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21) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1796457)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1
Denial unto death to us ALL?...

America’s Largest Coal Company Has Been Bankrolling Climate Denial

... In a revelation that shouldn’t surprise anybody, Peabody Energy, the United States’ largest coal company, has been bankrolling think tanks, corporate lobbyists, trade associations, and individual scientists at the heart of the climate denial movement...

... few have manipulated the facts of global warming as consistently and egregiously as Peabody, which refers to carbon dioxide in glowing terms and asserts that by cranking up its concentration in our atmosphere, the company is fertilizing the planet for the benefit of mankind. Or, as a Peabody lobbyist once put it, doing “the Lord’s work.”...

... the transition off coal is going to have to continue, if we’re to have any hope of preventing the worst consequences of climate change from unfolding. It would be heartening to see a fossil fuel enterprise acknowledge this reality and take a leading role in developing the energy sources of the future. Sadly, like the compressed dinosaur remains they’ve made their fortunes from, most of these companies seem more interested in burying their heads in the sand and staying there.

All on our only one planet,
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Thoughts On New PC Build (Message 1796341)
Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1

It has been proven in the past that hosting a smaller number of GPUs on multiple computers will give better results due to better CPU support of those GPUs.

You and I both know this to have been absolutely true. ...

To jump in, I agree also.

In the past when I've looked to support multiple GPUs for running some intensive compute jobs, I've found the best price-performance was always to run a standard motherboard with a mid-range CPU and at most two GPU cards.

All other options of using super-duper top-of-the-range specials for the CPU, GPU or motherboard, or of going to multiple CPU sockets or of using external GPU card enclosures: They all unacceptably jumped up the cost or compromised performance, or both!

The only time you might want the extra expense or reduced overall performance is if you have some task that does not fit well on the size of your individual separate systems.

Boinc by design fits well on present consumer-grade PCs/GPUs. Hence keep with that sweet-spot for Boinc.

There was a "Skulltrail" consumer level two CPU sockets system that did burst upon the scene a few years ago that was aimed at hard-core gamers (hence the Marketing name?). Looking at that, it looked to be far too expensive all for little gain.

Here's hoping the next big jump will be with the newer more general GPGPUs becoming more open for parallel number crunching...

Happy fast crunchin'.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : My Computer Builds (Message 1795021)
Posted 10 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1
I'm not posting here anymore, since I don't have any real friends here, goodbye.

Hang in there.

This is quite a story for putting so many machines together. A lack of comment doesn't mean a lack of interest.

Note the views count? (36000+ ...!)

Just a thought:

For all the combined wisdom we have on this forum, is there a "s@h crunching" guide anywhere?

Happy cool crunchin',
24) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1795020)
Posted 10 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1
wtg, Britons, despite your Govt:

So why is our government sabotaging renewables?!
Norway is 100% renewables.
Portugal is high on renewables and has run days at a time 100% renewable.
Chile has periods of ZERO electricity costs due to renewables.
Denmark and Holland EXPORT renewables electricity...
So why is the UK languishing at about 25% renewables and our government subsidising pollution instead?!
Corruption and lobbying at work?...
All on our only one planet,

You could call it corruption and lobbying at work but thats how the energy market works.
Norway is 100% renewables!
No that's not true. It's about 65%.
I don't know where your figures comes from but here is again what Eurostat says about renewables...

[Chart dated 2013]

Whats most disturbing is the fact that France, Germany, Ireland, United Kingdom and the Netherlands are the countries that are still very far from the legally bindings targets for 2020.

Another problem is that Eurostat stats only shows how much a country produce renewable energy.
But not comparing the energy being imported from other countries when the energy prices are lower in countries with non-renewable energy.

Yep, there is far to much disingenuous twisting of the numbers. Is there still far too much 'sympathy' towards the presently expensively still-in-power fossils?...

Is your chart out of date? What progress has there been since 2013?...

Here's another quote that Norway is 100% on renewables for electricity:

Why do they love electric cars in the Arctic Circle?

