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21) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1630642)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
I Think we have to worry more about whats happening in Siberia right now then fracking gas spill.
http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0076-how-global-warming-could-turn-siberia-into-a-giant-crater-time-bomb/

The fracking gas spills is however a problem.
I saw a docu about it. From Pennsylvania I Think.
You can ignite the tap water!
Both humans and livestocks are getting sick because of it.

Thanks for the good link. Interesting article.

Note the physics behind that:

Methane Hydrate phase diagram




Further details on Wikipedia: Methane clathrate


In short, if you assume normal atmospheric pressure, then any methane clathrate that has accumulated below surface ice will 'melt' as much as 10 deg C before the surface (water) ice can melt. The clathrate will then release 169 times its volume as gas. That adds up to a lot of quickly released gas pressure.

A likely scenario is that the surface holds back that released methane gas pressure until breaking point. You then get a gas pressure explosion which likely liberates yet more methane clathrate gas as the pressure is suddenly reduced for that temperature. Quite a good positive feedback to give a good big bang. About 11 tons of TNT equivalent quoted in the news article.


A good bubble of that from 300m down in the ocean or a deep lake could well sink a ship!

And all that is needed is for mankind to warm further the thousands of years of methane clathrate accumulations around the world...

Reckless or WHAT?!


All on our only one planet,
Martin
22) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1630636)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
... The link YOU supplied, and referred to.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/01/16/scientists-balk-at-hottest-year-claims-we-are-arguing-over-the-significance-of-hundredths-of-a-degree-the-pause-continues/ ...

Clyde,

You are playing FUD and confusion.

That link is from your post.

With my comments about the ridiculous sponsored bias of that source and comments.


Please at least keep to the real world facts.


All on our only one planet,
Martin
23) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1630581)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile ML1
... Have they 'Used' these New Models to Re-Evaluate the Past Incorrect Predictions?...

For one example of how climate models are developed and used, see:


climateprediction.net: Global Climate Models

... The equations can then be tweaked so that the model does as well as possible at producing past and current climates (compared to archived observations). If the model accurately reproduces past and current climates it can then be used to try to predict what the climate could do in the future...


You can run the models for yourself and see for yourself, in near "real-time" depending on what computer you use.


All on our only one planet,
Martin
24) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1630579)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile ML1
Remember it's the Co2 that is raising temps and melting the north pole and more methane is being released now because of the permafrost melting than what cows and man has released .

Well, that was the theory anyway. The article is of measurements over the Los Angeles Basin, not exactly the North Pole. The way methane gets there is from man's activities. There isn't a lot of cattle farming in the megalopolis of Los Angeles anymore. That means things like trash dumps are putting out far more than predicted, there are a lot of those in a megalopolis. Of course there is also oil under Los Angeles, so that natural occurrence may be the local source. That is why this finding is so very important and must not be dismissed.

Just to come back to this one...

Note that the article explains very nicely how the LA basin is a good example for testing a new instrument for measuring methane concentration throughout the atmosphere. There is another new satellite being launched this year for measuring atmospheric gas concentrations worldwide.

Meanwhile, we already have:


Satellite Data Shows U.S. Methane ‘Hot Spot’ Bigger than Expected

One small “hot spot” in the U.S. Southwest is responsible for producing the largest concentration of the greenhouse gas methane seen over the United States – more than triple the standard ground-based estimate -- according to a new study of satellite data...

... to leaks in natural gas production and processing equipment in New Mexico's San Juan Basin, which is the most active coalbed methane production area in the country...

... "The results are indicative that emissions from established fossil fuel harvesting techniques are greater than inventoried," Kort said. "There's been so much attention on high-volume hydraulic fracturing, but we need to consider the industry as a whole."...



Satellite data shows surprising methane hotspot in US southwest

... The result hints that the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and other agencies considerably underestimate leaks of methane, which is also called natural gas.

The higher level of methane is not a local safety or a health issue for residents, but is a factor in overall global warming...



Satellite data shows livestock emitted more methane than oil and gas industry in 2004

Analysis of data received from a satellite in 2004 has shown that at least during that year, livestock in the U.S. emitted more methane into the atmosphere than did the oil and gas industry...


Note: Myself, without searching further, I am a little suspicious of that last quote/reference for "cherry-picking" the numbers for one year.


Meanwhile, the general message I personally get from that small sample is that CO2 is our biggest pollution but methane is an important one to clean up also. There is also a very obvious direct conflict there in that what is being measured and studied will directly cost the Fossil Fuels industry money and lost profit to clean up. Hence why we have the ferocious Fossil Fuel's FUD campaign to avoid/defer/procrastinate enforcement to not pollute?


