Posts by Changeling

1) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778529)
Posted 12 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
Thank you much for the help, very appreciated!

BTW

Dont worry if you are getting long runners.
GBT data should be sent to AMD GPU`s also and are expected to be merely VLARs.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778393)
Posted 12 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
Oops, no I missed his post between mine and yours. Feel really stupid on that.

OK, changes made, text added to file "mb_cmdline_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATi_HD5.txt", but file was empty to start with. Is that normal? Also left a second core open for the second instance. Now waiting to see results...

If you are still running 2 SETI@home tasks at once have you tried the parameters Mike suggested?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778326)
Posted 12 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
Update:

Using the DDU cleanup utility, I tried to reinstall (fresh, no overwrite)

14.12 again, no CCC installed, drivers installed, seti sees no graphic card and will not run GPU units

Another clean install

15.7.1 again CCC installed, seti sees graphic card, results out of 30 units processed, 14 errored out, 16 completed successfully.

Going to go back to 16.3, but that still had a 20% invalid rate for results.

Any more suggestions?
4) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778302)
Posted 12 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
[quote]When you say you "can't get CCC to install on anything below 15.7.1" are you trying to install a driver over another one, or trying to install a different version of the control center than the one that comes in the driver package? Or do you mean you can't use a driver older than Cat 15.7 because it is the first release to support the R9 380?


I did a clean install (used the amd official uninstaller and another 3rd party uninstaller after the amd one failed to fix the problem. Used on each reinstall, no attempts to install over older drivers.
I tried
4.12 no ccc installed, drivers installed, message from seti "no graphics card found"
4.4 no ccc installed, drivers installed, message from seti "no graphics card found"
15.7.1 ccc installed, drivers installed, all gpu work units immediately errored out.
16.2 Crimson control panel installed, drivers installed, invalid vs valid 40% vs 60%
16.3 Used currently, invalid vs valid roughly 20% vs 80%

on 4.12 and 4.4 I wasn't even given the option of installing the CCC control panel, no checkbox for it at all. People were having this problem and posting about it online. Tried all their suggestions, no ccc panel installed.
Again, all attempts were made after uninstalling the older drivers.

A tool you might want to use is DDU to clean out any mismatched driver components. Then you can do a clean driver install.


I have not tried DDU, but did used the official AMD uninstaller and another uninstaller people were recommending.

As far as driver release go I've used Cat 15.7, Cat 15.7.1, Crimson 15.12, & Crimson 16.3.2 with my R9 390X.
16.3.2 was an absolute mess. The first time I installed it the system crashed. After cleaning out the drivers and reinstalling I was having GUI lag issue. Even when not running BOINC. Just idle Windows desktop usage.
15.7, 15.7.1, & 15.12 were OK. 15.12 Had reduced CPU time for some projects vs 15.7.x. However with 15.12 I experienced a higher rate of crashes while playing games. So I have since gone back to 15.7.1.
I'm also using Cat 15.7.1 on my HD6870. I haven't found any differences vs Cat 14.12 when running work.


My other currently running rig, with a 7870 card is using version 4.12 and generates no invalids at all.

With the R9 380, I made multiple attempts at reinstalling over the course of a day and a half, the best situation I got was using 16.3, but again, that one is generating 20% invalids.

Don't know what to do, suppose I could try DDU, maybe it will work but I doubt it.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778253)
Posted 12 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
1 instance arrrgh, I ran 2 on a wimpy 6850, and are running 2 on a 7870. Add a few params sounds good to me. I leave one core free to control the gpu, I think the standard setting is .04 cpu's, do I need to increase that to maybe .1 or .2 perhaps? Or is there something else I can do?

As for the latest app, do you mean the AMD crimson control center?. I have 16.3, the latest version is 16.4.1 I was afraid to upgrade as I was worried it might make things worse again and at least 16.3 is sort of, mostly stable...

