The little bit extra you have to pay for a used 1080 over a used 1070 is worth it since the 1080 makes a huge jump over the 1070 in production and runtimes. Only costs you about 50W more in power usage.

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Greetings,

Ok, please, everyone, take a seat. Everyone sitting down? Good.

I just did a price check on Newegg for new 1080Tis and 2080Tis, all sellers. Stay away from the 1080Tis. Most are priced higher than the 2080Tis. I guess I will have to redact my "most bang for the buck" statement about the 1080Ti.

To think, before the RTX launch, new 1080Tis were going for $400-$600, give or take some. I guess that companies want to get as much for obsolete graphics cards as they can get.

EVGA does not have 1080Tis, but do list 1080s. They run from $500-$550.

Best Buy (Buy More) has 2080s for $800+ and 2080Tis for $1200+ no 1080s at all.

Looks to me like our next GPU upgrades are geared toward RTX.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Mike Hewson @ Einstein wrote:

In case this is not generally known, I will quote an admission by NVidia :

"Limited test escapes from early boards caused the issues some customers have experienced with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition.

We stand ready to help any customers who are experiencing problems.

Please visit http://www.nvidia.com/support to chat live with the NVIDIA tech support team (or to send us an email) and we’ll take care of it."

I presume 'test escapes' refers to quality control failure.

Users at Einstein add that those are cards dying completely after a few hours of use. I presume that the gamers are reverting to the 1080 range, unbalancing the projected price/volume curve.

The overpriced cards on Newegg are most certainly from 3rd party sellers. Just be a good capitalist and don’t give them your money. Only buy items sold by Newegg directly. This applies to Amazon as well.

I don’t have a problem buying used. So I open myself up to eBay and reddit private sales also, I almost exclusively buy EVGA cards though, which have transferable warranties and good quality control.

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The overpriced cards on Newegg are most certainly from 3rd party sellers. Just be a good capitalist and don’t give them your money. Only buy items sold by Newegg directly. This applies to Amazon as well.

I don’t have a problem buying used. So I open myself up to eBay and reddit private sales also, I almost exclusively buy EVGA cards though, which have transferable warranties and good quality control.

Hi Ian,

When I buy from Newegg and Amazon, I always make sure the item or items I am buying are sold and shipped buy Newegg and Amazon, unless I have no choice.

For the past few years I have been buy only EVGA cards. Actually, not long ago, I also got an AiO liquid cooler from EVGA. I do not like their fans however. I bought a pair of Corsair Mag Lev PWM fans from Newegg to replace them. The EVGA fan blades were rubbing on the grill between the radiator and fans. I wanted a push config, but had to settle for a pull due to the size of the VRM heat sink. :( I think the rad is much too thick, about an inch.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Users at Einstein add that those are cards dying completely after a few hours of use. I presume that the gamers are reverting to the 1080 range, unbalancing the projected price/volume curve.

My 2080 hasn't blown up yet on Einstein tasks. It and the 1080Ti ran a couple of tasks from the last campaign run with no issues. Around 6 minutes to complete. The new campaign run of 104X series just started. My 1080Ti ran them in about 4 minutes. The 2080 OTOH is now past 4 hours on its first 104X series task and about 98% complete. These are the kind of tasks that had been identified by the project volunteers running Turing cards of immediately erroring out under Windows. I am the first card to run that type of task on Linux. So no instant errors but the application is not running very well at all, no indeed, on that type task. I have a cc_config entry to add to my cc_config.xml file to exclude that card number from the Einstein application after this one task finishes and reports.

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That's a discussion for Einstein, but from your descriptions it sounds as if the application is falling back to running on CPU because it encounters problems running on the proper hardware. We had applications with a similar safety fallback here in the early days.

You should study std_err.txt for completed tasks carefully - there may be clues in there.

