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1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437760)
Posted 164 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Goodbye.
2) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437688)
Posted 164 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Blurf, auto-IP detecting? That'd be easy to get around, wouldn't it? One for a computer at home and one for a computer at work.
3) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437562)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
I am sure this is hyperbole. When we asked months back if that was a banishable offense, we were told no. I am sure if the previous poster would review his e-mail records, he would find the screen name was not the reason for it.
4) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437558)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
BTW. If you see a thread of a troll, don't write in this thread.
Just let him write, don't care about.
Don't feed him.
He will die of starvation.

That is about the best advice there is for handling many types of posters.


But you post in my Waiting for Godot threads! :)
5) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437539)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Goodbye.

Computers are on NNT.

PM notice is off.


:(
6) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437537)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Barrel scraping tonight?

ID, you are successfully demonstrating that your argument is circular by using the same flawed sources in an attempt to "prove" two ideas that need to be handled in very different ways.

Others might say you are "spamming" these boards by repeating the same links in such a short period of time, so be aware of this please.


Not might. I do. He put the very same links in his thread and them spammed mine.
7) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1437496)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Intelligent Design
is unscientific, because it is not testable or
falsifiable. It makes claims about events that were not
observed and can never be re-created.

...Sci-Am.


Pssst. THAT thread is over <=== here.
8) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1437473)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
What predictions does "intelligent design theory" make, that can be tested?
If the designer is no longer actively meddling in this Universe does that mean that she's dead?


One of their predictions is "there will be no junk DNA" (and, perhaps, no vestigial organs/appendages?).

If we remove a vestigial tail, does a human no longer function?
9) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437465)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Frankly it is...

in error? Your previous post? Thank you for your admission and good day. :)
10) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437456)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
The previous post is in error.

1) The poster does not provide his own logic, but the arguments of others.
2) It shows a deep misunderstanding of what circular reasoning is.
3) The poster is now on a campaign of "you hate ME, so you ruin my threads". I'm so glad you posted this, because I was strongly thinking of posting the following.

It is you, sir, that have ostracized yourself. You (and Guy) were (both) offered friendship (such as it can be online only) by me, publicly and in private messages. Because I, and others, do not agree with you 100% ... well, maybe a lower percent, because clearly your other ally, with a new name each month or so, does not believe in everything you do ... you insult us and call us enemies. (See Guy's posts regarding Salinsky's rules. He uses the term enemy.

4) This thread is not about evolution. If you wish to discuss evolution and your dislike of it, put it one of your threads.
5) Therefore, your point about people having "faith" in evolution similarly cannot be discussed here.
6) Think hard about what circular reasoning is. Realize that the term "irreducible complexity" assumes the conclusion, and thus, I.D. (as it currently stands) cannot be employing the scientific method.
7) If you cannot discuss #6, "stand silent" until you can.
11) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437421)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Maybe I don't say thank you enough Donald, but I might miss the daily reminder to feed the Animals.
There is Spam and there is SPAM. It is a fine line.

An auto-locked thread could always be re-opened if the thread merits it. :)

Regarding the FreeKibbleKat thread, Thanks, Uli, Chris, and Robert for the kind words. I do seem to have inherited that one from Mark. When he went on time-out during the 1st iteration, I was one of several who were keeping it going until Mark returned, and there were occasional comments from others about the Trivia questions. Not so much any more. This thread is one of Mark's GOOD ones, and both the "banished user" and "7 consecutive posts" rules would have taken out that thread and the good it does. And requesting the Mods to unlock the Thread on a weekly basis seems an unneccesary pain in the rear. As KibbleKat II is now over 400 entries, I'm thinking about opening KibbleKat III under my own sponsorship, with some sort of acknowledgement to Mark, as we do with Beets and Rocky's.

Auto-hiding threads started by "banished" members seems to me a meat-axe solution where a scalpel would suffice - does potentially as much harm as good. SOME of those threads were good ones, with wide participation and enjoyment. Remember when Clayton had all his threads hidden, we were having some real fun in a couple of them, and that went away. And there is the "What are you watching on YouTube today" threads that many of us have posted to, or followed the links and enjoyed. If they don't already have it, I favor giving the Mods the ability to hide whole threads as well as individual posts for unacceptable content, but I think auto-locking "banished user" threads and "X Number of consecutive posts by the same user" goes too far.


