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Message 1913329 - Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 10:21:13 UTC - in response to Message 1913320.  

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

With today technology, it will be known within seconds where it ‘could’ land. Have a clue. If it goes astray, it will be attempted to deter it.

It is best to hope it is, if it is astray... har...
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Message 1913342 - Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 11:41:00 UTC - in response to Message 1913329.  

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

With today technology, it will be known within seconds where it ‘could’ land. Have a clue. If it goes astray, it will be attempted to deter it.

It is best to hope it is, if it is astray... har...

Are you sure, the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.
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Message 1913373 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 0:59:13 UTC

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

Are you sure, the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.
Major Kong or anyone else have a thought on this?

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Message 1913377 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 1:09:40 UTC
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Oops. Again...
Japan issues false alarm over missile launch, days after Hawaii alert gaffe.
NHK’s 6.55 p.m. (0955 GMT) alert on its web site said: “North Korea appears to have launched a missile...The government urges people to take shelter inside buildings or underground.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-japan/japan-issues-false-alarm-over-missile-launch-days-after-hawaii-alert-gaffe-idUSKBN1F514S
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Message 1913381 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 1:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1913373.  

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

Are you sure, the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.
Major Kong or anyone else have a thought on this?

I was slightly wrong there, the ICBM missile stays in orbit and uses star sightings to correct its position before targeting the individual warheads as and when required. Therefore it can be a 'first strike', 'counterforce' and 'second strike', if required. Details on target dispersion are classified.
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Message 1913385 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 1:50:53 UTC - in response to Message 1913381.  
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Has there been any real tests to succesfully intercepting an ICBM?
Don't think so.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/north-korea-missile-why-it-is-so-difficult-to-intercept-an-icbm/8684444
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Message 1913466 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 11:24:01 UTC

Meanwhile the NK IMPOSES MORE DEMANDS over the Olympics.

North Korea imposes more demands on South Korea over the Olympics
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Message 1913467 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 11:35:28 UTC - in response to Message 1913377.  

Oops. Again...
Japan issues false alarm over missile launch, days after Hawaii alert gaffe.
NHK’s 6.55 p.m. (0955 GMT) alert on its web site said: “North Korea appears to have launched a missile...The government urges people to take shelter inside buildings or underground.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-japan/japan-issues-false-alarm-over-missile-launch-days-after-hawaii-alert-gaffe-idUSKBN1F514S


My dear moomin, sooner or later it happening. Kim Fat Un is gaining time with these fake talks. Moon Jae-in is a ''trojan horse'' of North Korea, beacause his parents were refugees of North. Moon is a possible traitor of SK. He could betray US, Japan and other allies. I don't trust him.
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Message 1913484 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 13:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 1913467.  

That Moon Jae-in is a ''trojan horse'' of North Korea is highly unlikeky but he has some very strange ideas how to solve the conflict.
For instance In South Korea, a joint Korean ice hockey team has been proposed in the Olympic Games, which has sparked strong reactions among South Korean players.
"I do not know if it will happen, but a common team would be a good opportunity for ice hockey to grow in interest with Koreans," said South Korea's president, Moon Jae-In.
Naming lists have been signed against the proposal, where one of the signatures writes that "it's not the same as gluing a cracked plate".
"This is not an opportunity to relieve pressure or to reward North Korea. The fact that North Korea now engages in dialogue can be interpreted as proof that the sanctions have an effect, "said Japan's Foreign Minister Taro Kono, who urges not to be naive to the North Korean "charm offensive".
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/905262/South-Korea-North-Korea-Kim-Jong-un-Olympics-hockey-athletes-Moon-Jae-in-PyeongChang-2018
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Message 1913507 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 15:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 1913484.  

The joint team is a go...

North, South Korea agree to march under ‘unification flag’ at Olympic opening ceremony

SEOUL—South Korea says the rival Koreas have agreed to form their first joint Olympic team and have their athletes march together during the opening ceremony of next month’s Winter Olympics in the South.

Seoul’s Unification Ministry says the Koreas reached the agreement during talks Wednesday at the border village of Panmunjom.

It says athletes from the two Koreas will march together under a “unification flag” depicting their peninsula during the opening ceremony and will field a single women’s ice hockey team.


I think that this is a very hopeful sign of good things to come...
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Message 1913511 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 15:25:03 UTC

I think Andrew brings a good point to the table. The S Korean people have the freedom to choose to re-unify however would the result be a free and 'democratic' Korea or take the form of an expanded DPRK?

As has been proven in the last decade in the US, if the Lamestream Media has been co-opted into a propaganda machine, the free people of S Korea may be led 'down the garden path' into the slavery enjoyed by their northern brethren.

