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41) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : UK Power Supplies (Message 1705292)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Always find power delivery interesting.

At home I've had very little in the way of interruptions.

At work, several nasty multi-hour ones.

There is a few miles involved and they are different power companies as well.

Thanks for the reminder, I need to get replacement batteries for the UPS' at work.
42) Message boards : Number crunching : Gripes and Kudos IV (Message 1705280)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
gripe: the forum software has recently decided that the preview button means post if the request doesn't get transmitted in whole or times out.

kudos: we have mods to get rid of double posts
43) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705277)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier


The real issue, which is not presently addressed, is suppose that project A has a detection in their frequency band from a particular region, but it doesn't repeat, project B has one in a different frequency band from the same region of space. There is no universal NTPCKR that gets the data from both projects to say, "Hey this region should get a hard look by everyone."



Amen to the idea of getting that done.

Did you see IBM's Watson beat up on Jeopardy champions? Apparently a LOT of data can get searched pretty quickly if you've got the machinery and the right programmers... all of which costs a lot of money.

Hopefully, this will get consolidated, put in a "cloud," and get done. The longer we wait for even our own NTPCkr the harder it gets to implement

You mean the not near time PCKR that does get run once in a while when we are in the middle of an outrage so the database is stable and it can pick through it and spit out a table of candidates? Unfortunately the waterfall plots of those persistent candidates all look a lot like RFI, or they have so far.

What most of you fail to realize from Seti having to piggy back, is the sexy astronomical targets get looked at a lot. The random spots of sky away from astronomical targets might get swept once a decade. We aren't doing a pattern search of the sky.

Also you fail to realize this search is looking for an ET that wants to be found. The assumption is ET is transmitting a beacon and is doing so for several years running. We aren't there yet and I doubt with our fear of the unknown we ever will transmit such a beacon, even if we could find the necessary power to do so.
44) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recipes and Food (Message 1705140)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Hey, kiddo.
Don't cut spaghetti short./
That is my 'comfort food' of choice.
I often have it late at night to fill my belly and help me to sleep.
Years ago, when I had more than enough to drink and stomach problems cut in, my
GF of the time knew what to do....cook up a box of spaghetti, and it would put me right every time.

Wonder if al dente let it act like a sponge and soak up the excess drink?
45) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1705138)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
It just sounds a bit off. Maybe I'm bad at math but can more than 60 people die if there are 60 on board. Maybe I'm missing some facts here.

60 passengers + crew?
46) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1705135)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
British man’s bacon complaint goes viral

After picking up a package of bacon at his local Tesco supermarket, Ben Roberts was floored to find just six pieces in a package that advertised seven. While many would simply be sad and move past the outrage, shock and disappointment were just too much for Roberts to bear. He took to Facebook, and in a 500 plus word rant poured his heart out to Tesco’s community page.

"SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! There was only six rashers of bacon. Six. I could not believe it! Mortified! I called my other half into the kitchen but quickly dismissed her as she did not seem to understand the problem," we wrote.


Wonder what he will do when he finds out that the Imperial Gallon has less fuel than the American Gallon.

http://www.thepauperedchef.com/2010/04/a-guide-to-bacon-styles-and-how-to-make-proper-british-rashers.html
47) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1705131)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
The reason I ask is that your gem that started this thread goes right there.

I'm not Guy
48) Message boards : Number crunching : Reddit thinks SETI@home is not useful (Message 1705125)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
The problem with properly answering the usefulness question is that there doesn't seem to be much theory behind this project as far as the Search is concerned.

There is, but it is a bit more technical than the average user cares about. Perhaps reading some of the science papers might be useful for you.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_sci_newsletters.php
Make sure you read the cites as well so you get an understanding of radio astronomy. [Some of the cited papers may be behind journal pay walls]

Without a theory, we have no metrics. Without a metric, we have no measure of success, except the thus far elusive one of finding the first valid radio source indicating extra terrestrial intelligence.

