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1) Message boards : Technical News : Quiet Lab (Jul 26 2012) (Message 1270585)
Posted 750 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
I used to have an RSS feed that showed only the Technical News. It seems to have been lost during the recent upgrade. The main SETI News RSS is working fine. Would it be possible to restore this sometime soon? Thanks!

We at SETI@Netherlands would also like to have the RSS feed back please. We use it to inform our users about the tech news
2) Questions and Answers : Web site : Units of Measure for Recent Average Credit (Message 1041308)
Posted 1420 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
RAC is the average daily credit based on the past results where most recent credits count more then older credits.

See: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Computation_credit
3) Message boards : Number crunching : S@h_BETA 'faked'? I can't log-in with Firefox (Message 1031350)
Posted 1455 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
The login process uses https protocol. It presents a certificate to you browser so your browser knows it is the website it is suposed to be.
The name for which the certificate is issued (setibase.ssl.berkeley.edu) as present on the current certificate does not match the exact address (http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/) off the website. Also the certificate is a so called self signed certificate. i.e. a certificate created by berkeley itself, as opposed by a certificate provided by a certificate authority (i.e. verisign and the likes).

Modern browsers warn you that this is not in compliance whit how certificats are suposed to be used.
You can check the certificate by looking at its detail, check the address in your browser and if you think everything is OK then add an exception allowing your browser to accept this certificate.

4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem reporting tasks (Message 1021783)
Posted 1491 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
@Hellsheep, solving the "can not connect error" is indeed beyond our control (apart from retrying over and over ;)) However the "HTTP internal server error" is returned by the server. So in those cases the connection did succeed. This error is found to be related to a reference in onces app_info.xml file to the old AP version. Appearantly the update to the server sided software on July the 26th does not take into account that reference anymore.

Since this is a referal to an optimized application on the windows platform, only those clients who installed that particular version of the optimized client are affected.
Removing the entry for optimized AP versions other then v505 will solve it for now.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem reporting tasks (Message 1021602)
Posted 1492 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
I found that in my case the HTTP Server internal error was related to my app_info.xml file. This contained references to older application versions which are no longer used. (the content of app_info.xml is reported on any update)
It seems to me that the server update from the 26th of July caused some obsolete application versions to be invalid. In stead of reporting an invalid application it crashes causing a internal server error.

Removing the references to the obsolete applications from my app_info.xml solved this issue for me. The next update completed succesfully and my wu's are reported.
6) Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010) (Message 979380)
Posted 1630 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
Hey, but this woman (S@H) tells you before the marriage that she wil not allways be there for you. She even provides you with a list of available secondary (not russian) brides. So just go for it and keep your cpu's hot and ready ;)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI@Netherlands 10 year challenge & Gauntlet! (Message 924750)
Posted 1849 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
Let's roll, the Gauntlet will be starting on September the 25th.

All info can be found on: http://www.seti.nl/content.php?c=gauntlet_2009&language=1

Inform your team, create a gauntlet subteam and enter it here: http://forum.seti.nl/showthread.php?t=15487 before September the 18th.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Because of the new opt. app., no 5.28 WUs? (Message 633253)
Posted 2554 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
I have no problems with receiving 5.28 using the optimised version. I'm running on win32.
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 532776)
Posted 2724 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
<...>Actually, it is more likely that you have a large cache, and 5.8.11 is correctly determining that you are going to have trouble meeting deadlines before your next promissed connection. (only one setting available, and it is used to describe how long the network will be off between user initiated connections.)

No this has nothing to do with the cache. As you can see in my original post BOINC is trying to download a WU but the actual transfer does not succeed.

I had a look in my firewall log and it showed time-outs on a cogent server??? I don't have a hosts file set-up and running tracert on setiboincdata does not route via cogent.
Is there a config file within boinc holding route info?

10) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 532660)
Posted 2724 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
<...>
This again sounds like a packet size issue.

Have you tried the ping with the various sizes?


Up to packet size 1440 included, everything works fine respons times up to 175ms.
At size 1472 and higer it times out.

OK, try setting the MTU value on your router to 1440 to see what happens.

Well i have been through almost all MTU and RWIN settings but still no luck.
However i realised that, after i upgraded boinc on this PC from 5.4.11 to 5.8.8, i had not seen it download a new WU yet. It did finish, upload and report the ones present.
So i have just removed boinc 5.8 and re-installed version 5.4.11 and lo and behold 2 WUs downloaded without any problems and it's happily crunching them...

So something must have changed in the download routines between 5.4 and 5.8 wich my win98 environmentcan not cope with. Any ideas??
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 530430)
Posted 2729 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
<...>
This again sounds like a packet size issue.

Have you tried the ping with the various sizes?


