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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
First you have Trump. Now you have Ajit Pai with: FCC douses America's net neutrality in gas, tosses over a lit match Watchdog's clown, er, chairman debases policymaking in the United States 5 reasons why America's Ctrl-Z on net neutrality rules is a GOOD thing Shut your whining, it's going to be great You next get Tzar Putin in person. So... In the supposed land of the supposed free... How can such a travesty come to pass on the (corrupt) whim of just one person and any pretence of democracy blatantly in-yer-face be blatantly ignored? All in the land of the greedy ignorant? The test is how long the present fiasco stands... (Gobsmacking such silliness has gone so far!) Really? Ajit Pai knows better than all those that have MADE and use the internet?... Who and for how much has been bought? This even Trumps Putin! Only in Amerika? The new Tzarist state of the new Russian Federation? UNBELIEVABLE. The internet be damned: More seriously... This is the death of any pretence of Amerikan supposed democracy. To ALL Americans: What are YOU going to do about it? See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
To ALL Americans: What are YOU going to do about it? It is possible that the dispute in the United States has not yet been completed. Attorney General of New York Eric Schneiderman believes that the decision violates the law and says he will dispute it. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/14/new-york-attorney-general-schneiderman-will-sue-over-net-neutrality.html |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Just in case anyone has missed the Ajit Pai fiasco and what he is destroying/enslaving/exploiting/monetizing: US regulator scraps net neutrality rules that protect open internet Decision a major victory for FCC chair and Trump appointee Ajit Pai Critics warn plan will hand control of the web to big cable companies The Internet Is Dying. Repealing Net Neutrality Hastens That Death. ... When the rules go, the internet will still work, but it will look like and feel like something else altogether — a network in which business development deals, rather than innovation, determine what you experience, a network that feels much more like cable TV than the technological Wild West... Wikipedia: Net neutrality Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication. For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content... A widely cited example of a violation of net neutrality principles was the Internet service provider Comcast's secret slowing ("throttling") of uploads from peer-to-peer file sharing (P2P) applications... In another minor example, The Madison River Communications company was fined US$15,000 by the FCC, in 2004, for restricting their customers' access to Vonage, which was rivaling their own services... How free do you want to be and how much of a Toll are you happy to pay?... Only in the USA?... See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So... In the supposed land of the supposed free...Profit first, profit second, profit last. Now the sots will have to go out and buy half a dozen phones and pay us every month on a half dozen phones! PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT You will have your FOX/Disney phone, your Paramount phone, your Universal phone, your Nexflix phone your Hulu phone, your Amazon phone ... Consumers will have choice. PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
We can do it again. Not as long as Citizens United remains the law of the land. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
We can do it again. Not necessarily true, Now that the GOP is in control in most of the US. They will increase voter suppression and gerrymandering, and therefore the Dems will never again be in power until the increasingly uneducated poor realise they are being shafted. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Perhaps, but an even greater concentrated power was defeated by 'Teddy' Roosevelt. Modern media, ie twitter has changed that . |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Perhaps, but an even greater concentrated power was defeated by 'Teddy' Roosevelt. Twitterbots you mean. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Perhaps, but an even greater concentrated power was defeated by 'Teddy' Roosevelt. Yep |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, The U.S. started like this: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. And Abraham Lincoln said it best: Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. And now look what we have here in the 21st century. A Country and Government run by the million/billionaires of the country to put more millions and billions in their coffers. We The People of the United States, have NO say in anything that happens in this country. Sure, foreigners say "make changes at the polls". Won't ever happen. This country is circling the drain as we discuss it here on a Scientific research website. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Rockefeller; Carnegie; Morgan and Others, Became RICHER after So Called 'Break Up' by Teddy. I Use a PITCHFORK for Hay? You? BIG PILES of Hay and Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Teddy Teddy Teddy R. Where Are You? Weee dA WEEEEE of U S of A, NEED YOU to STOP IMMENSE POWER to CENSOR by NON NEUTRAL You Know Who. http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/15/google-is-using-its-immense-power-to-censor-content-that-doesnt-fit-its-political-goals Seen dA AUSSIE Show 'Glitch'? Teddy R. CAN RISE and FREE WEEEEE dA Weeeee Peoples of U S of A of IMMENSE POWERFUL CENSORSHIP by NON NEUTRAL you know Who. C'mon NEUTRALIZE this Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