All on our only one planet,
Martin
25) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#2) (Message 1630576)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile ML1
Sun

From that:

... She hailed it as a "a small but significant step towards improving media portrayal of women and girls", and added that she hoped it would be permanent...

At least that is one small step towards an improvement, but will that improve the quality of their news reporting?...


Long overdue there is also this improvement from 'old ideas':

Pope Francis: No Catholic need to breed like 'rabbits'

Good Roman Catholics do not need to breed like "rabbits", the Pope has said, but should practise "responsible" parenting instead...


Do not underestimate how religions and the media influence people by how people are portrayed...

All just a cultural thing? Or a question of "questionable" upbringing?

Or 'just' cynical crass couldn't-care-less exploitation?...


All in our only one world,
Martin
26) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology 2 (Message 1630020)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile ML1
Where do you want to drive today?...


BMW: ADMEN have asked us for YOUR connected car DATA

US technology companies and advertisers have been seeking access to the data generated by sensors in so-called "connected cars"... BMW head of sales and marketing, said BMW had so far resisted requests to share connected car data...


Dongle bingle makes two MEELLION cars open to exploit

A bluetooth dongle used to track driver habits for insurance purposes has been hacked potentially allowing cars to be remotely hijacked...


Who do you want to drive you?...


IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin
27) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629910)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile ML1
[... Clyde's misquote for FUD ignored ...]

Earths Oscillation may/does have a significant impact.

See: (Mother Nature Network) Everything you need to know about Earth's orbit and climate change

... orbital phases occur over tens of thousands of years, so the only climate trends that orbital patterns might help explain are long-term ones.

Even so, looking at Earth's orbital cycles can still offer some invaluable perspective on what is happening in the short term. Most notably, you might be surprised to learn that Earth's current warming trend is happening in spite of a relatively cool orbital phase. It's therefore possible to better appreciate the high degree that anthropogenic warming must be taking place in contrast...



Note especially that the great changes we are seeing are over the span of just decades. Other than the yearly seasons, other orbital effects take place gradually over the span of thousands of years.

What we see now is far far too fast to be explained away by thousands-years long orbital effects. Indeed, we should be cooling very slightly due to the present phase of our celestial mechanics. And yet instead we are heating up very quickly. We are polluting with CO2 ever more quickly also...



All on our only one planet,
Martin
28) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629831)
Posted 7 days ago by Profile ML1
. Keystone will have no effect on local prices at the pump because there is no direct link between gas prices and local oil production or availability...

REALLY ??

Where did this guy study economics ?

Where did you learn to not read?

Read again:

. Keystone will have no effect on local prices at the pump because there is no direct link between gas prices and local oil production or availability...



I'm sure you don't get your gasoline from the local refinery down the road. And even if you do, the price they give is whatever is dictated by the world market exchange.

All on our only one planet,
Martin
29) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629806)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile ML1
Meanwhile, to me this looks like at least one part of the Fossil Fuels industry has been pushing pollution and 'Marketing' lies for the sake of their own increased profits. Meanwhile, Canada, northern USA, and the rest of the world be damned:


Keystone, climate change and the US economy: the truth behind the myths

Six-plus years of robust debate has led to plenty of speculation about the perceived benefits of the pipeline – some of which are drastically overstated

... Keystone XL, which would transport tar sands crude oil from Canada to refineries on the US gulf coast. Over the past six-plus years, Keystone has become a stand-in for a broader debate about climate change. It’s also the subject of much myth-making about climate change and the economy...

... But even the State Department’s own analysis found found the pipeline, once operational, would cause the equivalent emissions of 300,000 cars a year... have found tar sands up to 20% more carbon intensive than the average barrel of crude...

... The State Department in its analysis found Keystone would create ... temporary construction jobs, and about 50 permanent jobs...

... Most of the 830,000 barrels of oil a day transported by Keystone will be exported...

... Keystone will have no effect on local prices at the pump because there is no direct link between gas prices and local oil production or availability...



Is that "equivalent emissions of 300,000 cars a year" just for pumping/running the pipeline itself?!...

All a game of how to ever more wastefully burn our planet?...


All on our only one planet,
Martin
30) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629745)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile ML1
Still refused, or are afraid, to answer a simple question.

I rest my case about your Real Thinking.

You are now being silly or worse for the sake of making useless noise.