... But it is economic incentive as much as environmental concern that is fuelling the rise in green cars - Norway introduced a raft of generous subsidies to encourage people to go electric...

... It launched an aggressive tax policy towards high-polluting cars, while offering zero tax on zero-emission cars. This "polluter pays" policy brought the cost of an electric car into line with a conventionally powered one...

... The electricity being pumped into her car is free.

Norway is fortunate enough to have close to 100% renewable and cheap hydro power production. According to the Norwegian Electric Vehicle Association, even if all three million cars on the country's roads were electric, they would suck up just 5-6% of the annual hydro power electricity production...

And that article gives a good reminder that we really do need to have the polluters pay for cleaning up their pollution...

All on our only one planet,
25) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technolgy 3 (Message 1795018)
Posted 10 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1

Information security firm Rapid7 established the National Exposure Index that shows the countries most vulnerable to hacking attacks by scanning the entire worldwide web for servers with their front doors wide open...

Yep. I see that first hand. Widespread.

For some systems techs, they really have been 'dumbed down' by Marketing gloss and very pretty (almost Star Trek style) graphical interfaces such that the techs have got no clue as to what the default settings are or what actually happens when some pretty button is pressed.

Worse still... There is an overriding pressure from the combination of: "Marketing" for certain products claiming (supposed) "perfect security" (and 'trust us'); management screaming "is it done yet?!"; and the techs either uninterested or simply not given any time to properly set up secured systems.

It is then that I come along to find that the defaults are designed to "enable EVERYTHING to just work(tm)" with particular design emphasis on minimizing support calls.

Then when everything goes wrong due to malware, that is a "cost extra" to fix.

Added to that, my personal experience for the roll-out of Windows 10 is that there appears to be complete disregard for the proper use of network protocols such that the technicians are very prone to just give up and turn all firewalling and network filtering off.

(The Windows 10 updates have tripped our malware alarms a few times now... Looks like it uses file torrenting also to jam up our bandwidth!)

All a recipe for disaster. Not how IT should be but all a consequence of coercive design?

IT is what we make it...
26) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1794579)
Posted 8 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1
wtg, Britons, despite your Govt:


So why is our government sabotaging renewables?!

Norway is 100% renewables.

Portugal is high on renewables and has run days at a time 100% renewable.

Chile has periods of ZERO electricity costs due to renewables.

Denmark and Holland EXPORT renewables electricity...

So why is the UK languishing at about 25% renewables and our government subsidising pollution instead?!

Corruption and lobbying at work?...

All on our only one planet,
27) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1793683)
Posted 5 Jun 2016 by Profile ML1
I should be quite safe then... I live at about 200 meters above MSL. <GRIN>

You may stay 'safe' from the rising waters...

Meanwhile, how safe will you be from the displaced people, extreme weather, and all the other ever more unsafe and expensive upheaval...

All on our only one planet...
28) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1791283)
Posted 28 May 2016 by Profile ML1
... Not so good in other places thou . Just worry for your self and we will both be dead of old age by then it's the next Gen's problem to suffer through . :-(

Unfortunately so.

So instead of those in power and pollution being "old and wise", what we see is continuing "old and belligerently selfish" and the younger people are to be damned...

Perhaps we really do need a revolution to force some positive change?...

Here are yet more recent examples of extreme denial:

Exxon: An inconvenient truth

In the hot and humid conditions of downtown Dallas, the #Exxonknew ice sculpture - erected by environmental campaigners to suggest the company had known about the science of climate change but had failed to act - did not last too long...

... Exxon and others, green groups say, will be shown to have misled investors and the public about the true state of climate science and will be fined, condemned and buried...

... This is a very big issue for Exxon Mobil as the shareholders believe current investigations into the alleged undermining of climate science are an assault on their First-Amendment rights.

"The fact that people have different opinions on climate change; they have every right to their opinion, whether we agree with it or not - I will support their right to say so," said Mr Tillerson to a hefty ovation.

