933762)
Posted 16 Sep 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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9/16/2009 9:37:18 AM SETI@home Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.

Hello, Edward!

SET@home project have its own preferences at address http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project
Did you set "Use Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) if available" to "yes" before the Unified Installer?

After Unified Installer completed its work you launched BOINC. BOINC asked for work from server and received no CUDA-marked workunits (version 6.08)
You saw this situation and relaunched BOINC - and, BOINC itself (as having no CUDA-workunits) silently deleted mentioned in app_info files MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe, cudart.dll, cufft.dll and libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll from project folder. It's old BOINC behaviour, I saw it before... And, because of this files doesn't exists at BOINC servers (Unified Installer is from Lunatics site, you remember?), the attempts of downloading them fails.

Moreover, missing files leads to errors like your:
<core_client_version>6.6.36</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe</file_name>
<error_code>-197</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
<error_code>-197</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
<error_code>-197</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
<error_code>-197</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>
]]>

What can you do?

  • First, check preference "Use GPU if available" at website to "yes".
  • Then stop the BOINC by menu items File -> Exit If BOINC asks for, confirm of stopping the science applications.
  • Then launch again the Unified Installer. It reinstalls the needed files.
  • Then check the existance of corresponding files MB_6.08_CUDA_V12_VLARKill_FPLim2048.exe, cudart.dll, cufft.dll and libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll into the E:\BoincProjects\ProjectData\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder.
  • If they exists there, made copy of them into any other folder (as the backup) launch BOINC again, in other explorer window check the existance of these files again (if files will be deleted again after the BOINC start - then set website preferences about GPU to "no" - to not drop your WU limit - and ask at forum to check your app_info)



P.S. And excuse me please for my bad English

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WBW, Leonid

24) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (23) Server problems (Message 928760)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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No panic at all, just a general comment..

Did something change recently (barring no tech news update after the outage)? I requested work and got 22 new tasks instead of 20.


Something changed...

26-Aug-2009 12:42:00 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 39 new tasks
26-Aug-2009 14:16:51 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 63 new tasks
26-Aug-2009 14:31:41 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 35 new tasks
26-Aug-2009 14:32:28 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 36 new tasks
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Projects in which you are participating list (Message 927099)
Posted 19 Aug 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Im runnning 5 projects at the moment but on each of their sites under project which im participating in it only shows seti and climatechange. How to you get the others to show?

Hello, Lee!

Other projects will be added there automatically (project list refreshes once per day) the day after your account will have non-zero in particular project. Just wait.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Need some advice (help) (Message 925807)
Posted 13 Aug 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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I've been getting s display driver has stopped responding and recovered message. Is their any way to fix this problem?

User solutions: www.nvlddmkm.com

Detailed description from MS: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105/en-us

I'm using the 32-bit patch from above MS-link (my 32-bit Vista have no SP1) and the setting "Performance" user mode in 3D section (with preview) of the nVidia Control Panel. Never saw "stopped responding and recovered" since that time.
27) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : Errors with optimised apps (Message 922650)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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After app init: total GPU memory 536543232 free GPU memory 205757696

It seems like your videocard has too little free videomemory for CUDA-processing... Did you try a reboot and saw the next completed result after the reboot? You should find what is eating your videomemory...

For example, my Vista eats much less videomemory:
Total GPU memory 805306368 free GPU memory 691068928

28) Message boards : Number crunching : app_info for AP503, AP505, MB603 and MB608 (Message 922471)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Any news yet on a new multiplier for MB6.08 with CUDA 2.3. I believe there was a remark in a thread a few days ago about this (Richard?).

I did miss this thread but after looking into completion time I'm using multiplier factor of 14/9 now to increase my old value (nearly 9 minutes with version 2.3 versus 14 min at 2.2 - 8800 Ultra)

DCF now is 1.10

I'll look further...
29) Message boards : Number crunching : seti@home calcul ? (Message 922469)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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...
<rsc_fpops_est>162909758835370.000000</rsc_fpops_est>
<rsc_fpops_bound>1629097588353700.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>


For me much simplier is to see into workunit header for the <chirp_resolution>
(new has 0.1665, old had 0.333) but I think the original question was
answered and we understood each other clearly ;)
Good luck!

P.S. And excuse me please for my bad English - I'm only a computer technician and
I studied English only from the point of view of computer phrases :( I have no live
experience in this area...
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WBW, Leonid
30) Message boards : Number crunching : seti@home calcul ? (Message 922376)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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...
duree: 4h07
...
duree: 7h17
...
TEST ?

No, resolution of new MB workunits had been changed and processing time is doubled also (both on CPU and GPU), please see the thread Longer MB tasks are here
31) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA 2.3 and bigger MB (Message 922373)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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How fast is everyone completing these tasks in?

With CUDA 2.3 new MB workunits (chirp 0.17) are calculated at 19 minutes, while old (chirp 0.33) did at 9.5 min. (with CUDA 2.2 old MB workunits did at 14 min)

NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 Ultra (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.0, 768MB, est. 69GFLOPS)

No overclocking.
32) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA RT2.3 available - upgrade highly recommended (Message 922372)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Is the cudart.dll in the program files\boinc folder not used ?

Excuse me, but I don't know this exactly (I have an my own opinion - cudart.dll from Program Files folder is used for GPU speed calculation, because text line like "NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 Ultra (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.0, 768MB, est. 69GFLOPS)" posts before the start of any project)

I had never change anything in Program Files\BOINC, only in project folder (because only specified at app_info.xml files from project folder copied into corresponding slot and executes by the BOINC Manager)...
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (22) Server problems (Message 922082)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Everybody seems to be happy here but I still cannot upload my results from PCs at work. I took the results on my USB key home and it uploded immediately.

