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Message 1903232 - Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 0:48:19 UTC

In other Roy Moore deflection attempts:

She falsely claimed Roy Moore impregnated her at 15. She appears to be part of sting targeting the Washington Post

WASHINGTON—A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama, impregnated her as a teenager appears to work with an organization that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its targets.

In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public.

The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.

But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias.

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Message 1903368 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 1:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1903345.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.
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Message 1903370 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 1:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 1903368.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.
Or scream Fake News at the top of their lungs like LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA so reality doesn't enter their brain.
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Message 1903374 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 2:06:10 UTC - in response to Message 1903370.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.
Or scream Fake News at the top of their lungs like LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA so reality doesn't enter their brain.


Why not? Trump is already claiming the video, clearly showing him talking to Billy Bush, is somehow fake news. Maybe that was Alec Baldwin playing Trump in the video?
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Message 1903377 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 2:28:17 UTC - in response to Message 1903376.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.

Talk and actions are of course considered to be on a different level.

Despite the "locker room" talk I have overheard on many occasions said by women, as well as men. I have never, not having right wing religious nor left wing puritanical beliefs. Considered that to be a determinant for any women, as well as any man, to hold a position of responsibility.

You apparently disagree.


I tend to hold my elected leaders to a higher standard. I don't think the leader of the free world should ever be talking about women with such vulgarity, nor would I expect it out of any female leader should the opportunity present itself. Talk and actions are different, but both our abhorrent in this case and should never be condoned, or hand waived away.

You apparently disagree.
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Message 1903382 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 2:51:49 UTC - in response to Message 1903379.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.

Talk and actions are of course considered to be on a different level.

Despite the "locker room" talk I have overheard on many occasions said by women, as well as men. I have never, not having right wing religious nor left wing puritanical beliefs. Considered that to be a determinant for any women, as well as any man, to hold a position of responsibility.

You apparently disagree.


I tend to hold my elected leaders to a higher standard. I don't think the leader of the free world should ever be talking about women with such vulgarity, nor would I expect it out of any female leader should the opportunity present itself. Talk and actions are different, but both our abhorrent in this case and should never be condoned, or hand waived away.

You apparently disagree.


Yes. I hold actions to a different level than female or male talk.

Sorry, I do not wish for us to degenerate into some Puritanical Culture. As those on the Left on the Political Spectrum are now championing.


Didn't realize it was puritanical to expect our President to not talk with such vulgarities and disregard for the opposite sex. I suppose you would be OK with it if he were talking about your daughter, wife, or other beloved female in your life. It's just talk, after all.
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Message 1903396 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 4:12:23 UTC

Lets not forget the "locker room" talk incident is not the only sexual harassment incident.

I would like to compare the Miss Teen America incident with, what would happen in a school if the Head master/mistress walked into the changing room for the opposite sex students, when the parents found out.
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Message 1903510 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 14:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 1903496.  
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I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.

Talk and actions are of course considered to be on a different level.

Despite the "locker room" talk I have overheard on many occasions said by women, as well as men. I have never, not having right wing religious nor left wing puritanical beliefs. Considered that to be a determinant for any women, as well as any man, to hold a position of responsibility.

You apparently disagree.


I tend to hold my elected leaders to a higher standard. I don't think the leader of the free world should ever be talking about women with such vulgarity, nor would I expect it out of any female leader should the opportunity present itself. Talk and actions are different, but both our abhorrent in this case and should never be condoned, or hand waived away.

You apparently disagree.


Yes. I hold actions to a different level than female or male talk.

Sorry, I do not wish for us to degenerate into some Puritanical Culture. As those on the Left on the Political Spectrum are now championing.


Didn't realize it was puritanical to expect our President to not talk with such vulgarities and disregard for the opposite sex. I suppose you would be OK with it if he were talking about your daughter, wife, or other beloved female in your life. It's just talk, after all.

