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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1804319)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Just thought that I would get back to you all with my dismal results after checking out all of the suggestions.

Unfortunately nothing worked and I am back to running the older version of Boinc.
At least I am able to run.

Perhaps sometime in the future I will come across some more clues and finally solve this unusual problem.

Thanks to all for giving it a shot!

Allen
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803980)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile AllenIN
One possible solution is to add a start up delay to your cc_config.xml file:

<start_delay>nseconds</start_delay>


I had to do this on one of my crunchers some time ago for much the same reason as you are suffering just now - I think I used a 120 second delay.
The delay gives the drivers time to get going properly before BOINC starts to do its system probing to see what hardware is available.

edit:
Under Windoze 7 the default location of cc_config is c:\ProgramData\BOINC (by default this folder is hidden)


Rob,

That didn't go so well. My c:\ProgramData\BOINC directory doesn't even have a cc_config.xml file in it. Do I need to make one?

Allen
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803978)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile AllenIN
One possible solution is to add a start up delay to your cc_config.xml file:

<start_delay>nseconds</start_delay>


I had to do this on one of my crunchers some time ago for much the same reason as you are suffering just now - I think I used a 120 second delay.
The delay gives the drivers time to get going properly before BOINC starts to do its system probing to see what hardware is available.

edit:
Under Windoze 7 the default location of cc_config is c:\ProgramData\BOINC (by default this folder is hidden)


Some things are just so darn finicky..guess that's another one I'll have to try and since it's the simplest, I guess I'll try it first.

Thanks!
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803975)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile AllenIN
The most useful link I've been able to find concerning "Problem Event Name:BEX64" issues.
What does event BEX64 mean?

There are some references that BEX stands for "Buffer Overflow Exception" and is somehow related to Data Execution Prevention.
...

Indicates a buffer overflow (/GS) or DEP exception (BEX64 indicates a buffer overflow (/GS) or DEP exception on 64-bit versions of Windows)

I translate that to a couple of programmes interfering with each other, and in this case the BOINC installer comes off second best.


Found another site, and there the issue relates to a programme having issues with extremely long file names on some folders. Remove the folder with the extremely long file name & no more BEX64 errors.

Very odd and interesting. Should I go hunting.....grin Perhaps I should!


Fixing BEX64 error nvcplui.exe

BEX64 NVcplui.exe and nvgames.dll error in manage 3d settings
In process monitor, it showed that the nvcplui.exe was for some reason interacting with these long named folders/directories. Many programs are not designed to recognize or handle long names like the above example and usually will crash. Sure enough that was the problem. I moved all my folders and personal stuff off the desktop and to a different partition (in this case D drive). I then relaunched the application and the manage 3d settings worked perfectly. To test if this was the problem, I put back the items I had moved off the desktop and launched the application again and sure enough it crashed at the manage3d settings.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803973)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

The only thing that comes to mind would be to re-download the new BOINC version, and make sure you've got the right one (32 or 64bit).

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php



EDIT- the only way to upgrade from a 32 to 64bit OS is a clean installation.



EDIT- Problem Event Name: BEX64 gives a few hits, and several of them relate to AV programmes and 3rd party programmes that monitor the system & interfere with the startup of the installer.


Hi Grant. I noticed that too, but disabled the AV program during installation and it makes me wonder why the old version 7.0.46 (I think) will work but not the newer ones.

The installation was a clean install to 64 bit Win7, but it was to the same disk drive that the older Vista 32 bit was on. I assume that Win7 automatically reformatted the drive on installation. I'm sure the new d/l of Boinc is 64 bit, but I will d/l it again and try to reinstall per your suggestion. Thanks!

Allen
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803836)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Yes Bob, it was. I was running an old version of Boinc on it at that time and when I upgraded to the newer version/s it would not or could not contact seti.
Now I have reverted back to the old version and it is running again. I would like to update though, to the new version of Boinc, but I don't yet know how.

Just before reading your post, I read another post and it gave me an idea as to what may have happened. You see, I was running this same hard drive in another system that was running 32 bit Vista, but I upgraded the system to Windows 7 64 bit. While you would think that everything on the drive would have been scrubbed when I loaded Win7, who really knows for sure.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


Edit: BTW, windows update did nothing for the problem.