WOW! Is this the one Politics thread where for possibly the first time, all the posters are in agreement?! (Including certain posters who normally are irreconcilable...!) In brief summary, we have: ISPs Are Now Free To Discriminate Against Internet Services The FCC, led by its new chairman, Ajit Pai, voted to repeal the net neutrality rules... ... Net neutrality may indeed not normally be needed, if the market was highly competitive and consumers could easily switch from one ISP to another in their local areas the moment one ISP began to misbehave. However, as most Americans know, that’s hardly the case right now... And for a fun (or not) summary of how the USA 'internet' got there, this gives an excellent summary: The Net Neutrality Lie Published on 11 Dec 2017 Net Neutrality explained! Ajit Pai has been telling #PaiLies about Net Neutrality. In fact the entire anti Net Neutrality argument has been based around these series of falsehoods that only exist because people don't know the truth. So allow me to explain the history of Net Neutrality and how everything Ajit Pai the head of the FCC has said, is completely false. Spread this video! Shut down the Pai Lies! (Also, I know he actually says "Toasty") *I will say, I should have not said "the entire anti- Net Neutrality argument is built on lies* as I was referring only to the factual portion of the debate. There are ideological reasons one can be against NN, which I do not get into in the video. This is only about establishing what the facts actually are... Very well put together and almost compulsive viewing... See it while you can. Incredible. Can officials be sued/sacked for willful ignorance? (Or in this case worse?...) What next for the (Tzarist?) USA? Only in Amerika?! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
RobberBARRONs. You Can SEE; FEEL; TASTE; HEAR; SMELL; and Sixth SENSE, How; Why; When. 'THEY' are F**King You. I'll Take Dat ANYTIME, Over OBLABBYs Government CONTROLLED WORLD where One DOES NOT KNOW All dA Ways, 'THEY' are F**King You. RobberBARRONs are StraightForward and CAN BE DEALT With. OBLABBYs Government CONTROLLED WORLD is INSIDIOUS; SNEAKY; SHADOWWy: STEALTHy; and DownLEFTy Gunna F**K You Over while You Be SMILING and HAPPY 'cause 'THEY' OWN YOUR MIND and LIFE. Yeah, I AGREE with OVERTURNING ANYTHING OBLABBYs WORLD has INSTITUTED. And I AGREE with ALL Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
...OBLABBYs Government CONTROLLED WORLD is INSIDIOUS; SNEAKY; SHADOWWy: STEALTHy; and DownLEFTy Gunna F**K You Over while You Be SMILING and HAPPY 'cause 'THEY' OWN YOUR MIND and LIFE. Really? In reality? Is USA politics really so simplistic? One color is always 'good' whilst the 'other' color is always 'bad'? Regardless of what their policies are and regardless of all consequences?... Is this the start of a new North - South civil war? Or a continuation of the battle of old flags? Or the silly old game of going "tribal"? Meanwhile, what of the consequence, for the USA, of the internet being turned into a kind of expensively restricted (CENSORED) cable TV?! And only in Amerika? All only in our one world... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Is this the start of a new North - South civil war? Or a continuation of the battle of old flags? Or the silly old game of going "tribal"? I Predict a 'Civil' 'War' between Muslim and Non-Muslim 'Tribes' IN EUROPE or UK. Weee dA Weeeee Peoples of U S of A will Have a 'few' 'Skimishes', Now and Again. You All(like dat S'uthren term?) Over There will, As Usual, 'GO TRIBAL'. ALL REALITY ONLY in dA REAL OLD WORLD Keep On Crunchin' Peanuts and Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
...OBLABBYs Government CONTROLLED WORLD is INSIDIOUS; SNEAKY; SHADOWWy: STEALTHy; and DownLEFTy Gunna F**K You Over while You Be SMILING and HAPPY 'cause 'THEY' OWN YOUR MIND and LIFE. I agree that solutions do not always exist in one ideology or another. Ideologies are traps that prevent people from seeing solutions. I prefer to look to history, both locally, and around the world for solutions based on previous success rates. I don't care where a solution comes from, as long as it has a history of working. I also agree that solutions that have been successful in one instance, may not be in a set of different circumstances. I am extremely concerned about the loss of Net Neutrality. I don't see a single good thing about it. It is very clear to me that the current administration is letting everything be run by the major players, without the protections for the public. If this type of attitude has existed in the past, the tobacco companies would have kept selling to everyone until everyone had died of cancer. The gas companies would have kept selling leaded gas until all the drinking water was lead contaminated. The aerosol manufactures would have kept selling chlorofluorocarbons until we had no ozone left. We need protections from run away companies that will do anything for a buck regardless of the consequences. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20283 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Comcast and AT&T already Capitalize on the demise of Net Neutrality: Comcast is giving its employees $1,000 bonuses because net neutrality is dead Celebrating the death of consumer protections Comcast today announced that it would be doling out $1,000 employee bonuses in response to the Federal Communications Commission’s repeal of net neutrality rules last week, as well as the Senate and House’s passing of Republicans’ tax reform bill poised to provide a substantial windfall to wealthy Americans and corporations... ... The news coincides with AT&T’s similar announcement today that it plans to give 200,000 employees $1,000 bonuses each in response to tax reform. AT&T did not mention the FCC or net neutrality, but as an ISP the company stands to benefit in ways similar to Comcast... All in the land of the Amerikan 'free'? And all in the two weeks before Christmas!... What are you American 'freedom' lovers going to do about that?... Are you freely a democracy?... Only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Comcast and AT&T already Capitalize on the demise of Net Neutrality: Martin, you need to tell Eye. He is busy posting they are giving the bonus because of the tax cut. Oh, Sprint is now running ads that say want Hulu, switch to Sprint. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
We like money. Our voters are driven, in the most part, by their wallets and pocketbooks. Getting rid of net neutrality will cost the voters money. The idiocracy just is unwilling to see that and when they do then they may complain. As long as corporations are "people" and citizens united are the law of the land this is the way this country will roll. |
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