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Message 1895446 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 2:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 1895421.  

Since China's Capitalist Leadership understands Capitalist Trump and his business practices.

If what you state is true they would not enter into any agreement of consequence with that person, would you?
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Message 1895521 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 17:25:50 UTC

The point being missed here is that Trump will not be the one negotiating with anyone, he will leave that minutiae to those in the DepState whose job it is to negotiate. He will give them a framework of what he will bottom line accept and demand in an agreement but Tillerson and the 'horned rimed glasses' crowd will do the lifting. So no outbursts or name calling at the table, what happens on Twitter though is another colored horse.

Trump does listen to those around him, sometimes to his detriment, but the circle around him now should be giving good advice regarding Ded Man Woking and the DPRK political 'atmosphere' (as far as it can be determined by outsiders).

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Message 1895523 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 17:31:19 UTC - in response to Message 1895521.  
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The point being missed here is that Trump will not be the one negotiating with anyone, he will leave that minutiae to those in the DepState whose job it is to negotiate. He will give them a framework of what he will bottom line accept and demand in an agreement
That's not negotiating, that is dictating. Dictating is failure. ergo tRump is failure. Kim has nukes and never gives them up, just as tRump dictates. Same as he dictates to Iran. Same as shrub dictated to Iraq.
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Message 1895524 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 17:37:47 UTC

That's not negotiating, that is dictating. Dictating is failure. ergo tRump is failure. Kim has nukes and never gives them up, just as tRump dictates. Same as he dictates to Iran. Same as shrub dictated to Iraq.


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Message 1895560 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 20:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 1895528.  

Since they can and do build anything they want, you call that backwards.

Perhaps you missed their announcement a while ago of their new hero, CNC, they even write songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6O33icSM3o

They manufacture CNC machines, tell me that isn't an advanced economy. They use those machines to build nuclear fuel processing plants and ICBM's, tell me that isn't an advanced economy.

But we understand you think everyone has identical wishes to you of baseball, apple pie and SUVs. All implanted by Madison Avenue. You are a perfect little communist robot doing exactly what the oligarchs want, make them rich.

You are operating by believing propaganda that is as valid as Saddam claiming to have huge stockpiles of WMD and you are going to make the same terrible mistake shrub did. Only this time you will kill a billion innocents.
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Message 1895565 - Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 21:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 1895560.  

Don't forget his belief that once Ping Pong II has been taken care of, North Korea will turn into good little democrats :-)

Or will we see how the US deals with that aftermath, just like the world saw after they got rid of Saddam.
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Message 1895609 - Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 2:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 1895606.  

now have a thriving advanced economy

It doesn't seem like a place I would like to visit much less live. Most of his populace knows nothing else. That will change over time, if the orange one would to think in decades not weeks.
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Message 1895625 - Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 5:01:58 UTC

......[CharpDots]......has Said Ad Nauseam, World Population should be Reduced to 500 Million. And He .......[CharpDots]...... has Many times advocated Death of Innocents.

Yet ......[CharpDots]...... Constantly Admonishes as Quoted Below.

Only this time you will kill a billion innocents.


Is .......[CharpDots]...... a Wannabe Preacher Man?


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Message 1895633 - Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 7:30:54 UTC

"100% of his subjects are willing to suicide to protect him [Kim]."

"Except in the DPRK that revolution, when Kim's dad starved them, didn't happen and they now have a thriving advanced economy totally dedicated to destroying the bully USA."


OK I whilst I don't believe 100% of the population would die to protect Kim I suspect a very large number would as they have been indoctrinated to believe his family is god. Him and his family are the only leaders in the world that have stood up against the American warmongers and war criminals (you know there is the Sinchon Museum of American War Atrocities).

And of course the revolution didn't happen and of course "The Dear leader" would have never starved his people. History has been "corrected"

And as to the last line I believe it should read "and they now have a thriving advanced military economy totally dedicated to destroying the bully USA"

With little or no outside contact with the world and a cult of leadership worship what else would you expect.

Now having given my thoughts can I ask that when you quote Gary you also now quote me in full, just to put the record straight and to make it even more boring that it is at the moment.

