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41) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1434933)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
only if you're a reptile

Maybe I am. :)

Some might say you are lower than a reptile's belly. ;)


42) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434916)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Later today I'll see if I remember to post what a #1 (big mac meal) runs in the barrio and the price of a happy meal (with kids toy) runs.

#1 Big Mac Meal US$6.19 + tx
Happy Meal (cheeseburger) US$4.58 + tx
tax is 9.0%, minimum wage US$8.00 at the location.
43) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434854)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Gary, a carbon tax is something that gives the government more power and authority over its citizens. This is a good thing from the perspective of many in here. It is a regressive tax. This is a bad thing from the perspective of those same many in here.

Yes it is regressive. Extremely so. It is a tax on consumption of a necessity of life. Of course it isn't direct, so I suppose some ignore it and still advocate it, while railing against other regressive taxes.

Looks like we're both trying to instigate some long-term thinking in here. I commend you for that. Sometimes I feel I'm beating a dead horse. I feel compelled to keep trying for some reason though.

Not just long term thinking, but a realization that a lot of what is being thrown out has been tried before and it didn't work. The sole exception seems to be the 40% corporate tax rate with the 80% personal income tax rate. I suppose that is because those rates were high enough to be on the other side of the Laffer curve.

The lesson to take it that tax policy changes in general do not work long term. Money is smart enough to simply find a different loophole to use. Short term it has to look for it and then it takes a couple years to shift around to exploit it. Long term however tax changes are blips.

Unfortunately this view doesn't go well with political slogans and the blame game. Technical changes just happen, no one is at fault. It is much harder to get pissed at Fedex existing and being able to ship that widget from a third world factory for less than the price difference of labor between the third world and the USA. Of course Fedex creates a lot of nice near minimum wage jobs delivering those widgets.
44) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434832)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Later today I'll see if I remember to post what a #1 (big mac meal) runs in the barrio and the price of a happy meal (with kids toy) runs.
45) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434799)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Another hard question:

Which is better for Main Street?
A) You buy a washing machine with a 1 year warranty that lasts 5 years.
B) You buy a washing machine with a 5 year warranty that lasts until your children get sick of looking at it.

Oh, and what is the price difference?


(A is obviously better for Wall Street.)

<ed>Didn't see an answer to my previous hard question: Is a Carbon Tax regressive?
46) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434795)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Its our politicians who fisted us. They should be called to answer for it.

Thank Reagan.


No thank YOU democrat houses and senates since 1913.

Funny how the national debt was stable and fairly low until Reagan sold Congress and the US people the Supplyside/"trick"ledown lie. Reagan won by a landslide so he could do no wrong. We get it the Gipper can't be blamed for being irresponsible because congress wrote it. Yet it was all about him and because of him we owe and owe and owe. We've had 20 of the last 33 years dealing with the same failed policies. Can we agree that Tricklingdown and supply siding failed. Being that can we never ever try that again.

Transitory blip ...
http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/pikettyqje.pdf wrote:
Our long-term series place the TRA86 episode in a longer
term perspective. Feenberg and Poterba [1993, 2000], looking at
the top 0.5 percent income shares series ending in 1992 (respectively,
1995), argued that the surge after TRA86 appeared permanent.
However, completing the series up to 1998 shows that
the significant increase in the top marginal tax rate, from 31 to
39.6 percent, enacted in 1993 on did not prevent top shares from
increasing sharply.19 From that perspective, looking at Figures II
and III, the average increase in top shares from 1985 to 1994 is
not significant higher than the increase from 1994 to 1998 or
from 1978 to 1984. As a result, it is possible to argue that TRA86
produced no permanent surge in top income shares, but only a
transitory blip.

... if it was transitory blip on the income side, that would mirror taxes ergo congress must have a spending problem.
47) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434774)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Guy, then you disagree with the concept of diminishing marginal utility. That will get you a failing grade in all micro economics courses.

I'll remind you that Deleware has an income tax rate of around 4%. Seems odd that Texas Parade around a premise that income tax is bad sales tax is good.

Please note that the 4% is the starting point for the Deleware income tax make more pay a little more etc. The wonderfully sneaky fact is that tax paid is deductable straight off the top of your federal income. So in essense you aren't getting taxed on the tax.

You can itemize your sales tax and if it hits critical mass you can send in a 1040. Good luck getting the average person to keep every receipt through the year in an attempt to deduct it. Again, simplicity and ease of use go hand in hand with the Income tax. Frankly, I get tired of Ignorant Texans bragging that they don't pay income tax. I also get tired of explaining how 4% is much lower than 6.25 or even 8.25%

Both the rich person and the poor person can buy the same thing with one dollar. If one person has fewer than the next person and wants more, then that person needs to do something about it other than to complain he doesn't have as many as the next person.

And there are too many gaps in logic with whatever you're trying to say about taxes and Delaware. I noticed you didn't mention anything about the local property taxes in Delaware. And I noticed you didn't mention anything about the standard formula available for use to estimate the amount of sales tax in Texas to deduct from your taxable income. I don't know what you're trying to say.

And as for ignorant Texans, I won't claim all Texans are smart, but I'll take an ignorant Texan over just about anybody else on the east coast or the west coast.

