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Message 1896105 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 12:08:05 UTC

I have decided to install ubuntu 16.04 and give BOINC a try for my newest system. Biggest challenge is that I have not used UNIX since I had a SPARC5 on my desk decades ago, so I need some serious help. First, the package on the BOINC download page for Linux seems kinda old. Is that the latest and best option? Second, Linux seems a bit different from the UNIX/Solaris exposure I had before, so I am having trouble even getting the package installed and working. Is there a updated guide on installing it? I have tried instructions posted here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu but it doesn't seem to work.
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Message 1896112 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 12:43:53 UTC

Are you using the command line or a GUI to do the install?
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Message 1896117 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 12:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 1896112.  

Are you using the command line or a GUI to do the install?


I was trying by the command line. I found this set of instructions http://www.overclock.net/t/1449225/guide-installing-boinc-on-ubuntu-from-the-terminal which seemed to work better, but I can get to advanced view and I am not sure which version got installed.
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Message 1896121 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 13:27:03 UTC
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Why not just using Mint 18.2.
Its based on Ubuntu 16.04. and much easier to use.
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Message 1896130 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 13:59:33 UTC

second vote for mint.
and the GUI in mint is so easy to use. thirty minutes from a bare PC with no o/s to a working cruncher with a pair of GPUs.
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Message 1896134 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 14:15:28 UTC - in response to Message 1896130.  

Mike, Rob, I heard the AMD drivers work best with Ubuntu 16.04. Is it confirmed that they work with Mint just as well? I plan to run my 3 ProDuos which have been very problematic to get to work on all systems I tried.

I have made some progress in Ubuntu. I figured out the command line and have successfully installed and uninstalled the package. I have also gotten the GUI to work and have used it to install. Not sure if it is running properly, since there doesn't appear to be an option to select advanced view. There are no drop down menus at the top of the window. Is there a config file anywhere where I can set this as the default?
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Message 1896139 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 15:25:33 UTC

I have things working now. Could not see anything in Simple view and could access any pull down menus. I finally looked at the interface on Windows and found Ctrl-Shift-A changes the view. Tried on Ubuntu and was able to get to Advanced view. Now it all looks normal. Next things to figure out:
1) Loading GPU drivers
2) Loading Optimized apps - Is r3584SoG available for Linux?
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Message 1896144 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 15:49:54 UTC

Well, I still can not access any pull down menus of BOINC Manager which is definitely a problem. I installed the GPU driver, but it wont start any tasks since I can't change compute preferences. Anyone have an idea why I am not seeing pull down menus for BOINC manager? Thanks
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Message 1896151 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:09:04 UTC - in response to Message 1896144.  

Well, I still can not access any pull down menus of BOINC Manager which is definitely a problem. I installed the GPU driver, but it wont start any tasks since I can't change compute preferences. Anyone have an idea why I am not seeing pull down menus for BOINC manager? Thanks
The menu is hidden in the title bar. You have to hover your mouse over the title bar to make it appear. If it still doesn't, you need to open Settings>Appearance, click on the Behavior tab, then make sure that "in the window's title bar" is selected.
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Message 1896153 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:16:05 UTC - in response to Message 1896144.  
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Basically, the BOINC for Linux is a mess. Yes, the Simple view apparently doesn't work for most people. The version of BOINC for Ubuntu I have built actually works very nicely in Ubuntu 16.04. To use it all you do is expand it to the Home folder, open the BOINC folder, and double click on boincmgr. Not only does Simple View work, the Advanced View doesn't have the problem of the Tasks page auto-scrolling to the bottom. To use it you need to remove any traces of any other BOINC you have, it's best with a Clean System Install. You can download it here, http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=197.msg4519#msg4519
I was going to post the Updated version 7.8.3 later today, but, it really doesn't matter if you start with 7.8.2 as it's just a matter of pasting the updated files into the BOINC folder to update it.
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Message 1896154 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 1896144.  

There hasn't been any official BOINC development for Linux since the old package on the BOINC website. And that version is broken mostly. TBar seems to be the most prolific Linux BOINC developer now and he hangs out on the Linux CUDA 'Special' App finally available, featuring Low CPU use thread.

He has posted new versions of BOINC over at Crunchers Anonymous. I'd either get the 7.4.44 build or the 7.8.2 build.

The 7.4.44 package also contains the CUDA special app which you have no use for since you are only AMD but you can just ignore that app and get the stock apps. The 7.8.2 build is just BOINC.
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Message 1896235 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 23:02:22 UTC - in response to Message 1896134.  

You heard wrong.
If you look at the top ten computers where do AMD GPUs feature? A long way off the mark. It is so simple to set up the nvidia drivers compared to the AMD ones, two or three mouse clicks and its done and running and stable, no need for constant tweeking once the initial tubing was done months ago - and one of those has sat in the top three for some time.
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Message 1896238 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 23:16:28 UTC

instead of calling it the top ten computers we could call it the top ten computers running petri's app with nvidia cards on linux
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Message 1896242 - Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 23:37:08 UTC - in response to Message 1896238.  

instead of calling it the top ten computers we could call it the top ten computers running petri's app with nvidia cards on linux

Indeed, thumbs up for Petri!

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Message 1896307 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 9:41:58 UTC

To be honest.
Its no big deal to install AMD Drivers on Mint.
I had my machine running in 30 minutes.
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Message 1896322 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 13:07:26 UTC - in response to Message 1896307.  

To be honest.
Its no big deal to install AMD Drivers on Mint.
I had my machine running in 30 minutes.


Hi Mike, I got 17.30 drivers installed with no issue for my Hawaii card, but I am trying to get everything in order before I even try the triple ProDuo. I hope to give it a try tomorrow. I got TBar's 7.8.3 BOINC Manager installed and working great. Is there an optimized CPU MB app for linux? CPU tasks are definitely taking a long time with stock apps.
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Message 1896324 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 13:24:35 UTC

Yes, you can download it from the Lunatics Website.
I`m using the SSE4.1 Version on my Ryzen.
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Message 1896328 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 13:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 1896324.  

Yes, you can download it from the Lunatics Website.
I`m using the SSE4.1 Version on my Ryzen.


This is definitely going to be a learning curve. I just dumped all of my tasks by not changing the mode of the executable. Next problem is that there was no app_info.xml file, so I just copied over the one provided with the AVX app. So there is no GPU app defined. Is there an easy way to configure it so that it uses stock GPU apps and the optimized CPU app?
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Message 1896338 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 14:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 1896328.  

I have the GPU App I've been using on my Old ATI cards with an app_info that you can use as a Guide. The SSSE3 CPU App doesn't work on AMDs very well so you need to at least change that. The GPU App should work, so at least it will give you something to start with, it's here, http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=197.msg4497#msg4497
It's getting a little old, but, it still works with my old GPU, and it doesn't give me the occasional False Overflow I get with the 3584 SoG App.
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Message 1896341 - Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 15:00:15 UTC - in response to Message 1896338.  

I have the GPU App I've been using on my Old ATI cards with an app_info that you can use as a Guide. The SSSE3 CPU App doesn't work on AMDs very well so you need to at least change that. The GPU App should work, so at least it will give you something to start with, it's here, http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=197.msg4497#msg4497
It's getting a little old, but, it still works with my old GPU, and it doesn't give me the occasional False Overflow I get with the 3584 SoG App.


Maybe a better approach would be to snag the current Stock GPU app from the project directory if I can get my system running stock GPU apps again. Then I can rename it and make the appropriate app_info.xml file.
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