Up to packet size 1440 included, everything works fine respons times up to 175ms.
At size 1472 and higer it times out.
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 529810)
Posted 2730 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
No it's not. I even went to the trouble of de-installing boinc and removing the folder it sat in. Re-installed it and attached S@H.
It confirmed a succesfull project attachment, started downloading the initial files and 2 wus and then got stuck again. It has about 8 downloads on the transfer tab including the application exe and the wu data. It tries downloading 2 of them, times out and goes to the next 2, times out and goes to the next. This continues infinitly with ever increasing pauses.
It looks as if this PC can not connect to some servers, however pinging setiboincdata from it returns within 30 to 40 ms.
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 529672)
Posted 2730 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
^-^

This one comp still has this problem. Any ideas anyone?

Wolter
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : Why can't i upload/download from SETI? (Message 526879)
Posted 2736 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
I recently noticed that one of my PC's could not download WU's anymore. All processed work was uploaded succesfully and reported.
I found this when i was going to update it from 5.8.4 to 5.8.15.
After the update the problem remained so i detached S@H, removed its folder and xml files.
Then re-attached to the project. It states that attaching is succesful but it does not download all the files.
below some lines from the message tab:
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3/5/07 19:20:20|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS
3/5/07 19:20:20|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.208
3/5/07 19:20:22||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
3/5/07 19:21:07||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS: system connect
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file setiathome_5.15_AUTHORS
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.208: system connect
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.208
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file arecibo_181.png
3/5/07 19:21:07|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file sah_40.png
3/5/07 19:21:08||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
3/5/07 19:21:08|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished download of file sah_40.png
3/5/07 19:21:08|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 7143 bytes/sec
3/5/07 19:21:08|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file sah_banner_290.png
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished download of file arecibo_181.png
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 24954 bytes/sec
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished download of file sah_banner_290.png
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 36779 bytes/sec
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file sah_ss_290.png
3/5/07 19:21:09|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.222
3/5/07 19:21:12|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Finished download of file sah_ss_290.png
3/5/07 19:21:12|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 18960 bytes/sec
3/5/07 19:21:13|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file setiathome_5.15_windows_intelx86.exe
3/5/07 19:21:56||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
3/5/07 19:21:57||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
3/5/07 19:21:57|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.222: system connect
3/5/07 19:21:57|SETI@home|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of file 02se03ab.14187.5858.723566.3.222
3/5/07 19:21:59|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file libfftw3f-3-1-1a.dll
3/5/07 19:22:00||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
3/5/07 19:22:00|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of setiathome_5.15_windows_intelx86.exe: system connect
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As you can see some of the grafics files are downloaded succesfully but sofar none of the application or WU's get thru.

Ping result seems OK.
Pinging setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 208.68.240.14: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=245
Reply from 208.68.240.14: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=245
Reply from 208.68.240.14: bytes=32 time=171ms TTL=245
Reply from 208.68.240.14: bytes=32 time=173ms TTL=245

This concerns a win98 PC without any hosts references. It is located in a home network where other PC's get data without any problems. It also runs Einstein without any problems.

Any suggestions on what to check next would be appreciated

Wolter
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : Service instalation (Message 103024)
Posted 3417 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
I just tried to use this method but i get an error pop up stating: Error 1609 stating that LocalSystem is not a valid user.
Any ideas how to get round this?
16) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Lost Credit?. Please add your support (Message 85029)
Posted 3461 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
Look here and read the section "What will happen to my workunit totals?"
It states: "and a section of our web site will show the final leaderboards based on old work totals"
This is the official website, with an official statement that the final classic totals will be shown. What more do you need?
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Project Upgrade to version 4.x (Message 18112)
Posted 3657 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
Why is the announcement for an upcomming major version upgrade only to be found on the message board? I think an entry on the homepage as well as on the RSSfeed would reach more users. Not everyone is a regular visitor here.
18) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Project ratio (Message 9867)
Posted 3695 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
How come then when I have seti@home on 99 and predictor at 1 that bionc asks the same amount of work from both s@h and predictor. It seems that it just calculates the amount of work needed based on maximum diskspace available and then request it from any project. The first one to respond with work available then gets to upload the lot.
My settings allows for 250 Mb of BOINC related data on my disk. With predictor at 1% it should get 2.5 Mb at the most. Its maximum so far however was well over 50 Mb ???
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Yeah!! Started to get some WU's again (Message 3412)
Posted 3713 days ago by Profile S@NL - BuddyWolly
Apart from the startup issues there is allways the following to consider:
from: "setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_about.php"
Finite work supply

Each work unit is now processed a limited number of times (typically three). When we have no work for your computer, you'll get a 'no work available' message. We encourage you to participate in other BOINC-based projects; then, when SETI@home has no work, your computer can stay busy doing other scientific research
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As you may know S@H classic has much more processing power then needed. So a lot of wu's where send out 10 times or more to keep us all busy. In Boinc a wu is processed not more then needed to get 3 results. Ater that it's gone. So when there are 100.000 wu's and 100.000 processors then everyone is finished after just 3 wu's. I think i might take a look at some other project as well.


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