Donald:

I used to read and post in the Cafe quite a bit more. Not so much, these days. My "home" here, so to speak, is this Politics and Non-SETI Science fora. Thus, my suggestions were based on recent and ongoing trends in those parts of the message boards. I hadn't even looked at the Kibble thread, though I like cats and in fact "rescued" a feral kitten a year-and-a-half ago. (She's quietly looking out a window right now.)

I seem to recall the auto-hiding of any threads started by banished users being tried at one point. If I am reading your response correctly, I take it you remember that happening as well? You may be right about an axe versus a scalpel. I don't know.

So, though I see no comments from mods on these ideas at the moment (but we have seen a former mod, James, comment), then perhaps if it were by some chance to go forward, maybe the rule could apply to certain fora?

Specifically:

Science (non-SETI)
Discussion of other Science Topics

Politics
Discussion of Political Topics

A thread started and only posted in by one person is not discussion (unless they like the look of their own type or have multiple personalities).
12) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Dark matter/Dark Energy (Message 1437417)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
I think that there are far too many scientists that concoct theories to try to explain what they are observing. This formuala will work if we can find substance X, so lets go looking for X. Perhaps they should be taking the opposite approach. Let's use the LHC to find new particle and stuff, then lets see how they might fit into what we already know.

There is no one single "God Particle" there will be many of them, each one a piece of the unfinished jigsaw. Scientific journals have to make a living. I predict that the LHC over the next few years will find many new particles that change what we already know.


Darn that Leonhard Euler. Why did he spend his Sunday afternoons trying to walk the 7 Bridges of Koenigsberg? Who cares if it had a solution or not? Who cares if this started the field of study known as graph (network) theory? Who cares that it took 100 years or more to bear fruit via applications in such diverse areas as chemistry, scheduling, traffic flow and so on ... . He was just one of those far too many mathematicians trying to solve a silly riddle and concoct new areas of mathematics.
13) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437400)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
I'm still waiting to see 13 threads (including this 1, 12 otherwise) to be moved to a more appropriate forum category. ;-)

Cheers.


This thread is about science. The opening post, and Skil's just before yours, verify this.

I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you there on this point, as this is more a debate on what the definition of science is, not science itself.

But please do notice my remark in brackets as I'm your side as well. ;-)

Cheers.


I do realize you are. However, there is nothing political about what science is.
If the "history of math" was not math, it would be taught in history or political science departments. So, why is taught in a math department? Because it is about math.
14) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437399)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Maybe I don't say thank you enough Donald, but I might miss the daily reminder to feed the Animals.
There is Spam and there is SPAM. It is a fine line.


An auto-locked thread could always be re-opened if the thread merits it. :)
15) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437289)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
I'm still waiting to see 13 threads (including this 1, 12 otherwise) to be moved to a more appropriate forum category. ;-)

Cheers.


This thread is about science. The opening post, and Skil's just before yours, verify this.
16) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437258)
Posted 165 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
The ignore feature would work a lot better if:

1) Rather than hiding the post of someone filtered, but providing the option to un-hide it, just make completely invisible, period. Also, do so for responses that quote the invisible post. (Whether the quote is in the post, use this whenever the quote button was used, where it shows what message number was being responded to.)
2) Make threads created by someone filtered, making it completely invisible as well.

Also, we have people who create threads for their vitriolic rants and raves, then proceed to be the only one posting in the thread. If a thread originator is the only posting in that thread for, say, 10 posts in a row, perhaps the thread should be auto-locked. Why should the S@H message boards be turned into niches for blogs?
17) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1437169)
Posted 166 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Saw that. Hope he accepts.
18) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1437126)
Posted 166 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
Agreed Sarge. But there are also many people that should be banned but aren't.

+1


Many?
19) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1437122)
Posted 166 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
I hereby dedicate this thread to WinterKnight, whatever his final decision may be.
20) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1437120)
Posted 166 days ago by Profile Do Keep Trying
It seems that getting banned is no longer effective as it's becoming a 'badge of honour' so to speak.

It seems that no one is learning from the past. Give the project a good enough excuse and we'll all end up banned. That'll be a sad day indeed.


The "badge of hono(u)r" idea was discussed in 2006 or 2007.
I would have to disagree, at least in this current climate. We know who tends to get banned these days. Since people that tended to get banned before tend not to, or not at all, these days, I would have to say a lot of people have learned from the past. Those that get banned these days are clearly breaking rules and it cannot be a badge of honor if they have no cheering section.


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