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Message 1925920 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 3:51:38 UTC

Could a lot of those customers be the poor white working class that forms the core of my support?


I'm POOR, WHITE, OLD, VOTED fO BIG BIG BIG HANDs, LONG BLACK COAT Wearin', CHEESEBurgerCHOMPIN' GREATEST BEST LEADER of ALL TIME,

and I Say: LET's GO TO WAR.

I DON't NEED NO CHEAP CHINESE SHAT.

F**K CHINA

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Message 1925930 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 4:59:01 UTC - in response to Message 1925919.  

I do like it when stupid politicians?? don't step back a little and put in a bit more thought.

Like;
Which stores sell these cheap Chinese imports I am about to impose tariffs on?
Who shops at these stores?
Who buys the cheapest items in these stores?
Could a lot of those customers be the poor white working class that forms the core of my support?

What did Rumpers tariff from EU? Aluminum. What did China tariff from USA? Aluminum. Looks like the EU is going to be selling to China now and the USA gets shut out of the market.
"Its easy to win a trade war."
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Message 1925952 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 6:22:28 UTC - in response to Message 1925930.  

I do like it when stupid politicians?? don't step back a little and put in a bit more thought.

Like;
Which stores sell these cheap Chinese imports I am about to impose tariffs on?
Who shops at these stores?
Who buys the cheapest items in these stores?
Could a lot of those customers be the poor white working class that forms the core of my support?

What did Rumpers tariff from EU? Aluminum. What did China tariff from USA? Aluminum. Looks like the EU is going to be selling to China now and the USA gets shut out of the market.
"Its easy to win a trade war."

Plus Trump wants to revive the coal industry, but the US doesn't need anymore coal, so export it. But the main markets for coal include China., who will no doubt stick a great big tariff on it.
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Message 1925987 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 12:29:09 UTC

There is only some support for Trump's claim of the Chinese trade surplus really damaging the US economy.
The macroeconomic homework that the White House seems to have missed is that for every job you save with its steel and aluminum tariffs, 200 jobs can be lost because huge sectors like the American car, energy and construction industry are increasing manufacturing costs when they are dependent on imported steel and aluminum.
These are industries that employ 80 times as many as the US steel industry.

China is concerned with the US's trade barriers but is open to negotiations.
China's tariffs will only be put into operation if negotiations with the United States doesn't lead somewhere.
China does not want to escalate the conflict, "said Susan Ritzén, Asiatic correspondent in Yiwo, China.
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Message 1925996 - Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 13:42:27 UTC - in response to Message 1925987.  

There is only some support for Trump's claim of the Chinese trade surplus really damaging the US economy.
The macroeconomic homework that the White House seems to have missed is that for every job you save with its steel and aluminum tariffs, 200 jobs can be lost because huge sectors like the American car, energy and construction industry are increasing manufacturing costs when they are dependent on imported steel and aluminum.
These are industries that employ 80 times as many as the US steel industry.

China is concerned with the US's trade barriers but is open to negotiations.
China's tariffs will only be put into operation if negotiations with the United States doesn't lead somewhere.
China does not want to escalate the conflict, "said Susan Ritzén, Asiatic correspondent in Yiwo, China.

Of course. A Rump brain can only understand two data points because it is binary. It can't understand three data points.
So all it sees is cheap steel price and steel worker out of job. It can't process at the same time cheap steel price dozens of auto workers have job. The IQ of a Rump brain does not extend that far because it isn't a binary problem. Meaning it can't get macroeconomics or anything past a tiny family business, er didn't Obama warn us about that?
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Message 1926287 - Posted: 24 Mar 2018, 15:02:23 UTC

Continued fall in stock markets, higher prices for imports - and, in the worst case, an economic crisis. It can be the consequences of the booming trade war between the US and China. But about the future is hard to say.
"We have a completely unknown capacity in Donald Trump, who knows what he will do? says Professor Lars Jonung.
Stock markets doesn't like uncertainties!
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Message 1927875 - Posted: 3 Apr 2018, 2:32:27 UTC

Dow Jones falls 450 points on news China announcing it's own tariff's . Chinese tariff's target Republican farms and trumps base supporters .