It seems your only argument is that people should get off their lazy low paid asses and get a better job. What you neglect to say is that there are only so many well paying jobs. There are however many more low paying jobs for people with little or no education, a criminal record or low IQ. Thats not to say we dont have a problem with low IQ at higher paying jobs.
You can make a one man stand that a dollar to a rich man is worth less than it is to a poor man. You'd also be surprised at how much more a low income person goes through to earn that dollar and his need for the most efficent use of that dollar. A rich man will buy what he wants because he knows he has plenty of cash to throw at his bills/troubles. A poor man must be frugal with every penny unless they want to be living without heat,lights or a roof over their head.

It saddens me to hear some incredibly self righteous claptrap about "just go make more money" argument. Some people just can't and that is that. Please stop insisting that they just need more money to solve their problem with not having more money. It's a silly circular argument.

A MickieDees observation ...
At the outlet in the hood, you know it is in the hood because the menu prices are up $1, when the beggar works the room just about everyone gives him something.
At the outlet in the middle class area, prices on the board are $1 less, the beggar is lucky if he can get anyone to give him a dime.

Does this mean?
A) Middle class are greedy bastards
B) Poor are poor because they give it away
C) The middle class are struggling much worse than we know
D) Government programs make the poor rich
or
E) The poor have been there and remember what it means to not have enough money for a meal
48) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434770)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
gabba gabba doo doo . whatevs narf
what are we doing tonight Brain?

Same thing we do every night pinkie,
try and take over the world.

49) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1434769)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
“We should have zero tolerance for issues like this,” Olson said. “We have zero tolerance policies for weapons, a kid who bites a Pop Tart into a gun or has a Hello Kitty bubble-maker will be suspended or expelled if they have those sorts of things…”
What if i make a trebuchet from a plastic ruler? (I.e. flick something...) can i be expelled for that?
Ludicrous!

Probably persecuted for possession of a weapon on school grounds, 10 to 20.
50) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434738)
Posted 172 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
UPI - Fast-food wages costly to taxpayers

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Consumer-Corner/2013/10/27/Fast-food-wages-costly-to-taxpayers/UPI-96621382867940/?spt=hts&or=5

more bitching about symptoms. why? what makes adults take the job?
51) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1434652)
Posted 173 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Teacher Unions know what is best ...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/23/teachers-unions-fight-bill-that-would-bar-sex-offenders-from-schools/
Teachers' unions fight bill that would bar sex offenders from schools
A bipartisan bill that would stop convicted sex offenders from working in schools has been passed by the House but is running into a foe as it heads to the Senate: major teachers' unions like the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers.

52) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434494)
Posted 173 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
The mathematician in me has objections to the new different meaning.

Gary, you hit the nail on the head. Economics is not math, it is the social science which attempts to describe how goods and services are produced and distributed it is not math but it does use a lot of math as a tool.

Science is describable by mathematics.
Social science should be rigorous - hence the science as part of its name. Socialism is those poor huddled masses, the government must help them.

Unfortunately, that definition attempts to be both.
53) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434357)
Posted 173 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
BTW would a days work for the government be progressive or regressive? ;)


That would be progressive, wouldn't it? Because a day's work from a rich person would be worth more than a day's work from a poor person, right?

Depends on the scale used I'm suspect, job function or personal rate.

Now a tough question, is a carbon tax regressive?
54) Message boards : Politics : UK Utilities in a mess (Message 1434356)
Posted 173 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Love the carbon tax.
55) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 10 Years Here, What You Got! (Message 1434209)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Oh my, I was way wrong about how many signed up on the day I did. Perhaps the number I remember is how many stuck around and got BOINC credit. Don't remember.
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/days/2451904.html
56) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434193)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier

Realized I didn't address it. It is trying to define a new and different meaning to an accepted word

Gary, on this point we differ. IIRC you have previously acknowledged that a flat tax would put the person on the margin over the edge, you stated that would not be desirable and I say it is regressive.

The mathematician in me has objections to the new different meaning. How can you have a tax that is flat will all the other factors included? What level of income becomes the no tax zone? Median income? Poverty level? Which poverty level? (different departments publish different numbers) Until you know where the zero line is, how can you know if a tax in progressive or regressive? This is my big bone with that proposed meaning, it is intentionally impossible to quantify. A scoundrel's tactic. Any floor to a flat tax makes it progressive. Any cap to a flat tax makes it regressive.

I know we are essentially in agreement. You wish the zero point, to be away from real zero so that it isn't seen as socially undesirable. In essence it says it must have a certain, undefinable level, of progressive built in or it is regressive.

Yes, taxes generally should be progressive. I still think everyone should have to pay a minimum per head amount to Uncle Sam, just because every citizen must realize the government is not free and they aren't entitled to free living simply as a birthright. Perhaps an alternate method than cash could be set up to pay this tax, spending a day a year working for the government. BTW would a days work for the government be progressive or regressive? ;)
57) Message boards : Politics : The USA shuts down (Message 1434186)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
I note that state governments and local governments which can not print money must have emergency funds because of this. Why not federally?

They do, the social security trust fund.

Isn't raiding the trust fund, er... pension plan what put "too big to fail" GM under?
58) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1434185)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
No useful comment here... Move along now...

Finally an honest self description ...
59) Message boards : Politics : UK Utilities in a mess (Message 1434154)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Thats why I get a big laugh when another company says we can save you money with our lower rate. Yeah but by the time National Grid whacks you with the delivery charge and taxes you dont save diddly squat.

That's why I said has cables down the street ...
60) Message boards : Politics : UK Utilities in a mess (Message 1434111)
Posted 174 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Chris,

You should have three or four different power companies who have cables down your street to choose from. Without competition and without regulation ...


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