Thanks!
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803796)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Okay, tried updating drives and got all the same errors even with the latest version of Boinc. *;(

Trying a reboot and if it still doesn't work I will look at Windose Updating..Ugh
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803794)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Odd thing is that no matter what version of Boinc I install, it fails to run.

Win7 has all it's Service packs & updates?
Anti virus programme might be tacking exception to BOINC and killing it's processes?
Did you select the option to "Allow all users on this computer to control NBOINC?"

Yes on thye Allow all users, but no up Windows updates.

BTW, I do keep getting this error when I investigate....

Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: boinc.exe
Application Version: 7.4.42.0
Application Timestamp: 54fdfbf1
Fault Module Name: boinc.exe
Fault Module Version: 7.4.42.0
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803792)
Posted 6 days ago by Profile AllenIN
I have found that I can get Boinc 7.0.64 to load but when I try newer versions they fail to make a connection.

I've read everyone's suggestions and I believe that it may be the graphics drivers since they are a bit on the old side. I will upgrade them and then see what happens and get back here to let you all know.

Thanks!!
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803198)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile AllenIN
I let windows install the drivers

AFAIK Windoz Nvidia drivers don't support cuda. Go to the Nvidia site to get your video driver.


Ya, that's what I thought too, but now I have the updated Nvidia GTX650Ti driver and it didn't change a thing.....rats!
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803197)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Might try to copy and post the startup messages from Boinc.
Could have some clues there.


There really aren't any, it just continually says that it is retrieving current status and I immediately get the error.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803186)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile AllenIN
chipset, which graphics drivers installed ?

"AIO Runtimes" often helped a lot to get this BOINC thing running...


Chipset is AMD A68H and it's a FM2+ MB.

Graphics is an Zotac GTX 650Ti. I let windows install the drivers. It's just the standard VGA adapter driver. Since it never even asks for login info, I doubt that it has anything to do with the graphics driver though.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc won't run on new install......HELP! (Message 1803179)
Posted 9 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Hello all!

Just setup a new system with a gigabyte MB, an Athlon X4 845 and Windows7.

Odd thing is that no matter what version of Boinc I install, it fails to run. I get a Boinc error that says Boinc client has stopped working and do I want to search for a solution of close the program. Even though I choose close the program, it continues to send me the error message until I actually close the program via the programs menu.

Any ideas why it won't run????

Thanks!

Allen
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800851)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Thanks one and all. That did the trick. No more automatic updating for me!!

That is the way it seems to me on my 2 W7 boxes, the W8.1 box has not yet been affected. What an insidious parasite M$ has produced.


I suspect it is a way to get people to upgrade to Windows 10.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800547)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Thanks one and all. That did the trick. No more automatic updating for me!!
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800543)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile AllenIN
I have an old AMD laptop running Vista that does the same thing.

I'm pretty sure it's Windows Update trying to scan for needed updates. It takes over 24 hours for it to run it's scan.

I stopped turning it on.



Sounds like I need to just turn it off to fix the problem.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800542)
Posted 23 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Which OS is it running? I had a Athlon dual core with Vista where it one day started doing that maybe 50% of the time at startup. I can't remember if it was only 1 core or both. But the service using the processor would show up in task manager. My best guess was my Windows Update was broken. Nothing I did fixed it.


Hey, that sounds like what is happening to me. I'm currently having trouble with MS Update as well. It doesn't ever download even when you ask it to and yes, it's Vista 32.

I'm guessing that it finally straightened itself out on your machine??
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800266)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Does it persist after a full power down reboot?


Yes, after several reboots and a video driver update too.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800265)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Suddenly at idle, it is showing 90% usage on one core and 20% on the other core. When I check in task mgr, nothing is running and nothing is taking over the system.

Is that with "Show all processes" selected?

If so i'd suggest getting Process Explorer & seeing what it shows.
High CPU usage, and nothing showing in Task Manager can be a sign of a Root kit.


Would that happen only on one core of the processor? I'll check it out with a root kit sniffer in the mean time. Thanks
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Something weird is happening (Message 1800225)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile AllenIN
Just recently, after a lightening storm which took out our power, I have a situation with one of my systems.

It's an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ .

Suddenly at idle, it is showing 90% usage on one core and 20% on the other core. When I check in task mgr, nothing is running and nothing is taking over the system.

Anyone ever see this before??

Thanks for any insight!

Allen


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