Just to let you know most people posting here are not goldfish with a 7 second attention span and are well able to remember who say what and don't to need reminding every few posts!
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Message 1895658 - Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 13:26:57 UTC - in response to Message 1895633.  

Just to let you know most people posting here are not goldfish with a 7 second attention span and are well able to remember who say what and don't to need reminding every few posts!

You are being charitable, the point of the constant repetition is the same as a cloud of mosquitoes, to suck conversation dry and annoy.
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Message 1895751 - Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 22:10:54 UTC - in response to Message 1895743.  

Anyone with knowledge of Human History understands that no one knows.
As you've stated that you are a retired university history teacher with such a good understanding of human history, WHY do you continue asking the same stupid questions of others that you yourself know the answer to?

Why do you keep dribbling on about the deaths/enslavement of billions when you have such an understanding of human history that those things will continue to occur long after everyone on these boards are dead & buried?
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Message 1895799 - Posted: 17 Oct 2017, 3:13:15 UTC - in response to Message 1895770.  

Who believes that Maniac Kim should be allowed to complete his plans?
Who believes that the plan isn't already complete?
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Message 1895811 - Posted: 17 Oct 2017, 5:23:24 UTC

Maybe some of these "heroes in their own mind" should grab their assault rifles with their bump stocks and go and see their hero Trump to get transport over there and let their actions speak louder than their words. ;-)

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Message 1895865 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 0:14:30 UTC - in response to Message 1895845.  

Maybe some of these "heroes in their own mind" should grab their assault rifles with their bump stocks and go and see their hero Trump to get transport over there and let their actions speak louder than their words. ;-)

Cheers.

Manac Kim is the problem.

Those who state that words my unhinge Kim. As many state. Have , perhaps unintentionally, acknowledged that Mass Murdering and Enslaving Kim is Totally Unstable.

Since Agreements regarding Nuclear Weapons with the Kim Family have always been spit on by them. What to do now?

Allow, as some have championed, Kim to terrorize the World into silence and submission to his will?

A preemptive strike against the now acknowledged unstable Kim who possesses nuclear weapons?

A possible agreement with China. Who is not Pro Kim, but Anti a Pro American Government on their border. To remove Unstable and Maniac Kim from Power?

Perhaps another option?

Some how IIRC I have read this litany many times, quite stale and totally unproductive IMO.
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Message 1895871 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 0:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 1895867.  

What are your proposals to ensure that Maniac and Unstable Kim is stopped?

My post had nothing to do with my opinions but your redundant posts. You are clogging the servers with spam.
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Message 1895875 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 1:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 1895799.  

Who believes that Maniac Kim should be allowed to complete his plans?
Who believes that the plan isn't already complete?

That's what I think. Kim is fine tuning his plans and upping the stakes with time .
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Message 1895880 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 1:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1895876.  

I say give him all the time/rope he wants. He can bluster all he wants.

Let him throw the first punch and then we smoke him and his off the face of the earth with global blessings.

There, happy?
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Message 1895884 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 2:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 1895882.  

Allow him to first murder innocents,

It looks like you want to be the first to murder millions of innocents.
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Message 1895917 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 10:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 1895865.  

Maybe some of these "heroes in their own mind" should grab their assault rifles with their bump stocks and go and see their hero Trump to get transport over there and let their actions speak louder than their words. ;-)

Cheers.

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Those who state that words my unhinge Kim. As many state. Have , perhaps unintentionally, acknowledged that Mass Murdering and Enslaving Kim is Totally Unstable.

-[ snip ]-

Some how IIRC I have read this litany many times, quite stale and totally unproductive IMO.

Agreed.

I don't see "his" actual posts, only what is quoted, and I still have to wonder about the truth behind "him" saying "he" was a college professor or some such. With statements constructed, as I have highlighted above, I don't believe "him". That statement should look like this:

"Those who state that words my unhinge Kim, as many state, have perhaps unintentionally acknowledged that mass murdering and enslaving Kim is totally unstable."

Now THAT makes more sense. :) (English was my better subject in HS) :) lol

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Message 1895930 - Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 13:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 1895880.  

I say give him all the time/rope he wants. He can bluster all he wants.

Let him throw the first punch and then we smoke him and his off the face of the earth with global blessings.

There, happy?
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