For example, it seems to me that somebody "smart" could introduce a few assumptions and derive a statistical theory, where we could extract from our collective computing efforts how sure we are that there isn't evidence of ET in a particular direction, set of directions, or larger portion of the universe. 99% confidence level? 99.999% confidence level? etc. I suppose the concept of time has to be added to these CL's. And, we could debate the validity of the assumptions instead of the merits of the credit system and improve upon them as our understanding matures. Alas, the development of such a theory seems like a worthwhile, NSF fundable endeavor, but one that has not been taken up.

If you had been reading the science papers, you would see that such equations are in existence. The item to note is that to detect ET when ET isn't intentionally beaming a signal at you is impossible with our current dish and receivers, unless ET happens to be very close by. To find such an ET on the other side of the galaxy we would need an antenna 1000 times bigger than the one we are using, and in a true radio quiet area such as the far side of the moon. We have the tech, but not the $$$$. This also assumes ET isn't intentionally suppressing his signal. But everything is a wild guess. We don't know if ET uses radio. We don't know if ET uses lasers. ET might communicate with neutrino beams, which we can't detect yet. All we can say for sure is if ET is sending a signal with a X mega watt transmitter and it Y light years away on frequency Z and we point the antenna in the right direction we can or can't detect the signal. It doesn't talk about if ET has to send the signal to begin with.

Clearly, there are many people more educated than me on these matter. So I am very receptive of learning of efforts in the area. Notwithstanding, it is time, long past time, to begin assessing this project in terms of things relevant to the Search, and not just computer science or a hobby.

You must also realize that Seti@home is just one prong of many in the search for Seti. https://seti.berkeley.edu/ Other searches such as OSETI, SERENDIP. Then there are other groups also looking in totally different ways. http://www.seti.org/
Even Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_for_extraterrestrial_intelligence has a good bit of information.

The real issue, which is not presently addressed, is suppose that project A has a detection in their frequency band from a particular region, but it doesn't repeat, project B has one in a different frequency band from the same region of space. There is no universal NTPCKR that gets the data from both projects to say, "Hey this region should get a hard look by everyone."

<ed>PS I agree, anyone who is focused on RAC is doing it for a hobby, total credits, perhaps not so.
49) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1705032)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
John Russell Houser a man who had "a Georgia judge's order committing him to mental health treatment against his will as a danger to himself and others," passed a background check and bought a gun.

When are the gun control nuts going to realize it isn't gun laws that are the problem. It is laws like HIPPA hat don't allow Doctors and health professionals to talk about the mentally ill who should be kept away from guns that are the issue?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MOVIE_THEATER_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-25-18-01-07
"It sure does seem like something failed," said Judge Susan Tate, who presides over a probate court in Athens, Georgia, and has studied issues relating to weapons and the mentally ill. "I have no idea how he was able to get a firearm."

Houser never should have been able to buy a gun, said Sheriff Heath Taylor in Russell County, Alabama, whose office denied him a concealed weapons permit in 2006 based on arson and domestic violence allegations, even though the victims declined to pursue charges.

Houser racked up plenty of complaints, but no evidence has surfaced of any criminal conviction that would have kept him from passing the background check required for many gun purchases. Federal law does generally prohibit the purchase or possession of a firearm by anyone who has ever been involuntarily committed for mental health treatment.

That's what happened to Houser in 2008 after his family accused him of threatening behavior, warning authorities that he had a history of manic depression or bipolar disorder and was making ominous statements. His wife removed his guns and together, the family persuaded a judge to issue a protective order keeping him away once he left the hospital.

At that point, court officials should have reported Houser's involuntary mental commitment to the Georgia database that feeds the FBI's background check system, which provides for a delay of up to three days when records suggest a buyer may be ineligible.

Questions about gaps in the system also arose after James Holmes bought firearms to kill 12 people and wound 58 others in a Denver suburb three years ago, and after Dylann Storm Roof allegedly used a gun he bought this year to murder nine churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina.

But while both young men showed signs of trouble, neither had criminal convictions, nor where they hospitalized against their will.

