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Message 1915637 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 19:48:19 UTC

One of mine actually has increased the last 3 days (slightly) the others are still dropping.
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Message 1915638 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 19:53:04 UTC

My RAC seems to have started to climb, albeit slowly. Just since the BLC05s got replaced by 02s and 03s.
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Message 1915640 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 19:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 1915632.  

Self inflicted punishment for using high end GPUs.


One only needs to look at my Comp stats definitely not high end GPU..
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Message 1915645 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 20:18:51 UTC - in response to Message 1915641.  

I have decided not to hold my breath until my face turns purple but you have my permission if you so choose to.
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Message 1915650 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 21:01:29 UTC
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I know a lot of you aren't going to like this but my daily production hasn't really changed any. Probably because I've not used any of the tools others. Yes, looking at current RAC it's lower, but that's because work has be sporadic over the last 3 weeks. Extended server down time, lack of work units. But looking at Free DC for daily production is about where it's always been. If work continues to be available and barring any server issues, I expect the 3 machines that I currently have here to be at #3,4,5 (the other 3 are off on another project so they should be dropping down the list) Only Juan's top machine should be #2 unless his linux gives him any more trouble.
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Message 1915655 - Posted: 28 Jan 2018, 21:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 1915650.  

Just seems to be the usual YMMV.
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Message 1915699 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 1:11:24 UTC - in response to Message 1915655.  

Just seems to be the usual YMMV.
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Indeed. Mine has been slowly on the rise for about two weeks.
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Message 1915725 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 4:55:36 UTC - in response to Message 1914856.  


Some form of consistency within and then across projects would be awesome.
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I would be more than pleased just to have it consistent within Seti's own borders.

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Message 1915736 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 7:01:14 UTC - in response to Message 1915650.  

I know a lot of you aren't going to like this but my daily production hasn't really changed any. Probably because I've not used any of the tools others. Yes, looking at current RAC it's lower, but that's because work has be sporadic over the last 3 weeks. Extended server down time, lack of work units.

The problem is purely due to Credit New.
My C2D is so slow that it doesn't run out of work, with either the weekly outage or those other unexpected outages. It's RAC has gone from over 14,000 to just over 9,000. My i7 just does Seti, no other projects. No rescheduling, no tweaking of clocks or command line settings. It had an RAC of just under 55,000. It's now down to 37,000.
The simple fact is that WUs that used to get 90-100 are now getting around 55-60. And our RAC is reflecting that.
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Message 1915766 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 13:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 1915736.  

I know a lot of you aren't going to like this but my daily production hasn't really changed any. Probably because I've not used any of the tools others. Yes, looking at current RAC it's lower, but that's because work has be sporadic over the last 3 weeks. Extended server down time, lack of work units.

The problem is purely due to Credit New.
My C2D is so slow that it doesn't run out of work, with either the weekly outage or those other unexpected outages. It's RAC has gone from over 14,000 to just over 9,000. My i7 just does Seti, no other projects. No rescheduling, no tweaking of clocks or command line settings. It had an RAC of just under 55,000. It's now down to 37,000.
The simple fact is that WUs that used to get 90-100 are now getting around 55-60. And our RAC is reflecting that.

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Message 1915776 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 14:57:39 UTC
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My average is about 55.00 Credit each one. What is the real Average? I do 9 at a time and average of 1hr 30 minutes...WOW! You would think you deserve more credit than that...
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Message 1915788 - Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 18:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 1915776.  
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My average is about 55.00 Credit each one. What is the real Average? I do 9 at a time and average of 1hr 30 minutes...WOW! You would think you deserve more credit than that...

By looking your crunching times we could tell your CPU is overcommitment. If you run less tasks at the time the remaining will run faster.
Who many is hard to tell without testing but sure if you are running 8 CPU + 1 GPU is not the best. But first see the next lines.
On the other hand you still using an old Cuda42 on your GPU. Install the SoG builds and you will crunch a lot more WU per day than now. And not forget you need to leave at least one core free to feed the GPU.
By doing this your average credit per WU will remain in the 55 range (that's is thanks to the CreditScrew mess) but you will crunch a lot more WU so your RAC will be increase.
As always YMMV
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Message 1915853 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 0:42:29 UTC - in response to Message 1915788.  

Oh,wow! Thanks! Got the link SoG builds?

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Message 1915859 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 1915853.  

Oh,wow! Thanks! Got the link SoG builds?

You could run the Lunatics Installer 0.45 Beta6 app. ;-)

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Message 1915860 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 1915853.  

Oh,wow! Thanks! Got the link SoG builds?

http://mikesworld.eu/download.html
You want the 0.45 beta 6 installer
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Message 1915866 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 1915859.  

Many thanks...:)

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Message 1915867 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 1915860.  

Many thanks :)

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Message 1915870 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 1:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 1915867.  

Many thanks :)

No problem.
Pay close attention when running the installer, as the SoG app is not default and must be selected.
Good news is that is you mess up, you can always rerun the installer and get it right without blowing anything up, so it's all good. Later, Jim ...
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Message 1915909 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 5:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 1915788.  
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I can tell what I have exactly...I just run this at night when I am sleeping. So it runs 8hrs+

Power-Supply: Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watts Fully Modular Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified
Mother-Board: ASUS LGA1150 Z97-A ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor: Intel Core i7-4790K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB
Hard-Drive: Western Digital Blue 1TB SATA 7200 RPM 64MB Cache.
Video-card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked GDDR5 PCI-E Video Graphics Card, 4GB
I use the NVIDIA Drivers, not the Geforce Drivers. Nvidia Driver v390.77
Windows: Win 10 Prof. 64bit

This what I did exactly.

The software seems to DETECT what I have. I guess?

AstroPulse V7 CPU AVX Auto Selected.
Multibeam V8 CPU AVX Auto Selected.

Astropulse V7 ATI none selected.
Multibeam V8 ATI none selected.

AstropPulse V7 (Nvidia) Not selected I assume that is an option if want to run the AstroProject? I did click yes.
Multibeam v8 (NV-Cuda)

It auto selected the CUDA32 to recommend for Nvidia 9xxx series. I assume because I have a 970 card.
You mentioned about CUDA42 not sure why that showed up. I do not have a GTX 4 or 5 series card. (Baffling)

Next, I assume this for the Integrated Intel iCPU none is selected.

I started my BOINC App & did the update & this is what it shows.
I was doing 9 then drop to 1 now + 1 AstroPulse says 3 days to go. How interesting I could not do Astropulse before but now I can.
What I am saying I never did an Astropulse at all. I assume this software has something do with it now.
It is showing 0.04 CPU + 1 Nvidia GPU
The NEXT projects in line to do next is showing in 0.04 CPU + 1 Nvidia GPU Application CUDA50.

Your thoughts? You mention about crushing numbers well it seems to be working very fast to say.
Anyone else please comments if you wish...But man this helped allot so thank you very much...

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Message 1915910 - Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 6:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1915909.  
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Rerun the installer. In the video a gpu section, keep Astropluse selected, in Mulitbeam deselect cuda 32 and select SoG. Don’t worry about what it say in the bonic manager, when you finish the reinstall, all current gpu will switch to SoG even though it may still say cuda.
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