Please go back the few posts to find my answer.


All on our only one planet,
Martin
31) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629417)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile ML1
Question: Why, or what caused, the Global Warming Hiatus ... over the past 18 years?

The oceans are a powerful influence in the movement of HEAT around the planet which has a great influence on temperature....


ps: The innuendo that somehow "science got it wrong again" is all a part of how the popularist press (and worse) hype up or even make up any sensationalism possible...

ML1...

Until your last sentence: You made sense.

Your last sentence, incorrectly ascribing my thinking, does show why your insulting type, is....

By 'eck, you're a sensitive one!


So, your original question verbatim is:

Why, or what caused, the Global Warming Hiatus, despite Scientific Predictions, over the past 18 years?


That format is known as a "leading question". You tell us the expected answer in your question (in this case that something is supposedly wrong).

I merely split my answer into two parts: The first ignoring the included innuendo in that format of question; and the second noting where such innuendo is often proffered.

There is no comment about your thoughts in there.


Keep searchin!

All on our only one planet,
Martin

(Edited to try to remove ambiguity from the English used.)
32) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629412)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile ML1
All of no surprise at all, as expected and pretty much exactly as predicted by our mainstream science consistently since nearly 200 years ago:


2014 officially the hottest year on record

Scientists balk at ‘hottest year’ claims: Ignores Satellites showing 18 Year ‘Pause’ – ‘We are arguing over the significance of hundredths of a degree’ – The ‘Pause’ continues

Claiming 2014 is the “hottest year” on record based on hundredths of a degree temperature difference is a fancy way of saying the global warming ‘pause’ is continuing.”

http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/01/16/scientists-balk-at-hottest-year-claims-we-are-arguing-over-the-significance-of-hundredths-of-a-degree-the-pause-continues/

YES - There has been a Hiatus, of 18 years, in Global Warming...

And indeed so, we've had a steady string of hottest years for our recent years - ALL OF THEM.

Arguing over the last fraction of a degree and what the "official" calculation gives is a bit of a press game. The important aspect is that we are already outside of the sort of climate seen for the previous thousands of years that has allowed Mankind to flourish to then pollute ourselves to an early demise.


The quibbles over in the press is the usual sensationalism silliness.

And then there is outright Fossil Fuels sponsored propaganda with impossible absolutisms and deliberate befuddlement and out-of-context quibbles such as what your link shows...

Note the other connections and examples:


Sourcewatch: Climate Depot

ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier who previously served as environmental communications director for a vocal political denier of climate change, Republican Sen. James Inhofe. Launched in spring 2009...

... ClimateDepot.com is being financed by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a nonprofit in Washington that advocates for free-market solutions to environmental issues. ... received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the ExxonMobil Foundation and foundations associated with the billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, a longtime financier of conservative causes...



Climate Change Misinformer Of The Year: Marc Morano

ClimateDepot.com founder Marc Morano has been called "the Matt Drudge of climate denial," the "king of the skeptics," and "a central cell of the climate-denial machine," and he revels in these descriptions. Although he has no scientific expertise, he is adamant that manmade global warming is a "con job"...

... These days Morano is paid by an industry-funded group to run the climate denial website ClimateDepot.com...

... Due to his history of smears and lies, Morano's media influence is usually confined to Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. But in December, CNN invited him to "debate" Bill Nye on climate science, and in doing so elevated his marginal views to the mainstream press for the first time all year...



Climate Denial Playbook: Marc Morano's History of Bullying Scientists

If you've even heard of Marc Morano, you probably watched him angrily attacking a climate scientist, journalist or Al Gore on Fox News or on his blog Climate Depot, a project of the Donors Trust and oil industry-funded CFACT. Morano is so agitated in his climate denial that he once advocated that climate scientists be “publicly flogged.”...

... Morano has also worked for extreme right wing operatives Howard Phillips, Paul Weyrich and Brent Bozell. Morano once quipped to a group of Agenda 21 conspiracy theorists that, “Inhofe is as far left as I'll go for an employer.”...




And here is where Morano loses the plot and descends into a filibuster shouting attack against Bill Nye:

Global Warming Skeptic Marc Morano Debates Bill Nye the Science Guy on Climate Change

UPDATE: Links added to transcript to give readers background regarding scientific points made by Morano.

Global warming skeptic and founder of the website Climate Depot Marc Morano debated climate change with Bill Nye the Science Guy on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight Tuesday.

Video of the entire spirited discussion follows with full CNN transcript...