It is a little ironic, then, that he did not want to extend that same right to all of the press, as the Guardian newspaper was told it was not welcome at the shareholder meeting.

The more under the cosh Exxon feels, the less likely it is to embrace the ideas of outsiders, however mild. If its shareholders are really to take the steps many want on climate change or indeed anything else, green groups will need to find another means.

They will not be told.

Australia removed from UN world heritage climate report

All references to climate change's impact on World Heritage sites in Australia have been removed from a United Nations report.

A draft of the report contained a chapter on the Great Barrier Reef and references to Kakadu and Tasmania.

But Australia's Department of the Environment requested that Unesco scrub these sections from the final version. A statement from the department said the report could have had an impact on tourism...

... Prof Steffen was sceptical about official explanations that the report risked causing confusion over the status of the reef and could impact tourism.

"There's no substance to either of those arguments," he said.

"There was no mention at all that the Great Barrier Reef might be listed as endangered. There was also a paragraph at the end that discussed steps the Australian government is taking to mitigate risks to the reef."...

... It is not clear why Unesco agreed to the government's request to remove the passages.

Ancient crayfish and worms may die out together

... They warn that such a sweeping coextinction is a genuine threat, particularly as modern-day climate change steepens the warming of Australia that has shaped and shrivelled the creatures' shared habitat over the millennia.

Forestry and other environmental changes add to the risk.

"In Australia, freshwater crayfish are large, diverse and active 'managers', recycling all sorts of organic material and working the sediments," ...

"The temnocephalan worms associated only with these crayfish are also diverse, reflecting a long, shared history and offering a unique window on ancient symbioses. We now risk extinction of many of these partnerships, which will lead to degradation of their previous habitats and leave science [and our world] the poorer."

All on our only one planet,
29) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technolgy 3 (Message 1790523)
Posted 26 May 2016 by Profile ML1
...REAL radios glow in the dark. :P Gawd the tube equipment is HEAVY. I have a rather old 1.5kW linear that weighs over 100 lbs.

It is those dang transformers for the plate voltage, and those high voltage oil filled capacitors.

Can you imagine a modern switching power supply feeding a linear ...

Yep. We have that far too widely spread...

It's called "ADSL broadband" on centuries old+ telegraph wires. Yep, we still use the same system even now. Supposedly the Marketing people market that as "fast and modern" internet... At least the ADSL is not quite 1.5kW band splatter! Then again, the few mW x 1000's of users do go into too many unintended places far and wide...

Oooer until the telcos do at long last go a little more recent and move up to clean quiet efficient near-maintenance-free fibre optics to the home/premises to deliver something nearer to reasonable internet speeds...

Shame about the old-style monopolies...

Until when?

IT is what we make it...
30) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technolgy 3 (Message 1790381)
Posted 25 May 2016 by Profile ML1

Building robot McDonald's staff 'cheaper' than hiring workers on minimum wage

But will it make the swill taste any better or increase the nutritional value?

Well then... The USA had better get themselves educated to something better than corn syrup and $15/hour.

McDonald's using robot arms could be the best thing ever for the USA and the world! No "Hallelujah!" needed. No guns needed.

All in our only one world,
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1789088)
Posted 20 May 2016 by Profile ML1
I highly doubt that this thread would exist if everyone trusted Micro$oft. ;)

[Shrug] :-(

I moved over to other system after what I considered to be unholy compromises made for WinXP and the ensuing ongoing malware crapshoot.

For what I see for the move to Win10: Add proprietary tyranny to that!

Are Windows users really so hopelessly trapped and befuddled by the Microsoft Marketing?

Or are computer users just hopelessly trapped and shackled? :-(

IT is what we allow it to be,
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1787368)
Posted 13 May 2016 by Profile ML1
just grabbed a 96 core opteron system on ebay runs good and stable

Yeah!!! Way to go!!

Slightly jealous...