Thanks for replying Mike, also you too Brent

You have the same GPU that i have so we should get it fixed.
As i can see you are running 2 instances and thats about it.
You can either change to 1 instance or add a few params to comandline text file.
Best thing would be to upgrade to a more recent app version.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778187)
Posted 11 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
It's a brand new build, less that 2 months old, I think.
Also, the cpu's and the graphic card never go above 60c. I deliberately under clocked the GPU and set the fan to run manually so that it stays below 60c, usually running around 57-58c.

I don't beat up my equipment,want it to last a long time. The computer I have the most credit on was finally retired after 7 years with only 2 fan replacements during that whole time. I treat my builds gently. :--)

Have you tried cleaning the dust out of your computer?
It could be a heat problem.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : too many invalid amd gpu units (Message 1778165)
Posted 11 Apr 2016 by Profile Changeling
Currently running Radeon 16.3. Computer "Wedge"-Typical results tend to be 200 valid, 50 invalid. My other active computer "Storm Trooper" gets 0 invalids.

I have tried reverting to older drivers, I cannot get CCC to install on anything below 15.7.1. The drivers install, just not CCC. Seti doesn't see a graphics card without CCC. I have searched the internet, being unable to get CCC installed on older versions is a common problem. I have used both AMD's registry scrubber and another one written by a frustrated AMD user. Spent roughly 1.5 days trying to deal with this, no luck.

Running 15.7.1 or 16.1 was a disaster with valid results being at most around 60% and often considerably worse. So 16.3 is a big improvement, but still getting a large amount of invalids.

Reinstalling the OS is not an option, too much time needed for that on an active computer. My other active comp is using a much older version of CCC, and has not been updated, under the principle of "don't fix it if it isn't broke". It has no problems at all.

Any suggestions?...Please...Will give 100,000 internet points for a solution!
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse v6 errors out every time?? :-/ (Message 1330654)
Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Changeling
OK, thank you again. I installed the suggested AMD driver updates and reinstalled lunatics on the Vista machine. Will wait and see if this fixes the problem.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse v6 errors out every time?? :-/ (Message 1330275)
Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile Changeling
He has two computers with the opposite problem. One is using way too much CPU the other isn't using any CPU at all. Both are probably using the old version AP 555, at least one is. Maybe you can talk him through updating to at least AP r1316.

The computer using a lot of CPU is suffering from the ATI/AMD 100% CPU usage Bug that AMD had from Cat 11.7 to ~11.10, If he upgrades to Cat 12.1 (and no later, since OpenCL is deprecated for XP from Cat 12.2) CPU usage should be reduced,
but he then might want to free a core so he doesn't suffer from the low GPU usage Bug, ::)

Claggy


thank you for the quick response!

I have no idea how you can tell that my cpu usage is too much or not enough...
explain please. I run normal seti units on the cpu cores. Of my active 2 computers, one is an old 4 core running the XP os, the second is a not much newer 2 core cpu running vista 64bit. I checked my Vista machine and the amd driver for it is 11.6, for the xp machine it is 11.1. Both machines run fine as is for my usage, so I tend to do the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" with regard to drivers...I am not computer illiterate, I built both these machines from scratch, but in some areas my knowledge can be spotty...

So what do you think I need to do?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Astropulse v6 errors out every time?? :-/ (Message 1330253)
Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Changeling
OK, running optimized lunatics apps version .40.

On one of my computers I always have problems with astropulse v6. Not the enhanced 6.10, that always runs ok. I recently had to do a rebuild of the os, before the rebuild the v6's would always cause BSOD, so I stopped running them. Now with the os bumped up to 64bit and more memory (6gb)they just error out.

I have a radeon 6850 graphics card.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6887782

the above computer

suggestions anyone?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : linux or windows best for optimised app? (Message 800610)
Posted 22 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling

Nice, $90 saved. "AK V8" already on our other boxes. Thanks for the info...:-D
Now if I can just get to sleep...insomnia is evil!!!!


If this is purely a crunching box, you save yourself some more $$$ by using on-board video or a low-end video card. No sense spending good money on a gaming video card if you're just going to be crunching.