Roof had admitted to illegal drug possession in a pending criminal case, however, which under federal rules would have been enough to disqualify him from a gun purchase even though he wasn't convicted.


Someone has to say it. Three gun control law failures. Shouldn't that be three strikes and gun control laws are out?

America has a crazy control issue.
50) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1704959)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Best Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries.

AND: Counterbalance that with Strong, Large, and Corrupt Private Unions.

In this case: Two Negatives result in a Positive. For the Workers and Capitalists.

I do understand that Academicians and Ideologues, despise Practical Solutions, which have worked in the past.

HAH! You think 'increase wealth and economy' is a practical solution? Like its just a matter of flipping a switch and suddenly the economy will grow and people will just earn more money? If it were that easy, poverty wouldn't exist.

Improve the economy is something every politician promises these days. There is no politician and there has never been a politician that wanted to have a shrinking economy with less wealth for everyone. Of course, its easy to make a promise like that, its almost impossible to actually do it. Frankly the economy is completely out of control of any politician. Their policies have only a minor influence on economic performance, far more influential on the economy are the financial markets. They decide whether the economy improves or not, and they are not beholden to any politician.
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. - Herbert Hoover

The only time a president ever did something with the economy, in peacetime, was, "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth."

JFK had vision. And at the time we had the political will to do the job.
Why you ask? Beacuse as a nation we were afarid the Soviets would get there first.

Perhaps we need to be afraid ET will get there first?
51) Message boards : Politics : Austrialian Political Dorks Smash BOTH Education AND Astronomy? (Message 1704957)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Only in Australia?!

Why yes, they let Japan's whale fleet operate!

Maybe they are not getting enough kickbacks from the whaling fleet to fund such scientific endevers?

Or maybe Sea Shepherd forced them to spend all the science money on whales?
52) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1704956)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Beta is down :( and just as I started to test something, lol

edit.. an no, I didn't break it thank you!!

The might be implementing the database change at Beta first to make sure it will work here next week.

Up now.
53) Message boards : Number crunching : How much do I download? (Message 1704947)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Ok Ok, obviously one of those days .....

I rightly or wrongly consider a proper network one where there is a server,

Such as the DHCP SERVER that is part of the linux computer in the router?
54) Message boards : Politics : Austrialian Political Dorks Smash BOTH Education AND Astronomy? (Message 1704822)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Only in Australia?!

Why yes, they let Japan's whale fleet operate!
55) Message boards : Politics : 7: The Torch is Lit (Message 1704821)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
That it is.

Migrants now targeting Eurotunnel nightly
He said people were so desperate to reach the UK they were prepared to throw themselves at trains travelling at 90mph.


Simple enough answer, close the damn thing down. Need to get to Europe fast then fly.

If they are willing to throw themselves at a high speed train, perhaps not just let them, but encourage it. One way to cut those numbers down. Stack the body parts right where they congregate. That is if the UK wants to be Donald Trump!
56) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1704685)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Best Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries.

AND: Counterbalance that with Strong, Large, and Corrupt Private Unions.

In this case: Two Negatives result in a Positive. For the Workers and Capitalists.

I do understand that Academicians and Ideologues, despise Practical Solutions, which have worked in the past.

HAH! You think 'increase wealth and economy' is a practical solution? Like its just a matter of flipping a switch and suddenly the economy will grow and people will just earn more money? If it were that easy, poverty wouldn't exist.

Improve the economy is something every politician promises these days. There is no politician and there has never been a politician that wanted to have a shrinking economy with less wealth for everyone. Of course, its easy to make a promise like that, its almost impossible to actually do it. Frankly the economy is completely out of control of any politician. Their policies have only a minor influence on economic performance, far more influential on the economy are the financial markets. They decide whether the economy improves or not, and they are not beholden to any politician.
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. - Herbert Hoover

The only time a president ever did something with the economy, in peacetime, was, "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth."
57) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1704684)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
HAH! You think 'increase wealth and economy' is a practical solution? Like its just a matter of flipping a switch and suddenly the economy will grow and people will just earn more money? If it were that easy, poverty wouldn't exist.

