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Message 1915859 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 1915853.  

Oh,wow! Thanks! Got the link SoG builds?

You could run the Lunatics Installer 0.45 Beta6 app. ;-)

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Message 1915860 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 1915853.  

Oh,wow! Thanks! Got the link SoG builds?

http://mikesworld.eu/download.html
You want the 0.45 beta 6 installer
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Message 1915866 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 1915859.  

Many thanks...:)

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Message 1915867 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 1915860.  

Many thanks :)

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Message 1915870 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 1915867.  

Many thanks :)

No problem.
Pay close attention when running the installer, as the SoG app is not default and must be selected.
Good news is that is you mess up, you can always rerun the installer and get it right without blowing anything up, so it's all good. Later, Jim ...
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Message 1915909 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 5:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 1915788.  
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I can tell what I have exactly...I just run this at night when I am sleeping. So it runs 8hrs+

Power-Supply: Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watts Fully Modular Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified
Mother-Board: ASUS LGA1150 Z97-A ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor: Intel Core i7-4790K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB
Hard-Drive: Western Digital Blue 1TB SATA 7200 RPM 64MB Cache.
Video-card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked GDDR5 PCI-E Video Graphics Card, 4GB
I use the NVIDIA Drivers, not the Geforce Drivers. Nvidia Driver v390.77
Windows: Win 10 Prof. 64bit

This what I did exactly.

The software seems to DETECT what I have. I guess?

AstroPulse V7 CPU AVX Auto Selected.
Multibeam V8 CPU AVX Auto Selected.

Astropulse V7 ATI none selected.
Multibeam V8 ATI none selected.

AstropPulse V7 (Nvidia) Not selected I assume that is an option if want to run the AstroProject? I did click yes.
Multibeam v8 (NV-Cuda)

It auto selected the CUDA32 to recommend for Nvidia 9xxx series. I assume because I have a 970 card.
You mentioned about CUDA42 not sure why that showed up. I do not have a GTX 4 or 5 series card. (Baffling)

Next, I assume this for the Integrated Intel iCPU none is selected.

I started my BOINC App & did the update & this is what it shows.
I was doing 9 then drop to 1 now + 1 AstroPulse says 3 days to go. How interesting I could not do Astropulse before but now I can.
What I am saying I never did an Astropulse at all. I assume this software has something do with it now.
It is showing 0.04 CPU + 1 Nvidia GPU
The NEXT projects in line to do next is showing in 0.04 CPU + 1 Nvidia GPU Application CUDA50.

Your thoughts? You mention about crushing numbers well it seems to be working very fast to say.
Anyone else please comments if you wish...But man this helped allot so thank you very much...

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Message 1915910 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1915909.  
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Rerun the installer. In the video a gpu section, keep Astropluse selected, in Mulitbeam deselect cuda 32 and select SoG. Don’t worry about what it say in the bonic manager, when you finish the reinstall, all current gpu will switch to SoG even though it may still say cuda.
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Message 1915911 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 1915910.  

Done. When I was running the CUDA32 it was finishing up what I had & just came down just running 2 is that the idea? I just have a regular one & that Astropulse & sure is running allot faster that's for sure thanks for the help.

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Message 1915912 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 1915911.  
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Done. When I was running the CUDA32 it was finishing up what I had & just came down just running 2 is that the idea? I just have a regular one & that Astropulse & sure is running allot faster that's for sure thanks for the help.

Best to run 1 WU at a time to see what the card is capable of.
You can also make use of command line variables to improve performance. Once you've got it running 1 at a time as it's best possible speed, then see how 2 at a time goes.
With SoG each GPU WU being processed needs a CPU core to support it for maximum performance.

Reserving 1 CPU core will also help reduce any impact on CPU processing times by not over committing the system.

Edit- make sure you have selected the AVX application for the CPU- will get another 30%+ boost in CPU performance using it.

To reserve a CPu core for each GPU WU being processed.
In your
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
create a new file (with Notepad) and name it
app_config.xm
and put the following contents in it.

<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
 <app>
  <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>


In the BOINC manager, use Options, Read config files to get it to use those settings.
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Message 1915913 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 1915912.  

