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Message 1897871 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 14:45:23 UTC

The list of top GPU's puts a GTX1060 3Gb above a GTX980Ti.

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(1.000) GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
(0.751) GeForce GTX 1080
(0.627) GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
(0.620) GeForce GTX 980 Ti
(0.580) GeForce GTX 1070
(0.531) GeForce GTX 780
(0.500) GeForce GTX 970
(0.490) GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
(0.476) GeForce GTX 980
(0.410) GeForce GTX 770

From my own experiences I find that hard to believe ..........
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Message 1897877 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 15:45:41 UTC - in response to Message 1897871.  

IIRC, it is not a comparison between the cards, but has more to do with the amount of work returned by each by users - if you will note, the 3gb 1060 is higher up in the list than the 6gb!
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Message 1897878 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 15:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 1897877.  

Ok, thanks for the explanation, I was thinking it was to do with the power of the cards rather than the popularity of them!
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Message 1897882 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 16:53:09 UTC

A lot of bang for the buck there.
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Message 1897938 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 20:28:58 UTC

Does anyone could post the optimized command line for the 1060 in windows? On a non cruncher only host.
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Message 1897945 - Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 20:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 1897938.  

Does anyone could post the optimized command line for the 1060 in windows? On a non cruncher only host.

Here's what I use on mine,

For AP's, " -unroll 10 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 512 -ffa_block 12288 -ffa_block_fetch 6144"

For SoG, " -sbs 1024 -period_iterations_num 10 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64"

Cheers.
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Message 1898013 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 3:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 1897945.  
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Does anyone could post the optimized command line for the 1060 in windows? On a non cruncher only host.

Here's what I use on mine,

For AP's, " -unroll 10 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 512 -ffa_block 12288 -ffa_block_fetch 6144"

For SoG, " -sbs 1024 -period_iterations_num 10 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64"

Cheers.

Thanks but not works as i need. As i said, this is a non cruncher only host.

Still a lot of lags when you see a regular (not even at 720) series or a movie on the host by using windows media payer.

I could do that when crunch on the GPU on E@H but not in S@H

I´m triying even running only 1 CPU and 1 GPU WU at a time on the host (with a 6850 CPU) and -period_iterations_num 50

Any other idea?
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Message 1898014 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 4:19:50 UTC - in response to Message 1898013.  

Does anyone could post the optimized command line for the 1060 in windows? On a non cruncher only host.

Here's what I use on mine,

For AP's, " -unroll 10 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 512 -ffa_block 12288 -ffa_block_fetch 6144"

For SoG, " -sbs 1024 -period_iterations_num 10 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64"

Cheers.

Thanks but not works as i need. As i said, this is a non cruncher only host.

Still a lot of lags when you see a regular (not even at 720) series or a movie on the host by using windows media payer.

I could do that when crunch on the GPU on E@H but not in S@H

I´m triying even running only 1 CPU and 1 GPU WU at a time on the host (with a 6850 CPU) and -period_iterations_num 50

Any other idea?


Juan, so this is a daily driver? change the following commandlines to and add the use sleep command

-sbs 512 -period_iterations_num 50 -use_sleep
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Message 1898018 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 5:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 1898013.  

Does anyone could post the optimized command line for the 1060 in windows? On a non cruncher only host.

Here's what I use on mine,

For AP's, " -unroll 10 -oclFFT_plan 256 16 512 -ffa_block 12288 -ffa_block_fetch 6144"

For SoG, " -sbs 1024 -period_iterations_num 10 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64"

Cheers.

Thanks but not works as i need. As i said, this is a non cruncher only host.

Still a lot of lags when you see a regular (not even at 720) series or a movie on the host by using windows media payer.

I could do that when crunch on the GPU on E@H but not in S@H

I´m triying even running only 1 CPU and 1 GPU WU at a time on the host (with a 6850 CPU) and -period_iterations_num 50

Any other idea?

That's funny as I get no lag with those settings here.

Cheers.
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Message 1898025 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 6:56:28 UTC - in response to Message 1898018.  
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That's funny as I get no lag with those settings here.

Even when you see a movie for example? Could be a MB/CPU/GPU related. It´s a X99P-SLI MB from Gigabyte

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It´s my son computer, he only use to see some movies/tv series (low resolution) most of the time, so if i could find a way to configure it i could use on S@H. When he do gaming i allready stop the Boinc.

Allready try a more consevative set -sbs 128 -period_iterations_num 250 -no_defaults_scaling as described in the SOG help doc but the lag remains, a lot less but remains.
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Message 1898026 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 7:03:49 UTC - in response to Message 1898025.  