This doesn't happen with other applications. They down- and upload nicely without any problem.


Simple check...

What can You see if You do typing http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/file_upload_handler as URL address into your browser?

I see:

<data_server_reply>
    <status>1</status>
    <message>no command</message>
</data_server_reply>


It looks like a normal answer, firewall and DNS are working correctly.
34) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA RT2.3 available - upgrade highly recommended (Message 921914)
Posted 28 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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First of all I would like to say - these libraries are useful for Raistmer's optimized CUDA-application (For example, I'm using MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V11_VLARKill_refined.exe)
Unoptimized (stock) CUDA-application uses an old versions of this nVidia libraries...

@Fred J. Verster: IMHO, these libraries can't work with unoptimized application - so app hangs

How do I get the ' old' cudart & cufft.dll's back?

Libraries for unoptimized (stock) CUDA-application can be downloaded from http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/cudart.dll and http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/cufft.dll

Old libraries for optimized application must be extracted from the old archive with this opti app.

What do I do with them?
Just copy them to the program files\BOINC folder ?

@SmartWombat: If you are using optimized CUDA-application then just unarchive libraries and copy into SETI@home project folder (For example, in Vista default path is C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu)
35) Questions and Answers : GPU applications : CUDA RT2.3 available - upgrade highly recommended (Message 921072)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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For all CUDA crunchers.
Please, upgrade your video drivers to latest WHQL available and CUDA RT DLLs to CUDA RT 2.3.
This could give ~30% (more or less - depending from AR of task) speedup for free ;)


Many thanks, Raistmer!

8800 Ultra - common workunit falls from 14 min to 9 min ;)

To keep DCF at 1.0, "flops" had been changed accordingly :)
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WBW, Leonid
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Changing Stats Log? (Message 921070)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Hello, Gizbar!

...to display a longer time when you access your stats.

"cc_config.xml" file in BOINC Data directory, "options" section, "<save_stats_days>" tag

For example, 360 days period looks like this:

<cc_config>
 <log_flags>
  ...
 </log_flags>
 <options>
  ...
  <save_stats_days>360</save_stats_days>
 </options>
</cc_config>

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WBW, Leonid
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Boinc V6.6.38 available for testing. (Message 920737)
Posted 23 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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These were not the normal "Cannot connect to server, check your internet connection" messages. Boinc Manager was losing contact with boinc.exe. The message was "Cannot connect to CLIENT".

Yes, I had the same connection error.

Earlier I published my lines of stdoutdae.txt (about upload problem) and the lines of stderrdae.txt (the error description).

You can check Your files after killing the boinc.exe...

"nbytes" algorith has been changed in 6.6.38, here is the quote from change log:
- client: changed file upload logic

Old: each upload attempt consists of two HTTP requests:
the 1st to get the current file size on server,
the 2nd to upload the remainder of the file.

Problem:
a) if the upload server is overloaded and requests are succeeding with probability X, then the chance of both requests succeeding is X2. So e.g. a per-request success rate of 0.1 becomes an overall success rate of 0.01.

b) the "get file size" request can be avoided in some cases.

New:
If we've already queried the file size and haven't uploaded any additional bytes, don't query the file size again.


At present time I'm using the .37 (with old upload logic) version again...
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Boinc V6.6.38 available for testing. (Message 920626)
Posted 23 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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I've had two bad episodes that appear to be related to upload changes with V6.6.38...

The problem of .38 is in nbytes change...

23-Jul-2009 14:35:04 [Rectilinear Crossing Number] Started upload of W8_0122_0034_0875_0906.reccount
23-Jul-2009 14:35:06 [Rectilinear Crossing Number] Finished upload of W8_0122_0034_0875_0906.reccount
23-Jul-2009 14:35:06 [Rectilinear Crossing Number] Started upload of W8_0122_0034_0875_0906_18.lmd
23-Jul-2009 14:35:08 [Rectilinear Crossing Number] [error] Error reported by file upload server: nbytes missing or negative
Here boinc.exe had been killed with TaskManager...
23-Jul-2009 14:37:23 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.6.38 for windows_intelx86
23-Jul-2009 14:37:23 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, sched_op_debug


The corresponding part of stderrdae.txt begins with:
Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x004350ED read attempt to address 0x00001CF0

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...



********************


BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger Version 6.6.38


Dump Timestamp : 07/23/09 14:35:08
Loaded Library : dbghelp.dll
Loaded Library : symsrv.dll
Loaded Library : srcsrv.dll
Loaded Library : version.dll
Debugger Engine : 4.0.5.0


Reinstallation of .37 above .38 reverts processing back to normal...
39) Message boards : Number crunching : possible bug (Message 919843)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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Hi!

I thought that it might be their side...

No, BOINC uses reply from website "www.google.com" as indicator of internet availability (AFAIK), but I mentioned inavailability of this address several times (at that times country-specific address "www.google.ru" works pretty well as usual - so I think problem exists at DNS of google, not BOINC).

BTW, according to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration You can set BOINC to check internet access with another address (for example, Your ISP website) - with tag "<network_test_url>URL</network_test_url>" in "options" section of cc_config.xml
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Processing of WUs... (Message 917938)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile Leopoldo
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question, why can't someone take work unit "a" from machine "a" and put into into machine "b" and have machine "b" crunch that work unit and report it...

To prevent cheating


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