So Drump you going to win a trade war ???? One day he will realise that America only accounts for less than 30% of world trade in the 21st century unlike in the 20th century when America was 90% of world trade there will be no winners out of this
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Message 1927880 - Posted: 3 Apr 2018, 3:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1927875.  

For Rump to realize something he would have to take in information to a brain. That never happens.
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Message 1928218 - Posted: 5 Apr 2018, 23:52:09 UTC
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Trump the Genius from Karlstad again.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/381900-trump-considering-100-billion-in-additional-tariffs-on-china
Trump announced Thursday that he has directed officials in his administration to look at slapping $100 billion in additional tariffs on China, the latest move in an escalating trade dispute between Washington and Beijing.
"In light of China’s unfair retaliation, I have instructed the USTR to consider whether $100 billion of additional tariffs would be appropriate under section 301 and, if so, to identify the products upon which to impose such tariffs," Trump said in a statement, referring to the U.S. Trade Representative.
Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday to assert that the U.S. is "not in a trade war with China."
"We are not in a trade war with China, that war was lost many years ago by the foolish, or incompetent, people who represented the U.S. Now we have a Trade Deficit of $500 Billion a year, with Intellectual Property Theft of another $300 Billion. We cannot let this continue!"

Dow futures indicate more than 400 point drop at market open after Trump threatens more tariffs on China
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/dow-futures-indicate-more-than-400-point-drop-at-market-open-after-trump-threatens-more-tariffs-on-china.html
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Message 1928251 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 3:23:36 UTC - in response to Message 1928238.  

Lawless China is the problem for the world.
How is China "Lawless"?
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Message 1928279 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 9:23:10 UTC

How is China "Lawless"?
Eagerly awaiting the reply to that question. :-D

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Message 1928287 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 10:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 1928251.  

China has a lot of internal migrant workers.
The conditions for the 270 million internal migrant workers are difficult. Some reforms have been made of China's census registration system, the Hukou system, which provides improved access to various community services, such as health care. Despite the reforms, major challenges remain especially in local regions where state law and regulations often are ignored.
Many aren't not even paid minimum wages and some are not paid at all.
The problem is that the minimum wage can often not be lived on. What is called living wages is instead a salary that include food, healthcare, clothes, rent, education for the children, transport to work and a small saving to have a buffer.
The minimum wage in China is about $200 per month while a living wage is about $400 per month.
No western countries can compete with such cheap labor.

Example from earlier this year.
Employees of a brick factory in south-east China have not beeing paid their salary. But about 30 workers in Nanchang in Jiangxi Province have agreed to receive 290,000 bricks in exchange for 80,000 yuan (about $12,000) of what the company has owed.
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Message 1928315 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 13:52:08 UTC - in response to Message 1928287.  

Sounds like when Amerika was Great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0
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Message 1928324 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 14:28:10 UTC - in response to Message 1928315.  
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Sixteen Tons is a very popular song. Even in China and Taïwan:)
A version called "靜心等" (Jìng Xin Deng, "Wait patiently") is a well-known hit in Taïwan, interpreted by Chinese singer 張露 (Chang Loo or Zhang Lu) and by Teresa Teng (鄧麗君, Deng Lijun).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chy9yivTjsw

And in Russia:)

The club Sixteen Tons is named after a song that was composed by Merle Travis and dedicated to the hard labour of miners. The song 'Sixteen Tons' written in America in 1946 can be heard at the club - last call before each concert.
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Message 1928328 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 14:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 1928318.  

How is China "Lawless"?
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Message 1928331 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 15:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 1928330.  

Sorry Gary... Your excusal of China's economic and lawless dictatorship is...

He didn't excuse anyone he challenged your unfounded assertion. Stop deflecting!
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Message 1928334 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 15:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 1928330.  

How is China "Lawless?"
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Message 1928338 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 15:52:52 UTC - in response to Message 1928334.  

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Message 1928339 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 15:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 1928333.  

If you disagree. Please explain why Dictatorships and 19th Century Capitalist/Anti-Worker are lawful.

You're the one who made the assertion, the shoe is on your foot. I asserted nothing.
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Message 1928349 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 16:42:36 UTC - in response to Message 1928345.  

Why do you believe that a Dictatorship is lawful? I don't.

I didn't say that, why do you try to put words into the mouths of others, is it a Freudian thing with you?
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