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Message 1881699 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 0:03:01 UTC

3 outrages this week counting Einstein, 2 unscheduled.
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Message 1881716 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 1:46:53 UTC
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Those "Results received in last hour" numbers look bad.
So....someone sees Smoke on some distant mountain, flips the breaker to the DNS Server, and then scurries off to their Safe space?
The last time this happened someone posted the DNS numbers and all was well, it's still fine here.
https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/modify-your-hosts-file/

208.68.240.118 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.119 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
208.68.240.126 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

Works for me.
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Message 1881721 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 2:31:45 UTC

I'm wondering how all my computers keep getting the SETI servers hosts entries commented out. They can't connect in that state. Unless I notice the building uploads or the messages that no work can be retrieved because of pending uploads, I wouldn't have known to go check the hosts file again. I don't know whether it is Windows doing the deed of some antivirus program. I have Kaspersky on the Win7 machines and using Defender on the Win10 machine. Two different AV programs makes it unlikely that they both are doing the same thing. Unless Windows directs them to do that.
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Message 1881725 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 1881721.  

I just added the DNS entries to my windows computer (which I have never worried about before since it has 1.5+ days cache) and noticed "Notepad must be run as Administrator"

Maybe that is why the file is being modified, wrong rights?
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Message 1881729 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 1881721.  
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I'm wondering how all my computers keep getting the SETI servers hosts entries commented out. They can't connect in that state. Unless I notice the building uploads or the messages that no work can be retrieved because of pending uploads, I wouldn't have known to go check the hosts file again. I don't know whether it is Windows doing the deed of some antivirus program. I have Kaspersky on the Win7 machines and using Defender on the Win10 machine. Two different AV programs makes it unlikely that they both are doing the same thing. Unless Windows directs them to do that.
Seems strange that DNS is OK to the web pages but not the upload server ... Don't think this would be a client issue.

HP-Z400b
117812			08/02/17 9:07:08 PM	Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site	
117813	SETI@home	08/02/17 9:07:08 PM	Temp failed upload 16ap08ae.32309.4571.13.40.61_0_r1507416175_0: can't resolve hostname	
117814	SETI@home	08/02/17 9:07:08 PM	Backing off 00:02:34 on upload of 16ap08ae.32309.4571.13.40.61_0_r1507416175_0	
117815			08/02/17 9:07:09 PM	Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.	

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Message 1881731 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 1881716.  

Thank you TBar I modified my host file in Windows Vista ultimate now I am connecting with no problem but I'm curious do I need to delete the modification on made to my host file after things return to normal? Thanks again
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Message 1881732 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:35:04 UTC - in response to Message 1881716.  
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Thank you TBar I modified my host file in Windows Vista ultimate now I am connecting with no problem but I'm curious do I need to delete the modification I made to my host file after things return to normal? Thanks again



OOPS sorry for the double posting
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Message 1881733 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 1881725.  

I just added the DNS entries to my windows computer (which I have never worried about before since it has 1.5+ days cache) and noticed "Notepad must be run as Administrator"

Maybe that is why the file is being modified, wrong rights?

I can edit the Hosts file with Notepad with no issues on the Win7 machines. I discovered I can't with the Win10 machine which just updated to the Creators Edition. Still learning the differences between that and Anniversary Edition. I had to use PowerShell and Administrator permissions to edit and Save the hosts file on the Win 10 machine. Soon as I fixed the hosts entries for the SETI servers, my backlog of uploads cleared and I started getting tasks again.

What commented out my previous entries in the first place though?
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Message 1881734 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 3:50:26 UTC - in response to Message 1881733.  

After a quick Search it seems bitdefender is one culprit.
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Message 1881738 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 4:15:47 UTC - in response to Message 1881734.  

After a quick Search it seems bitdefender is one culprit.

I'll have to do a Search on Kaspersky. Took a look at the Permissions on both the Win10 and Win7 systems. Only System has Write privileges. Had entries for Applications on the Win10 system which weren't there for the Win7 systems. But they didn't have Write privileges. So the mystery is still unsolved.
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Message 1881750 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:02:28 UTC
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Glad for this thread. Got home to find my main cruncher out of GPU work, uploads all sitting there doing nothing.
Un-commented the entries in my Hosts file, and now I can upload & get work again.
As to why it was the main machine that had issues, and the slow one was still able to upload, no idea. Just the natural perversity of things.

Ah, just had a look at my old system's Hosts file- never got around to commenting out the addresses 12 months ago.
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Message 1881752 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:12:30 UTC

I can't upload or see my stats!
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Message 1881756 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:20:49 UTC - in response to Message 1881655.  

Very soon now we will be out of Arecibo tasks. Is that all there is? Only BLCs from here on? At least they run fairly well with the CUDA Special App, especially the BLC02 types ;-)

Not too worried about the lack of Arecibo work. Plenty of GBT WUs to keep things chugging along.
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Message 1881757 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 1881655.  

Hmm.
Threads are loading OK, but posting is rather problematic.
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Message 1881758 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 1881750.  

Glad for this thread. Got home to find my main cruncher out of GPU work, uploads all sitting there doing nothing.
Un-commented the entries in my Hosts file, and now I can upload & get work again.
As to why it was the main machine that had issues, and the slow one was still able to upload, no idea. Just the natural perversity of things.

Ah, just had a look at my old system's Hosts file- never got around to commenting out the addresses 12 months ago.

So what are you entering in your hosts file that is getting commented out, if I may ask? Can you copy the relevants here?
Not sure why this would be in hosts rather than relying on DNS. What am I missing? Thanks
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Message 1881760 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:47:03 UTC - in response to Message 1881758.  

So what are you entering in your hosts file that is getting commented out, if I may ask? Can you copy the relevants here?

In the Hosts file I've got the server addresses there, so the system doesn't have to use a DNS to find what the address is to make contact.

Normally when BOINC contacts the servers it has to find the address using the DNS. It gives it the correct address for the relevant server so it can make contact. Having the address in the Hosts file it's able to make contact directly- no need to find out what the address is.
Of course with this method if the address changes, you loose the connection. Using the DNS, if the address changes it doesn't matter, the server finds out (eventually) what the new address is and passes it along when you next make a request to contact the server.

208.68.240.118 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu # upload server Oct 2016
208.68.240.119 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu # download server Oct 2016
208.68.240.126 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu # scheduler Oct 2016
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Message 1881763 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 7:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 1881750.  

As to why it was the main machine that had issues...
See the front page news.
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Message 1881764 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 7:05:20 UTC

Stuff happens.
Life goes on.
The planet will survive.
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Message 1881766 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 7:22:49 UTC - in response to Message 1881760.  
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So what are you entering in your hosts file that is getting commented out, if I may ask? Can you copy the relevants here?

In the Hosts file I've got the server addresses there, so the system doesn't have to use a DNS to find what the address is to make contact.
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Thanks
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Message 1881769 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 7:31:15 UTC - in response to Message 1881763.  

As to why it was the main machine that had issues...
See the front page news.

Ref to my original post.
I knew that there were issues and why.
However one machine had issues, the other didn't.
One was using the DNS, the other still had the addresses there from a previous time.
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