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Message 1922100 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 14:14:30 UTC

Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.
The fact that Facebook stops artwork representing naked skin is nothing new. Among other things, 100-year-old nude photographs taken by Anders Zorn were stopped when the Photographic Museum opened an exhibition - about these pictures in 2015.
And even Copenhagen's little mermaid "Den Lille Havfrue"has been in a similar situation.!!!

Venus of Willendorf


Anders Zorn Swedish famous painter's nude studies.


Den Lille Havfrue a depiction from one of H C Andersson's children stories.


Unbelivable!!!!
A country censuring naked skin and allowing TV shows showing people kill other people en masse for entertainment!!!!

https://www.svt.se/kultur/facebook-stoppade-bilder-pa-tusenarig-staty-klassade-den-som-pornografisk
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Message 1922121 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 16:42:43 UTC
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Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.

Who actually makes these decisions or (understanding I am not a tech person) instituted these 'algorithms'.
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Message 1922122 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 16:45:58 UTC - in response to Message 1922121.  

That would be an American :-)
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Message 1922130 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 17:14:46 UTC - in response to Message 1922121.  

Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.

Who actually makes these decisions or (understanding I am not a tech person) instituted these 'algorithms'.

You know who they are:)
The "Moral Majority" in the US.
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Message 1922133 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 17:19:14 UTC - in response to Message 1922130.  

Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.

Who actually makes these decisions or (understanding I am not a tech person) instituted these 'algorithms'.

You know who they are:)
The "Moral Majority" in the US.

Facebook is Anti Right Wing and Anti Moral Majority.

Perhaps another confirmation that the extremist on both sides. Are as dangerous as those they attack.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Message 1922140 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 17:31:33 UTC - in response to Message 1922133.  

Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.

Who actually makes these decisions or (understanding I am not a tech person) instituted these 'algorithms'.

You know who they are:)
The "Moral Majority" in the US.

Facebook is Anti Right Wing and Anti Moral Majority.
Perhaps another confirmation that the extremist on both sides. Are as dangerous as those they attack.

It's not only Facebook.
And this has nothing to do about political angles
More like differences in cultures between the US and the rest of the world.
Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-79uI_u9Src
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Message 1922144 - Posted: 2 Mar 2018, 17:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 1922140.  

Venus of Willendorf, an 11 centimeter limestone statue discovered in Austria in 1908, is considered iconic in prehistoric art. And the figurine, estimated to be 22,000-24,000 years old, has become particularly noticeable because of its detailed and realistic expressions.
And now according to Facebook's statutes: too naked.

Who actually makes these decisions or (understanding I am not a tech person) instituted these 'algorithms'.

You know who they are:)
The "Moral Majority" in the US.

Facebook is Anti Right Wing and Anti Moral Majority.
Perhaps another confirmation that the extremist on both sides. Are as dangerous as those they attack.

It's not only Facebook.
And this has nothing to do about political angles
More like differences in cultures between the US and the rest of the world.
Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-79uI_u9Src

Well, responding from a Christian belief which I don't share.

Since a Christian believes that the only person to walk this planet who was without sin, was Jesus.

All humans, execpting Jesus, are 'Jerks' :)
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Message 1922660 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 4:23:45 UTC

I'm p**ed off.
Is Manneken Pis designed by Hiƫronymus Duquesnoy the Elder and put in place in 1618 or 1619 also something that cannot be published on a US website?
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Message 1922667 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 5:15:39 UTC
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Moomin, many things can't be published in the USA because of fear.
The Religious Right, acting through GOPers has put in place draconian laws. Lawyers tell their clients to avoid any possibility of getting near violating these laws.
One of these laws is about money laundering. You see if a company was to in some way profit because of one of these pictures, well, because the money commingled in their bank account, they lose everything.
What are they worried about? Some jesus freak jury in the bible belt that has a stricter requirement for females to be covered than Islamic State. So a bare nipple is felony obscenity.
If your website is obscene, then anything connected to it is money laundering. Government gets to take it all. Banks are terrified of this to the point they force web companies to censor.
(Same issue applies to weed shops. They can't use banks because the banks can't take the chance the Feds decide doing business with a weed shop is money laundering.)

But showing in super slow-mo a chain saw murder is fine, because there isn't a sex in that. Oh, and this also belongs in the gun thread as it is a real reason there are so many gun crimes in the USA.

<ed>Of course money laundering is going to bring down the Rump crime Syndicate, so it isn't all bad. In fact they used something similar to get Al Capone.
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Message 1922693 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 12:43:32 UTC - in response to Message 1922667.  

Religion:(
For example, if the Christian Right in the US and other moralists want to censor nudity and love depictions, you may also get along with the censorship pencil in the Bible.
Do these poetical texts from the Bible need to be rewritten or deleted so that they do not upset anyone?
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deermay her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

Song of Solomon 4:5
Your breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies

Song of Songs 4:10-11
10 How beautiful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much better is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your oils than any spice!
11 Your lips drip nectar, my bride; honey and milk are under your tongue; the fragrance of your garments is like the fragrance of Lebanon.

Not everyone in the US have this weird attitude to sex though:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6zHHn7JMKg
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Message 1922695 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 12:59:19 UTC - in response to Message 1922667.  

d>Of course money laundering is going to bring down the Rump crime Syndicate, so it isn't all bad. In fact they used something similar to get Al Capone.

Many similarities, syphilis may be an other.
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Message 1922700 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 13:13:57 UTC - in response to Message 1922695.  

From what I read Al Copone was charged of tax evasion.
However in the US at that time most citizens didn't pay tax at all.
Only people with an income over certain level paid tax.
Now Al didn't know about that:)

As for syphilis.
Having sexually transmitted diseases is very bad in the US.
He had it coming and was victimized big time:)
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Message 1922781 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 20:50:00 UTC

While I don't personally agree with censoring nude artwork on Facebook. I can see where certain situations would get way out of control. Thousands of nude selfies of our teenage population for instance.
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Message 1922783 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 21:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 1922781.  
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While I don't personally agree with censoring nude artwork on Facebook. I can see where certain situations would get way out of control. Thousands of nude selfies of our teenage population for instance.

Of course.
But what you refer to is called pornographics.
A totally different matter.
Even kids can tell the difference between nudity and pornographics.
Time for a sauna:)
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Message 1922791 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 21:47:47 UTC
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To further pointing out about the absurdity about nudity.
First look at a map of Sweden.

Then watch this weather report:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcf9szTNTbs
Or this sexual weather presentation. Hehe:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUEOfS0ekI
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