Could the 'snake' be offering the 'eve' a bite from the fruit of the 'tree of knowledge'.

Biblical analogy intended.

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Message 1913516 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 15:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 1913507.  

I think that this is a very hopeful sign of good things to come...

Yes, perhaps it's a light in the tunnel.
And it would be an interesting hockey match between the US and Korea if they will meet:)
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Message 1913518 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 16:04:20 UTC

Yes, perhaps it's a light in the tunnel.
And it would be an interesting hockey match between the US and Korea if they will meet:)
Unless the 'light' is on the rapidly approaching train......and I wouldn't term a Hockey game where the US scores a goal on every possession anything other than boring.

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Message 1913523 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 16:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 1913373.  

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

Are you sure, the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.
Major Kong or anyone else have a thought on this?


Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down?


Uhh... no. Not at all if you can catch the ICBM during the boost phase. Otherwise, you might could shoot it down, if you have sufficient ABM assets close enough to the target.

the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.


Uhhh... No. The USA no longer has ANY ICBMs that are fitted with MIRVs. SLBMs yes, but with reduced numbers per missile... But ICBMs... None at all.

UPDATE 9/27/17: View our recently-released visualization of the US nuclear arsenal for a breakdown of every bomb and warhead in the US arsenal.

The United States last week finished removing the last MIRV (multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle) from its Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs); these missiles will now each carry a single warhead. The move was the fulfillment of a promise the Obama administration made in its 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, which stated that it would “enhance the stability of the nuclear balance by reducing the incentives for either side to strike first.”

https://allthingsnuclear.org/emacdonald/the-end-of-mirvs-for-u-s-icbms
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1913589 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 20:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 1913523.  

Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down? They are not like an standard artillery or mortar shell, which follows a 'fixed' path.

It could be just a test, as with the previous launches.

Are you sure, the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.
Major Kong or anyone else have a thought on this?


Don't you have to know the target before you can shoot it down?


Uhh... no. Not at all if you can catch the ICBM during the boost phase. Otherwise, you might could shoot it down, if you have sufficient ABM assets close enough to the target.

the ICBM's used by both of our countries have multiple targeted warheads, that don't separate until they are on the downward part of the journey.


Uhhh... No. The USA no longer has ANY ICBMs that are fitted with MIRVs. SLBMs yes, but with reduced numbers per missile... But ICBMs... None at all.

UPDATE 9/27/17: View our recently-released visualization of the US nuclear arsenal for a breakdown of every bomb and warhead in the US arsenal.

The United States last week finished removing the last MIRV (multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle) from its Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs); these missiles will now each carry a single warhead. The move was the fulfillment of a promise the Obama administration made in its 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, which stated that it would “enhance the stability of the nuclear balance by reducing the incentives for either side to strike first.”

https://allthingsnuclear.org/emacdonald/the-end-of-mirvs-for-u-s-icbms
Thank you Major Kong, I didn't want to be accused of picking on anyone by explaining those two very important points,

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Message 1913641 - Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 23:56:54 UTC - in response to Message 1913511.  

I think Andrew brings a good point to the table. The S Korean people have the freedom to choose to re-unify however would the result be a free and 'democratic' Korea or take the form of an expanded DPRK?
As I have said many many times, Korea is for Korean's, it is not for the USA, China or Russia.
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Message 1913649 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 0:31:27 UTC

North Korea seems to have hacked Google Translate.
Here is a Swedish article about NK
https://kit.se/2017/06/01/86496/sveriges-osannolika-relation-till-nordkorea/
Sweden's unlikely relationship with North Korea
Behind heavy gates in a city on the other side of the earth is a blue-yellow embassy.
Swedish diplomats, peace workers and politicians have a unique relationship with North Korea over 40 years.
But how did that happen? KIT has talked to Erik, Niklas, Christer and Anders - all with their own history from the closed country.

But when using Google Translate...
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkit.se%2F2017%2F06%2F01%2F86496%2Fsveriges-osannolika-relation-till-nordkorea%2F&edit-text=&authuser=0
I get this instead:)
https://youtu.be/-4T3BER9TIc
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Message 1916213 - Posted: 1 Feb 2018, 1:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 1916180.  

And Rump and the Rumpettes want war with Kim.
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Message 1916218 - Posted: 1 Feb 2018, 2:22:39 UTC - in response to Message 1916217.  
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Erm...

Longing for reunion with families back in the North was the most frequent reason for having wanted to return, cited by 34.3 percent of those who answered in the affirmative, according to the survey. Another major reason was nostalgia for hometown.


That's quite a large family he has...

Also only a fifth of the escapees indicated any desire to return. And more telling: they have not returned. And I wouldn't discount this effect either.
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