(Note the silly mistakes in the transcript! :-( )



So who would you believe?

All on our only one planet,
Martin
33) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629405)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile ML1
Question: Why, or what caused, the Global Warming Hiatus ... over the past 18 years?

The oceans are a powerful influence in the movement of HEAT around the planet which has a great influence on temperature. With that, there are a number of natural oscillations for how the ocean heat flows vary around the world and in the way the ocean and atmosphere interact. All natural and the signature of that is seen throughout our temperature records.

What has been measured recently is that the deeper ocean has warmed appreciably. Also we have the ice loss of CUBIC MILES of ice. Melting the ice converts a lot of heat whilst keeping the temperature steady at 0 deg C (32 deg F) during the melt.

The excess heat being trapped by the Earth continues and is (naturally) being stored in various places. That means we see a temperature slowdown for the moment for some measures (only). That also means we next get an even sharper jolt when the natural Earthly oscillation naturally goes onto the uptick...


Measuring the excess heat, our human pollution global warming continues unabated. As directly measured.

For just one example, you can see that in how the oceans have been expanding much more quickly during the Denialist's claims that somehow "nothing is happening"...


All on our only one planet,
Martin

ps: The innuendo that somehow "science got it wrong again" is all a part of how the popularist press (and worse) hype up or even make up any sensationalism possible...
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 7: the first stab (Message 1629181)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1
And for those interested when other OS or apps have their support end.
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect

And for those interested in other OSes:

Take a look at "Top Ten Distributions". Yes, those are Linux :-) - scroll down to see what they look like.

And there are yet other OSes (such as the FreeBSD listed there at the moment)...


Happy cool crunchin!

IT is what we make it...
Martin
35) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Space X (Message 1629179)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1
SpaceX has finally released a visual of the crash landing. Been waiting for anything, ever since staying up all night the morning of the launch to have live updates. You can go to their twitter https://twitter.com/spacex to see the Vine they posted, just a few seconds long. Man they were so close. Looks like the rocket was sort of off target by just a little bit, and it was tipping over to get closer to the center of the platform. Or else it was having trouble maintaining orientation. Maybe the hydraulic fluid really was a major factor. 2 more weeks until the next trial. Looking forward to results.

That was very close and a fantastic first try.

Reading around a bit I believe the press have tripped over their ignorance of physics and engineering...

The problem was that the hydraulics for the steerable paddle fins ran out of gas pressure to power the hydraulics. The landing then went tits-up...

For their next attempt, there is going to be a further 50% gas provisioned.

("Gas" in this instance is indeed actual gas pressure as opposed to USA petroleum!)


Fantastic stuff! Roll on Thunderbird 1!!

Keep searchin',
Martin
36) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1629083)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1
As noted in the "Denial" thread, it's been rather windy over here and the wind power generation for the UK has been pretty much pegged at the maximum 6 Giga Watts for most of the last two weeks. So very roughly about 15% of the UK supply.

There is room for further clean capacity yet...


Wind power 'adds resilience to UK energy market'

Installing more wind turbines will make the UK's energy market more resilient to global fossil fuel price shocks...

... wind power saved the UK £579 million in fossil fuel costs in 2013. The UK is recognised for having the best wind resource in Europe.

"One of the main messages from this report is that in a scenario with a higher content of wind energy, you are less reliant on fossil fuels," ...




All on our only one planet,
Martin
37) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629077)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1

Good one thanks.

That is pretty much what our Fossil Fuels industry is doing to our planet... Just insidiously slowly over the decades rather than with the one flash-bang.

We've had the age of the dinosaurs.

We've now got the age of anthropogenic pollution.

Who or what comes after us to dig up the layer of sooty pollution pretty much as we now investigate the iridium layer marking the end of the great dinosaur era?...


All on our only one planet,
Martin
38) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629075)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1
All of no surprise at all, as expected and pretty much exactly as predicted by our mainstream science consistently since nearly 200 years ago:


2014 officially the hottest year on record

The numbers are in. The year 2014 – after shattering temperature records that had stood for hundreds of years across virtually all of Europe, and roasting parts of South America, China and Russia – was the hottest on record, with global temperatures 1.24F (0.69C) higher than the 20th-century average...

... That means nobody born since 1976 has experienced a colder-than-average year...

... “Any one year being a record warm one is not in itself particularly significant, but this is one in a series of record warm years that are driven by the continuing underlying long-term global warming,” said Gavin Schmidt, director of Nasa’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies. “We expect that heat records will continue to get broken – not everywhere and not every year – but increasingly, and that does not bode well for a civilisation that is continuing to add greenhouse gases to the atmosphere at an increasing rate.”...