It is puritanical to expect and more importantly. Enforce your beliefs that most humans think and talk about those who sexually attract them in the most pure terms.

I am guessing that you believe that fathers believe that their son in laws have sexual relations and impregnated their daughters with the purest, non sexual motives.

Really?

As I have repeatedly stated. The only difference between the Radical Left and the Radical Right is, in many instances, the targets of their scorn and bigotry.


So I'll take that as a yes. If you found your son or son-in-law talking about your daughter or daughter-in-law on a tape like Trump was, you'd be OK with it. Thank you. No wonder why you're OK with Trump as president and continue to defend him whenever you can. And thank you for exposing the foundation of your beliefs.
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Message 1903525 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 15:31:07 UTC - in response to Message 1903515.  

I also hold Trump in disgust for not calling upon Moore to resign from the race.


I should hope you hold in in the same disgust for his "locker room talk" where he brags about grabbing women by their vaginas. Why wasn't anybody asking Trump to drop out of the race after the same? If people are going to demand resignations, it starts at the top and yet every Trump supporter will make excuses for him, or deflect from the situation.

Talk and actions are of course considered to be on a different level.

Despite the "locker room" talk I have overheard on many occasions said by women, as well as men. I have never, not having right wing religious nor left wing puritanical beliefs. Considered that to be a determinant for any women, as well as any man, to hold a position of responsibility.

You apparently disagree.


I tend to hold my elected leaders to a higher standard. I don't think the leader of the free world should ever be talking about women with such vulgarity, nor would I expect it out of any female leader should the opportunity present itself. Talk and actions are different, but both our abhorrent in this case and should never be condoned, or hand waived away.

You apparently disagree.


Yes. I hold actions to a different level than female or male talk.

Sorry, I do not wish for us to degenerate into some Puritanical Culture. As those on the Left on the Political Spectrum are now championing.


Didn't realize it was puritanical to expect our President to not talk with such vulgarities and disregard for the opposite sex. I suppose you would be OK with it if he were talking about your daughter, wife, or other beloved female in your life. It's just talk, after all.

It is puritanical to expect and more importantly. Enforce your beliefs that most humans think and talk about those who sexually attract them in the most pure terms.

I am guessing that you believe that fathers believe that their son in laws have sexual relations and impregnated their daughters with the purest, non sexual motives.

Really?

As I have repeatedly stated. The only difference between the Radical Left and the Radical Right is, in many instances, the targets of their scorn and bigotry.


So I'll take that as a yes. If you found your son or son-in-law talking about your daughter or daughter-in-law on a tape like Trump was, you'd be OK with it. Thank you. No wonder why you're OK with Trump as president and continue to defend him whenever you can. And thank you for exposing the foundation of your beliefs.

As per Trump...

I am curious how many of the people who claimed that President Clinton's conduct could and should be separated from his ability to rule the country, are now the people demanding that Trump be removed from office? Honestly, how many of us are such hypocrites, depending on who is in office?

Conservatives and liberals alike? Yes.


For once we agree: Anyone that didn't support impeaching Clinton for his indiscretions but are now calling for Trump's could be considered hypocrites.

I'm sorry, did you think that I was one of those people defending Clinton? Do you still have me in the liberal camp and are arguing with me under a false understanding of my views?
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Message 1903528 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 15:44:30 UTC - in response to Message 1903526.  

And my views as misunderstood by other posters. Who, for unknown reasons, believes that an Anti Never Trumper is an Always Trumper.

I, as a person who has many times described Trump as "Idiot Trump" and "Dangerous". Believes that the hypocritical Never Trumper's are self destructing in their continued attempt, since the day after the election. To either invalidate the result of a Constitutionally Elected President. Or a ridiculous belief that Trump will be Impeached/Convicted.