The motherboard I ordered didn't have on-board video, but I only got a $50 video card. It will work fine for everything except the latest generation of shooters.

I was also able to recycle an old copy of windows xp from a 6 yr old Pentium 4 space heater that is going to charity. So it is now a dual boot linux/xp box, just finished it today. Everything worked right off that bat, holding my breath for stability. First time ever building from the ground up. WHEEEEEEEE...

That was fun.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : linux or windows best for optimised app? (Message 800362)
Posted 21 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
My wife and I are building our first from the ground up computer, a quad 6600 SETI/Rosetta cruncher. On the cheap... Linux ubuntu 8.04 has a better price :-) than OEM Windows XP or Vista, but does anyone know which one will run the optimized SETI app faster. If the differences are really minor, we'll just use Linux, at least for now.

So, anyone have any info?


Check the Top Hosts... go ahead and start with Ubuntu...(it's free)... Optimized Linux SETI is about the same speed as on Windows... Just make sure that it's "AK V8" for best results... ;-)

Cheers,
JDWhale


Nice, $90 saved. "AK V8" already on our other boxes. Thanks for the info...:-D
Now if I can just get to sleep...insomnia is evil!!!!
13) Message boards : Number crunching : linux or windows best for optimised app? (Message 800338)
Posted 21 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
My wife and I are building our first from the ground up computer, a quad 6600 SETI/Rosetta cruncher. On the cheap... Linux ubuntu 8.04 has a better price :-) than OEM Windows XP or Vista, but does anyone know which one will run the optimized SETI app faster. If the differences are really minor, we'll just use Linux, at least for now.

So, anyone have any info?
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Boincstats now updating (Message 799533)
Posted 18 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
24/7 until it melts or the warranty runs out (in Nov this year). It does better than my quad cruncher which can't even get 2 times the credit even though it is .5 ghz faster, and has better memory. Must be the smaller cache on the Q9300.

I took a year off from crunching to "save the environment" some, but in the end the evil addiction got me again...

Later
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Boincstats now updating (Message 799468)
Posted 18 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
My second best machine is a Dell laptop core 2 @2.0 ghz. It puts out 1700 credits a day. If you are a stat junkie (I admit I am) you might want to get the optimized Seti app. Your core 2 @2.5 ghz should do even better than mine. Of course it might get a little hot! I use a laptop cooler with 2 fans under mine.

Later...

Great! Now I can finally see how my rivals in my Sign Up Group fared during the last 5 days... ;)

16) Message boards : Number crunching : Boincstats now updating (Message 799434)
Posted 17 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
working again, fixed on a Sunday? NICE!!
39,000+ credits in one pop....
17) Message boards : Number crunching : No updates to stats pages??? (Message 797533)
Posted 14 Aug 2008 by Profile Changeling
Same here, no updates to stats and the few seti uploads I have seem to be unable to get through now. :-(

Anyone else having trouble with the stat pages? None of the pages have updated my SETI results for last 4 days.

18) Message boards : Number crunching : HT on or off? (Message 302223)
Posted 11 May 2006 by Profile Changeling
One thing to consider, if the computer is a laptop with a p4 intel chip, you may get overheating problems. My fastest cruncher is a laptop, when I turn on HT, it gets way too hot, and the fan screams all the time. I leave it off. Just my opinion. :-)
19) Message boards : Number crunching : failed mem upgrade renders wu's invisible to boinc (Message 268427)
Posted 25 Mar 2006 by Profile Changeling
BTW, I have a much too full life to respond to or engage in flame wars.

Enjoy your life, don't expect me to respond to you further.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : failed mem upgrade renders wu's invisible to boinc (Message 268425)
Posted 25 Mar 2006 by Profile Changeling
Aactually..you asked for suggestions. You came here looking for help. If you don't want help, no problem. Kiss my A$$.


No sense of humor I see. I won't speak to your manners. The help I asked for came in the 1st 2 posts to respond to me. It was never about my computers, but about the workunits not being recognized by Boinc.



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