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Message 1902388 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 18:01:20 UTC - in response to Message 1902283.  

The whole shebang revolves around punishing the wrongdoer, and a lesson to others not to transgress. How unpleasant do you want to make the punishment, and how strong the deterrent.

In theory, prison is supposed to be a place of reflection, contrition and rehabilitation. The reality of prison life, however, is probably not that in most cases.

Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole is an unfortunate necessity that I think should rarely be exercised. Sentencing someone to this fate is a public reminder of our collective shame because it is essentially saying: "We don't know how to help you, and we do not expect to know how to help you for the remainder of your years. You have lost the right to walk freely among us because, untreated, you are a threat to our safety. You were convicted of terrible things, but we have also failed you."

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And some after being released are punished, ostracized, even have rocks thrown at their windows to chase them away, one manager here blamed the ex-con for the rocks, said He did it, I saw the glass was broken on the inside, She didn't care, She just wanted them out of here(She was later fired), I know of one ex-con and His GF who were along with 4 dogs(then 4 became 3 dogs, 1 died), who became homeless, where they are now I don't know, I've lost track of them.
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Message 1902390 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 18:11:48 UTC

DEATH is dA Greatest Arbiter.

Way Back when His Sentence was Pronounced, I Would Gladly have Been His Executioner. As His Sentence Entered his Brain, I, as Executioner, could Easily Put a Bullet in said Brain.

Don't care 'bout His 'Sickness'; Upbringing; or ANY 'Mitagating' 'Circumstances'.

Call 'It' dA 'Manson' In Me.

What A WASTE of Money is this 'Life' in Prison BULLSHAT.

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Message 1902424 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 22:14:26 UTC

Don't care 'bout His 'Sickness'; Upbringing; or ANY 'Mitagating' 'Circumstances'.

Well then, if I were an defense attorney I would "thank and excuse" you from serving on a jury. And if I were a prosecuting attorney, I would "thank and excuse" me from serving on that same jury.

As in all things, I suppose the real answer lies in some gray area in between.
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Message 1902426 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 22:33:09 UTC
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I always found it a curious contradiction of U.S. so-called "neo-conservative" thought that the government is considered to to be incompetent and untrustworthy, except for the most important and serious decision: which citizens should be put to death, at which point the government magically becomes perfect and inerrant.

Or maybe they just don't care about the "collateral damage" of the 4% or so who are innocent.

(Edit: and I overlooked the big one of being "Pro-Life" but for the death penalty. Er... ?)
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Message 1902428 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 23:10:52 UTC

OK. I'll Give Manson a Chance after Sentencing.

Without My Defending or Fighting Back, if Charlie Can Break My GRIP Around his Throat, then He Can Go Free.

Otherwise, His Limp, Worthless Body can Soon After be Carted to dA Nearest Forest, to be Given Back to Nature. Will dA Crawlers and Beasties Give a SHAT 'bout His 'Less than Optimum Upbringing and Other 'Challenges' while becoming an 'Adult'?

Or Some Gal from His 'Ranch' Days can Pick Him Up and Do as She Pleases. Seems Most Ladies were Dazzled by Him.

Heard Last Night, there have been 70 Music Groups, who Have Played his 'Compositions'.

Live On Charlie Baby

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Message 1902446 - Posted: 23 Nov 2017, 1:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 1902429.  
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I understand the difference between adults (Manson, Hitler, Stalin, etc.) being held responsible for their decisions and...


Does this mean that you would not recognize a plea of insanity for an adult?
Charles Manson's behavior I would describe as insane. I am no psychologist, but I do know that psychology is a a qualitative rather than quantitative science, and has been known to be pressured to obtain "desired" diagnoses at times... wouldn't want to deprive The Public of a good hanging for a detested criminal of course.
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Message 1902457 - Posted: 23 Nov 2017, 2:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 1902448.  

Charles Manson refused an insanity plea. He insisted he was sane. He has a right to the defense of his choice and no one wanted to look to deeply, they wanted their pound of flesh.
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Message 1902494 - Posted: 23 Nov 2017, 7:32:19 UTC

.....no one wanted to look to deeply, they wanted their pound of flesh.


Quite Happy to Leave dA DEEP THINKING to dA Caring; Loving; Hugging; GUILT-FREE BRAINIACS of dA Vorld.

Capital Punishing INSANELY GOoD Yap

p.s. Two mO Episodes of PUNISHER. Yeah Baby! Dat's JUSTICE!!!

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