And yet you still refuse to condemn him for his vulgar speech regarding women. If anyone is going to ask Al Franken to step down, or Moore to step down, then logically it follows that Trump should step down too.
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Message 1903543 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 16:25:36 UTC - in response to Message 1903538.  
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And my views as misunderstood by other posters. Who, for unknown reasons, believes that an Anti Never Trumper is an Always Trumper.

I, as a person who has many times described Trump as "Idiot Trump" and "Dangerous". Believes that the hypocritical Never Trumper's are self destructing in their continued attempt, since the day after the election. To either invalidate the result of a Constitutionally Elected President. Or a ridiculous belief that Trump will be Impeached/Convicted.


And yet you still refuse to condemn him for his vulgar speech regarding women. If anyone is going to ask Al Franken to step down, or Moore to step down, then logically it follows that Trump should step down too.

The belief that actions and normal human, non pure sexual thinking and speech should be treated the same. Is just another failed attempt to remove a Constitutionally Elected President.

BTW: I thought then (Clinton), as now. That the sexual speech and/or consensual, extra marital sexual exploits of a President, or a person running for that office. Be it Franklin Roosevelt, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Clinton, et al. Should, as you believe, result in their removal from office.


Interesting that an attempt to get you to remain logically consistent results in your view that it is nothing more than a failed attempt to remove an elected president. Impeach Trump or don't. I'm just trying to show you a logical inconsistency that I see in your views and you're doing an excellent job rationalizing the inconsistency away.
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Message 1903583 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 18:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 1903571.  

I am curious how many of the people who claimed that President Clinton's conduct could and should be separated from his ability to rule the country, are now the people demanding that Trump be removed from office? Honestly, how many of us are such hypocrites, depending on who is in office?
Fake News. Just because this is your behavior does not make universal or even common, you may be a single case. Rationalize away. YAP!
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Message 1903620 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 20:21:55 UTC - in response to Message 1903615.  

Are you saying the law doesn't apply to 45 because he is president?
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Message 1903621 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 20:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1903615.  

I do understand that you cannot accept that Trump will be the President of the United States until January 2021.

As with Hillary. Get over it.

Describe me as you wish. Your belief that something/anything will be found to remove Trump from Office has and will fail.


I accepted the results as soon as the results came in last year. Not sure why you'd choose to be antagonistic toward me by insisting otherwise. But you still failed to answer a direct challenge by deflecting with this type of response. My acceptance or non-acceptance has nothing to do with the question I posed to you.
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Message 1903631 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 20:54:11 UTC - in response to Message 1903627.  

Is your memory or scrolling finger really that bad that you can't look back at previous posts?

If an elected official is accused of sexual harassment and should step down from public office as a matter of course, such as the case with Al Franken or Judge Roy
Moore, why does the same not hold true for Donald Trump?

Again, I'm not demanding his impeachment. I am asking you for your opinion on why the logical inconsistency.
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Message 1903639 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 21:13:35 UTC - in response to Message 1903624.  

Are you saying the law doesn't apply to 45 because he is president?

No.* Just another question to deflect that many cannot accept that Trump was Constitutionally Elected President of the United States.

Considering all the leaks over the year...What criminal accusations have been disclosed against Trump by the FBI, DOJ, Mueller, Congress Investigators, et al?

* To arrest a Nixon, Clinton, Trump, et al. Nixon, Clinton, Trump. et al, would first have to be Impeached/Convicted.

Edit: Or resign.

Most accept that 45 was elected as president, but that does not stop anyone from saying the election procedure is questionable. That 45 is unfit by many standards to be president is obvious to everyone who has more than two brain cells.
Looking at the past it will probably be some time before any of the investigations make a decision one way or the other to impeach 45 or not. The Watergate investigation took over two years before Nixon resigned.
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Message 1903640 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 21:17:41 UTC - in response to Message 1903634.  

Unless criminal charges are forthcoming. I have not asked for the resignation of Conners or Frankin,

What I have stated. Is that I hold President Trump in complete disgust for not attacking Moore.


Why did it take all that effort just to get this satisfactory answer?
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