... The odds of that temperature shift occurring because of natural climate variability were less than one in 27 million...

... “You have a continuous upward trend over the last century and that is telling us something. We have a clear signal that our climate changing, and when you look at the evidence it’s because of human activities.”

“The evidence is so strong I don’t know why we are arguing any more,” Wuebbles said. “It’s just crazy.”...



Note also in that article for what we've seen for extreme weather around the globe as an ever increasing consequence of our Fossil Fuels pollution...

And yet we continue to allow our planet to be polluted to hell, and all for corruptly cheap.


All on our only one planet,
Martin
39) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1629069)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile ML1
Maybe it isn't [only] CO2 ....
http://www.dailynews.com/environment-and-nature/20150114/methane-a-greenhouse-gas-found-at-higher-concentrations-above-la-pasadena

Limiting the Causation of Future Global Warming, just to CO2. And not taking into account, many, many, many other possibilities:

May be a horrible, and fatal, mistake.

Indeed so.

The focus is on CO2 because that is by far the greatest pollution with the greatest subsequent effect.

There are also other greenhouse gasses that are released by the Fossil Fuels industry and big agribusiness promoted 'intensive' farming practices that are also of significance and so far have been (deliberately?) "under-reported". Especially so for such as oil and gas well leaks, wasteful venting and "flaring", and all the venting from underground workings. Additionally, there are all the various other leaks to the atmosphere that cost the industry money to stop. The source material is "of no cost" and so I guess it is cheaper to pollute and hope not to get caught rather than not pollute.


And then there was and still is the mess from the infamous Macondo well recklessly-rushed-job disaster...

BP Deepwater Horizon fine capped at $13.8bn

... $13.8bn (£9bn) rather than the feared $18bn. The exact scale of the financial penalty for causing the worst offshore pollution incident in American history will not be known for some time, but BP is confident it will be lower still...

... stuck to an earlier judgement that the company was grossly negligent in the period leading up to the blowout of the Macondo well.

The judge also said there was no question that BP lied about the amount of oil that flowed from the well. The company told government officials the figure was 5,000 barrels a day when internal documents showed that officials knew the amount was significantly higher than this.

BP is still separately appealing in the courts against the gross negligence verdict...




And yet we allow our planet to be polluted to hell, and all for corruptly cheap.

All on our only one planet,
Martin
40) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1628193)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile ML1
Meanwhile, recently, we continue with ever more extremes of weather from springtime warmth that has set my garden into a ridiculously early bud and bloom to being lashed by a series of hurricane force storms to now suffer a sudden temperature drop and "thunder snow" and tornadoes.

Not seen that one before!


Weather: UK braced for mix of snow and gales

Wintry weather is causing disruption across parts of the UK, with warnings of severe gales in England later.

Snow has blocked some roads and led to several rail services being suspended in Scotland, while a tornado struck homes in Pembrokeshire in Wales...



Tornado and lightning bolt hit homes as Wales battered

A tornado has hit 24 homes and a bolt of lightning has struck two properties as severe weather battered Wales overnight...

... in Aberdare, Rhondda Cynon Taf, giant hailstones set off car alarms during a thunder storm...

... A rare phenomenon, thunder snow can happen where air is unstable and the layer close to the ground is warmer than those above, but still cold enough to create snow. When thunder snow occurs at night the lightning seems brighter - this is because the lightning reflects off the snowflakes...

... Between 3cm and 6cm of snow was forecast overnight, especially on high ground. A band of heavy rain is then due to move in bringing the risk of standing water and localised flooding...



What is thundersnow?

... Thundersnow has been reported in parts of Cornwall, South Wales, Tayside and Teesside...

... Basically, it is the same as a thunderstorm, except that snow falls instead of rain. It occurs when the atmosphere is unstable and the layer of air closest to the ground is cold enough to create snow, but still warmer than the air above it. "In this instance, the heating is coming from the sea which is still quite warm," says BBC weather presenter John Hammond. As the warm air rises, water droplets condense to form cumulonimbus clouds. Lightning occurs when these rub against each other, and thunder is the sound of the lightning.

It can look more spectacular than a normal electric storm...

... Thunderstorms are more likely to occur in warm, humid conditions and during the summer. But while thundersnow is relatively unusual...




Quite a mix over the last few days.

And we do seem to be getting more of the "unusual"...


All on our only one planet,
Martin


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