What about the -use_sleep??
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Message 1898027 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 7:10:40 UTC
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This my command line for SOG work.

-sbs 1024 -period_iterations_num 10 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64 -high_prec_timer -use_sleep -tt 1000 -hp

That will give me about 90% CPU and 90% GPU use. Therefore if I want to do anything else like surf the web or chat on bulletin boards etc I have to Snooze Boinc while I do.

The -use_sleep command drops the CPU use down to about 1/3 of that of the GPU. This often means that you can crunch 6 CPU units instead of 5 on an 8 core CPU, The m'c's are set & run Boinc 24/7 except my day to day m/c.

But I am not surprised that a GTX980 out performs a GTX 1060. The 980 has 16 compute units, the 1060 only has 9. The GTX1080Ti has 28. It is the number of these that give Nvidia cards their power.
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Message 1898069 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 14:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 1898027.  
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That will give me about 90% CPU and 90% GPU use. Therefore if I want to do anything else like surf the web or chat on bulletin boards etc I have to Snooze Boinc while I do.

GPU usage is in the range of 93-97% and CPU 8% is amost free (1 GpU + 1 CPU WU only on a 6 cores Host)

That´s exacy what i want to avoid, is very unconfortable to see a movie with lags, since is my son computer i need something who not mess when he see his movies or i´m forced to stop the entire Boinc for hours, something like happening when you crunch E@H in the host, you coud continue to use the host allmost normaly.

In the past with CUDA versions and with even ess powerfull GPU´s that was easely avoid.

I have 2 others hosts (6800CPU+ 1070/1080Ti) with the similar situation. I
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Message 1898070 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 14:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 1898069.  

How does the 1060 behave with no command line at all?
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Message 1898071 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 14:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 1898070.  
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How does the 1060 behave with no command line at all?


I try, the problem is the same.

Allready try a more consevative set -sbs 128 -period_iterations_num 250 -no_defaults_scaling as described in the SOG help doc but the lag remains, a lot less but remains.

BTW Answering the Chris question at the begining of this thread. My crunching (In SETI) times show, the 1070 crunchers about 2x faster than the 1060 and the 1080Ti it´s about 70% faster than the 1070. The 980Ti it´s a 20% faster than the 1070 but uses more power.
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Message 1898072 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 14:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 1898071.  

Out of curiousity, maybe try:
GPU use 1.0, CPU 2.0 (or 3)
Just to check if it is the lack of CPU resources causing lag.
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Message 1898074 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 14:30:31 UTC - in response to Message 1898072.  
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Out of curiousity, maybe try:
GPU use 1.0, CPU 2.0 (or 3)
Just to check if it is the lack of CPU resources causing lag.

Maybe i was not clear

It´s a 6 core CPU (12 Threads) and i only use 1 core by running 1 GPU +1 CPU only (2 total) the others 5 cores (10 threads) are free
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Message 1898083 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 16:16:54 UTC - in response to Message 1898074.  

Obviously, BOINC is chewing up motherboard resources to the detriment of watching movies. There is plenty of horsepower left in the cpu for decoding/transcoding the movie so I think that interrupts are being hogged by BOINC or PCIe bus requests or throughput is being impacted. What kind of PCIe slot is the gpu in? Is it possible to move it to a X16 slot if it is in a X4 slot for example? Are there any other background processes running? Open up Resource Monitor and look at which processes are consuming the most cpu time. Use a utility to move all BOINC processes and tasks down to Low Priority from their normal Below Normal priority.
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Message 1898085 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 16:25:31 UTC - in response to Message 1898083.  
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It´s on the PCIe slot 0, a 16X for sure (only one GPU instaled) in a X99 MB

In theory only Boinc and the movie player was running, but with Windows you never realy knows.

Will try your sugestion when i arrive at home latter, i tried before to increase the priority (up to real time) of the Media Player without success.
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Message 1898100 - Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 17:51:51 UTC

Well there is always a LOT of Windows background processes running. Normally they have minimal impact on system responsiveness. But a rogue process can get out of control or hung up and consume more than normal cpu time. I would try Task Manager and then >> Resource Monitor from Task Manager. Look for processes that are consuming abnormally large amount of cpu time. On my eight core systems, a SETI MB CPU task consumes 12-13% of cpu time for example. Another utility you can try and is more focussed on media playback is Latency Monitor That tells you what processes are consuming resources in detriment to media playback by impacting latency and are causing large latencies. It's the latencies that are preventing smooth playback from movies.
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