I'm running some 32 core opteron systems to good effect. Very solid and consistent and reliable for server work even if not the hottest for number crunching.

But then again: GPUs are always going to be the winners for number compute power...

Happy fast crunchin
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1787137)
Posted 12 May 2016 by Profile ML1
Got a spreadsheet somewhere...

The source problem is that we are not measuring reality, or even a consistent consistently measurable abstraction of anything tangibly real. The "Cobblestone" was a useful but imperfect measure for compute-intensive projects. However, since then, we have other considerations and also even vastly differing measures of compute rates between old x86-FPU, SIMD, GPU, and others...

... Try following some of the ideas of NIST calibration to get real?...

(Note, this is a very old discussion...)

Myself, I favor NIST-style calibration to award for transistor-transitions. That should work well for for both compute intensive and network intensive tasks until we move into quantum computing...

Happy crunchin',
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Average Credit Decreasing? (Message 1786295)
Posted 9 May 2016 by Profile ML1
Very good this is getting thought about again but a bit more seriously...

One thought that might be out of date or just simply wrong but just to check just the same...

Is there not some server-side code that takes a (median?) average to 'normalize' all the credit rates?

And would that not be very significantly skewed as soon as a GPU result became that magic median value that was taken to be representative of all?... (As in, the credit for CPU-only users would then be seen to plummet.)

As I'm sure is appreciated, great care is needed when applying "fiddle-factors" to attempt to massage the results for whatever is not being directly measured...

Happy crunchin',
35) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1786165)
Posted 9 May 2016 by Profile ML1
At last openly in the news, the profits and coercion and costs of sliming the population with 'processed' foods:

What yoghurt tells us about the obesity fight

... understanding the challenge facing the nation on obesity, yoghurt is a good place to start. It's one of the most common items in our shopping basket. We spend more on it than we do on crisps and bacon.

In its normal state - natural full-fat - it's pretty good for you. It can boost your immune system, is good for your bones and is great at satisfying hunger.

The problem is that a great deal of the yoghurt we buy is not the natural stuff. Instead we seem to like the processed products, which are made by partly substituting yoghurt and adding a combination of other ingredients such as gelatine, sugar and flavourings. It tends to be cheaper to produce per calorie, but nowhere near as good for you.


Some 58% of advertising spend is on confectionery and convenience food, compared to only 3% on fruit, vegetables and pasta.

Less healthy foods are a three times cheaper source of calories than healthy foods, while promotions cause us to buy 20% more than we would otherwise.

Campaigners call this the "obesogenic" environment and say it is a major reason why we are not eating the right sort of food.


... Other steps, including a more substantial restriction on advertising, an end to promotions such as buy-one-get-one-free deals and clearer labelling, are now being targeted...

All only after our health service costs are as crippling as the people being treated have been crippled?...

Who has eaten all the profits on that one?...

All in our only one world,
36) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1784359)
Posted 2 May 2016 by Profile ML1
Can't argue with this good comment from someone who has seen far far more than most:

Sir David Attenborough warns against playing 'fast and loose' ...

... Attenborough is a prominent supporter of an Apollo-style research programme to harness energy from the sun and make renewable energy cheaper than fossil fuels.

“If we could put a man on the moon in 10 years you mean to say we can’t solve the problem of getting one 500th part of the energy from the sun? It’s really a tiny technological problem,” he said.

“We’re proposing a route map in which you look at where the congestions are, as it were, and getting international organisations to look and say, ‘I’ll tackle this, you tackle that’, and within 10 years we’ll be able to produce the whole thing and bingo.”...

All a 'game' of politics and finance and all people and life and the world be damned?...

All on our only one planet,
37) Message boards : Politics : Electric cars - Right move? (Message 1784239)
Posted 2 May 2016 by Profile ML1
... The rest is waste heat.

The current F1 power units are at, or very close to 50% efficient.


That's a lot better than all too many electricity power stations!...

Which is what started this thread, that electric cars are not green because power stations are not green.