That's a discussion for Einstein, but from your descriptions it sounds as if the application is falling back to running on CPU because it encounters problems running on the proper hardware. We had applications with a similar safety fallback here in the early days.

You should study std_err.txt for completed tasks carefully - there may be clues in there.

Well since this one task is the only task so far run on the 2080 and it hasn't finished yet after 8 hours, I don't have a stderr.txt to look at. Currently at 99.991% and maybe it will finish in 9 hours.

[Edit] Actually I do. The task is in slot 10 and I posted the stderr.txt from that slot and the long-running task at Einstein in the PASCAL AGAIN AVAILABLE, TURING MAY BE COMING SOON thread

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Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

I run the Linux special app so only one task per card allowed.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

I run the Linux special app so only one task per card allowed.

same here.

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The overpriced cards on Newegg are most certainly from 3rd party sellers. Just be a good capitalist and don’t give them your money. Only buy items sold by Newegg directly. This applies to Amazon as well.

I don’t have a problem buying used. So I open myself up to eBay and reddit private sales also, I almost exclusively buy EVGA cards though, which have transferable warranties and good quality control.

Last year I bought a used Asus 970 Turbo, sure it has no warranty, but it does run, I bought a X79 Classified motherboard at one time and it did fail, Evga replaced the motherboard with an X79 Dark, it has run ever since without fail, ebay had My back, at least I did not buy from a seller selling a picture of something, I've been there and ebay had My back. Amazon well I've bought from there too and I've had a very good experience there too, though Amazon is harder to reach than ebay. I've also bought from specialty places that cater to over clockers, My Silverstone ST1500 1500w Silver rated psu came from one such place and it has never failed, all 225mm of the psu, though a pci-e cable did and was replaced under warranty, yep I have a Nuclear power plant type psu, it can handle 4 GTX580 cards which were power hungry, so I'm not worried.

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Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

At the moment I'm on Win7 with the r3557_SoG app.
I run two at time.

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Bruce

Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

At the moment I'm on Win7 with the r3557_SoG app.
I run two at time.

Smokin.

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Question for anyone running any RTX card: how many tasks do you ran per card?

At the moment I'm on Win7 with the r3557_SoG app.
I run two at time.

Bruce, can you tell me what you see typically for your core clock frequency while running the SoG app. Also what is the memory on the card clocking under compute load?

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Bruce, can you tell me what you see typically for your core clock frequency while running the SoG app. Also what is the memory on the card clocking under compute load?

Hi Keith,
According to GPU-Z 2.13 my GPU Core Clock runs between 1905 and 1920 MHz on both.
The GPU Memory Clock runs at 1700 MHz on both.
GPU Temps average about 150F to 155F with fans at 50%. (room temp 75F)
Memory used is about 4735 MB.
Of coarse this can very a little bit depending on the different WU make up.

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Bruce

for anyone in the US looking for a decent deal on an RTX card.

EVGA's ebay store has the RTX 2070 XC Black for $529.99 with free shipping. Use code "PHLDAYTEN" for another 10% off. making the price $476.99

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Bruce, can you tell me what you see typically for your core clock frequency while running the SoG app. Also what is the memory on the card clocking under compute load?

Hi Keith,
According to GPU-Z 2.13 my GPU Core Clock runs between 1905 and 1920 MHz on both.
The GPU Memory Clock runs at 1700 MHz on both.
GPU Temps average about 150F to 155F with fans at 50%. (room temp 75F)
Memory used is about 4735 MB.
Of coarse this can very a little bit depending on the different WU make up.

Thanks Bruce, that aligns with what I see. I run Linux so I see my memory clock different than Windows7. If I do 1700 X 8 that equals 13600Mhz which is where my card runs under compute load. Did you notice the power state the card runs under? The power states are defined differently in Windows and in Linux. What surprised me was that Turing has four discrete power states compared to only three in Pascal cards.

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I want a Hybrid one! Any idea when they will be available?

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No telling unfortunately :(.

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