Of course it is not easy. I am neither an Ideologue, Left Winger, Right Winger, nor think as Academia.

Мишель...

Why would you believe that.

Posting history?
58) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1704528)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Interesting things they call art in London ...

Roller Derby Kisses at Finnish Institute King's Cross.
https://www.facebook.com/FinInstLondon?fref=nf
59) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation safety 2 (Message 1704489)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier

Then it is illegal without another qualified pilot onboard to have "eyeballs out."


You make several good points, there is still much to be found out though. We need a lawyer to reply to that last statement, but if it was illegal why did the tower clear the F-16 to the approach?

Is ATC required to know if a pilot is capable of doing some procedure before it issues a clearance that has been requested? Or is this the pilot should have not requested the clearance?

Why does a published approach have so much of the route in Class E airspace? Surely there would be times when a "legitimate" TACAN approach, in poor vis, would be underway at the same time as some little airplane runs the scud.

Yes, sometimes TERPS has some nasty surprises in it. Also realize the F-16 was on vectors to a fix, he wasn't flying the Arc segment of the approach which would have had him well clear of airport traffic patterns.

If I remember how to read a US Sectional (I usually let my driver do that these days) the Cessna should have been talking to Charleston Approach on 135.8 well before the collision. No indication yet if he was.

I think you are putting him much farther away from his starting point than he was. I doubt he was far enough away to not still be on the CTAF at Monks Corner. Remember a C150 would be about 70kts in a climb and 3 minutes would have him within 5 miles of the airport. This would be about the point most pilots would switch to Charleston if they intended to talk to them at all. If he was planning on staying clear of the inverted wedding cake he could legally not talk to them. (Not smart but legal)

Airports are 17 NM apart, outer ring is 10 NM from the AFB.

And if the collision occurred at approximately 1500 feet MSL, unless the F-16 was WAY too low they were just a few miles from the airport, within the 4,000 feet to surface "cake layer". Don't you need tower permission to enter that? Even if they were in the 4,000 to 1,200 layer, the Cessna was either busting or about to bust airspace.

I think the airspace "busted" was the airspace for Monks County airport, not the AFB's. OBW published info for the airport indicates it has jet operations so pattern altitudes would extend to 1500 AGL or 1600 MSL. Yes, I think the F-16 was cleared to descend to low too far from the AFB, but if there was no traffic on the scope when the clearance was issued no regulations were broken.

Another big unknown is the relative flight paths immediately before impact. If we believe the transponder altitudes, the F-16 descended into the Cessna - from above as viewed from the Cessna. There is NO upward vis in the 150, except for a small arc directly in front of the pilot, from many hours of personal experience. Similarly, if the 150 was below the F-16 nose (the F-16 was slowing, increasing angle of attack throughout the approach) the Cessna could have been completely blocked to him as well. That is why I say there are times when "see and be seen" does not and cannot work.

One thing you missed was ATC told the F-16 the traffic was "opposite direction." Also radar track of the C150 was "generally SE" 135 degrees, or crosswind departure. I'm speculating given the reported destination the C150 was planning on intercepting V1 to the NE towards his destination to avoid some of the complex MOA's around that area. With the opposite direction call and the 260 degree assigned heading to the F-16, it wasn't a dead head on, but I don't think the F-16 would have been in the C-150's wing, more like 10:30 o'clock. Don't know the over the nose visibility of an F-16. This collision happened nowhere near the straight in portion of the approach.


Yes, there still needs to be a final report written, and like every midair "failure to see and avoid"
60) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1704474)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile Gary Charpentier
Oh crumbs *clenches butt cheeks*

No need yet. Start doing that Tuesday, when apparently these fixes are going to be introduced here. It was nice knowing you all... rereg here we come. :P

I've tested this locally, and we'll deploy it on SETI@home next week.

-- David

Since it sounds like next Tuesday may be a long outage, let me remind people that while the project is down you can come over to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8105 and cry in your beer waiting for there to be more work units.


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