Which is precisely why we need to get away from dirty old inefficient polluting coal, and then similarly move off all the other old fossils to instead go clean and finally totally get away from all the pollution waste...

We have the technology now.

The main hurdle is overcoming the fossils monopoly to move over investment faster to zero pollution...

All on our only one planet,
38) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1784119)
Posted 1 May 2016 by Profile ML1
All just my opinion and personal observation as ever, but the very careful wording for this article just completely stinks for what I see as some very deliberate poisoning of our farming and all of us be damned!

Banned pesticides 'not equally harmful' to bees [...]

... This study examined the three types banned by the EU in 2013. It shows that different types affect the brains of bumblebees in distinct ways.

Two (imidacloprid and thiamethoxam) were shown to be highly toxic to bumblebees when they were exposed to levels of the chemicals found in the countryside.

They affected their brains, impairing their memory and ability to forage for pollen. The toxic effects also included altering the make-up of the colony, changing the ratio of males to females and in some cases reducing the number of queens.

The third (clothiandin) - a close chemical relative that has not been tested before is shown not to be harmful to bees in the low doses given during field trials. The number of queens in the colonies actually increased.

'Long-term consequences'

Dr Chris Connolly, from the University of Dundee, said: "There has been growing concern over the risk to bee populations from neonicotinoid insecticides and their long-term consequences to essential ecosystem services and food security."

He said: "We can clearly see that the banned neonicotinoids are not the same, so they should be considered independently when considering risk and legislation.

"From our findings, we consider that it is premature to place a permanent ban on the use of clothianidine. That said, a moratorium on its use should continue until the knowledge gaps are filled on its wider impact on other species." ...

The official responses/comment in that article are most illumining.

My personal view and interpretation is that:

  • The pesticide producers blithely rubbish the results as somehow not possibly so;

  • The (supposed) National Farmers Union argue to poison the land regardless (in the same way as they promote the slaughter of badgers to scapegoat them for the ongoing bad/cruel/unhealthy farming practices);

And all in the name of that last 1% of greedy profit at all costs to everyone else. How very convenient this was never or never adequately studied by the pesticides manufacturers and sellers?... Or was it??...

How do we put a speedy stop to such madness?

(And why do we suffer such long histories of FUD and disinformation for continuing long term poisoning scandals?...)

All on our only one planet,

39) Message boards : Politics : Electric cars - Right move? (Message 1784110)
Posted 1 May 2016 by Profile ML1
... The rest is waste heat.

The current F1 power units are at, or very close to 50% efficient.


That's a lot better than all too many electricity power stations!...

All on our only one planet,
40) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1781272)
Posted 22 Apr 2016 by Profile ML1
Is this where foods have been turned into addictive drugs to make you crave?...

Why is there so much sugar in some savoury foods?

There's growing concern over too much added sugar in soft drinks, but there's also added sugar in many savoury foods. Why?...

... One brand of ketchup - Tesco Finest - contains 38.1g of sugar per 100g. That's higher than the 34g in every 100g of Belgian chocolate sauce from the same Tesco range...

... It might be argued ketchup - as a condiment - is something designed to be used only sparingly but there are many cooking sauces and ready meals that have surprisingly high sugar contents. ...

... Sugar acts as a balance to the bitterness or sourness of other flavours, such as salt or spices, which means the sweetness isn't tasted but still gives the body the effects of a "sugar rush", just as foods such as chocolate do. So some savoury foods are having the same effect on the body as sweet ones, and causing similar cravings, but with a different taste.

"The brain's saying 'Give me more like that'," says Smith. "It's getting lots of sugar without you actually knowing, so is less able than when eating sweets to say 'I've had enough. Stop now.' It's morally dubious that so much sugar is in things that people don't know or recognise from their tasting...

To my personal opinion: Very slimy indeed...

So... Knowingly unhealthy all along?...

Unfortunately, that sort of example is likely badly unhealthy across all "processed foods" manufacturers...

All in our only one world,

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