He should be able to run 2 at a time on that card if he doesn't mind the noise and Heat on it. But he will have to run a command line to get the most out of it. Remember the 970 only have 3.5 GB of usable memory. I'd also probably use a max concurrent to free up a core or 2 for the GPU. We can talk about that later. For now, let it run and finish up what he has. Don't know when we will get more work so he can fine tune it
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Message 1915916 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 1915912.  
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Done. When I was running the CUDA32 it was finishing up what I had & just came down just running 2 is that the idea? I just have a regular one & that Astropulse & sure is running allot faster that's for sure thanks for the help.

Best to run 1 WU at a time to see what the card is capable of.
You can also make use of command line variables to improve performance. Once you've got it running 1 at a time as it's best possible speed, then see how 2 at a time goes.
With SoG each GPU WU being processed needs a CPU core to support it for maximum performance.

Reserving 1 CPU core will also help reduce any impact on CPU processing times by not over committing the system.

Edit- make sure you have selected the AVX application for the CPU- will get another 30%+ boost in CPU performance using it.

To reserve a CPu core for each GPU WU being processed.
In your
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
create a new file (with Notepad) and name it
app_config.xm
and put the following contents in it.

<app_config>
 <app>
  <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
 <app>
  <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  <gpu_versions>
  <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
  <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
  </gpu_versions>
 </app>
</app_config>


In the BOINC manager, use Options, Read config files to get it to use those settings.



Since he's running a newer BOINC he might want to try the newer app_config.xml

<app_config>
  <app_version>
    <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
    <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_SoG</plan_class>
    <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
    <ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
    <cmdline>-sbs 768 -period_iterations_num 10 -hp -high_prec_timer -high_perf -tt 500</cmdline>
  </app_version>
   <app_version>
     <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
     <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
     <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
      <ngpus>0.5</ngpus>
      <cmdline>-unroll 28 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 256 -ffa_block 12288 -ffa_block_fetch 6144 -tune 1 64 4 1 -tune 2 64 4 1 -hp </cmdline>
   </app_version>
 <project_max_concurrent>7</project_max_concurrent>
</app_config>

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Message 1915920 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 1915916.  

Since he's running a newer BOINC he might want to try the newer app_config.xml

I prefer to keep it simple.
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Message 1915924 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 7:23:58 UTC - in response to Message 1915916.  
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I did the config file & saved both of them. Many thanks...

P.S. I can run 2 jobs with no issues. Now even though I have 7 fans that include the CPU fan & video card fans. It never overheats at all.

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Message 1915935 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 10:39:48 UTC

Also that when some people choose to shout or even scream, there always should be a reason for why there could be no response back in return,
and for such a thing I could blame project management, if not the project itself.

Making it such a thing and it still could be the user experience, but next you could also be left with the other alternative, who chooses to keep silent for a similar reason,
and therefore not being any responsive at all.
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Message 1915939 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 23:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 1915924.  

I did the config file & saved both of them. Many thanks...

P.S. I can run 2 jobs with no issues. Now even though I have 7 fans that include the CPU fan & video card fans. It never overheats at all.


Times look good. I can see that you finished 2 OpenCl before Seti went down. See commandlines took in the last work unit that reported.
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Message 1915956 - Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 0:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 1915939.  
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Hopefully, I can run it 12hrs straight get a real RAC out of it as long the splitters do not go down again.

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Message 1915958 - Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 0:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 1915956.  

Hopefully, I can run it 12hrs straight get a real RAC out of it as long the splitters do not go down again.

Looking much better!
Don't expect RAC to move all that quickly. It often takes a week or so to see significant changes, due to how it's calculated. Don't quote me, but I think it's like a 30 day running average? (Anyone feel free to correct/clarify)
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Message 1915985 - Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 4:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1915958.  

Hopefully, I can run it 12hrs straight get a real RAC out of it as long the splitters do not go down again.

Looking much better!
Don't expect RAC to move all that quickly. It often takes a week or so to see significant changes, due to how it's calculated. Don't quote me, but I think it's like a 30 day running average? (Anyone feel free to correct/clarify)

Without major system outages, major hardware changes take about 2 months for RAC to "stabilise."
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Message 1915988 - Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 4:19:26 UTC - in response to Message 1915939.  

Times look good.

Yeah, 45min instead of 1hr 22min for a CPU WU, with only a few seconds difference between Run time & CPU time instead of 10min I would consider to be a significant improvement.
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Message 1916138 - Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 20:02:57 UTC

Thanks to Zalsters help & others the Lunatics SoG Build & custom XML App_Config has really made it go allot faster my RAC has increased & according to Zalster I avg about 7 minutes on GPU. (Geforce 970) Just one PC try to run it between 8-12hrs a day.

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