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Message 1919994 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:40:02 UTC - in response to Message 1919993.  

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Where is local? Maybe if you ask a friend/mate to place the RMA there will be easy. At least is what i do when things like that happening, And you receive a 100% working MB.

Taiwan. Been through 5 RMA trips already there.
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Message 1919995 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:42:11 UTC - in response to Message 1919991.  

Oooh, out of the country warranty limitations. Bummer! Hope you can wrangle it into working happily! Maybe one of the memory slots is just flaky, or something simple like that and you can run with 2 sticks.

Yes, this is mainly an educational exercise for me. As I stated, I haven't seen Intel hardware in over 25 years. Trying to learn what the mainstream knows of current and popular hardware.
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Message 1919997 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:43:04 UTC - in response to Message 1919994.  

Oh wow. 5 times? Now _that_ is fugly... :-/

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Message 1919999 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:47:52 UTC - in response to Message 1919989.  
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Yuppers, and I have it on water, though only on a Corsair all in one. I think it's the H110i, it's the one with the better pump/waterblock. It'll be interesting to see how far I can comfortably push it. I went with 64 gig of Kingston 3000MHz DDR4 DIMM CL15, Kit Of 4 XMP HyperX Predator, and WOW has the price on them gone up! They're now between $250 and 300 more than when I bought them late last summer.. I heard that DDR4 was getting painful, but as I haven't bought any for a while, thank goodness, I had no idea. Ugh.

I have my 1800X on a Corsair H110i and it does very well. Mainly around 60° C. +/- 3° C at 3.95Ghz. I feel your pain about the RAM. Insane prices for the past year. I wonder what will happen when the fabs make a full scale conversion to GDDR6 for all the new gpus coming on the market. How will that impact the DDR4 production lines?
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Message 1920000 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:50:14 UTC - in response to Message 1919997.  

Oh wow. 5 times? Now _that_ is fugly... :-/

Yes each time ASUS said the replacement board was tested as fully working. Again, wonder if the components used on it were somehow incompatible.
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Message 1920001 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:50:24 UTC - in response to Message 1919997.  

Oh wow. 5 times? Now _that_ is fugly... :-/

Definitely not good. :(

Maybe is one of the ones they talk about who had stability problems.
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Message 1920004 - Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 23:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1919983.  

The thing needs to be fed GHz, not cores
That goes back to that other discussion - you will want to run with threading off then to give it the most power you can.


I run with threads on. For Seti, it doesn't make much of a difference. For other projects, it may.
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Message 1920009 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:07:16 UTC - in response to Message 1920004.  

It is amazing to know that an industry leading program like SolidWorks is so behind the times and only single threaded.
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Message 1920010 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:07:52 UTC - in response to Message 1920004.  

Not sure how much HT being on might hold the OC'ing back, but I guess I can test it both ways to see. She's Gotta More Power, Cap'n! Just charge up the Dilithium crystals and we're on our way!

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Message 1920014 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:14:05 UTC - in response to Message 1920009.  

It is amazing to know that an industry leading program like SolidWorks is so behind the times and only single threaded.
I know, right? Apparently Siemens (I think, they told me who it was but I am not sure right now, I'd have to do some digging) is the company who owns and maintains the source code that it is built on, and until they see the light, and rewrite it to utilize multi-cores, Solidworks won't be able to implement it.

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Message 1920016 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:33:28 UTC - in response to Message 1920010.  

Not sure how much HT being on might hold the OC'ing back, but I guess I can test it both ways to see. She's Gotta More Power, Cap'n! Just charge up the Dilithium crystals and we're on our way!

Hey Al, can you say where the SolidWorks primitives are generated and handled mostly? On the CPU or GPU.
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Message 1920018 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:36:55 UTC - in response to Message 1920014.  

If the owner is Siemens, I can understand the slowness and reticence to change. They fit the same mold as my experience with Philips. The Europeans are slow and resistant to change until overwhelming market forces make them adopt change. Then the decision goes to committee for five years of discussion.
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Message 1920019 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 1920016.  

Keith, I think most everything other than the screen rendering is handled by the CPU, that's why I was also kind of bummed to learn that my dual 1080Ti card setup in it was pretty much unnecessary. : (

I was pressing them ( I know, look at me, Mr. Big Shot!) to also try to more fully utilize the GPU horsepower, because as we well know, at this point in time, GPU horsepower can greatly exceed CPU horsepower, especially when using only one or 2 cores. That's why they talk about the CPU GHz right now, that is where most of the work is being done. Hope they implement both upgrades when it's re-written...

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Message 1920021 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 0:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 1920018.  

Then the decision goes to committee for five years of discussion.
Oh god, then it probably won't be until 2025.. Ugh.

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Message 1920035 - Posted: 20 Feb 2018, 1:30:44 UTC - in response to Message 1920021.  

Then the decision goes to committee for five years of discussion.
Oh god, then it probably won't be until 2025.. Ugh.

LOL. Yes I wouldn't hold by breath :-{
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Message 1923905 - Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 5:25:51 UTC

Have prepped the computer room to make room for the new cruncher I will finish putting together on Monday. Had to make a interior door into a bigger desk surface to hold the three computer cases.

I am building the new Xeon system into a huge ThermalTake X9 chassis. It will be total overkill in size, but I wanted to try it out since it seems to be massively configurable and I can easily see it becoming home to a large custom cooling loop someday.

I have been kitchen tabletop testing the salvage ASUS X99-E-10G WS workstation motherboard with a Xeon E5-2620V4 chip with 16 threads. I am learning about Intel chips. For one thing I learned that Intel specifies a meaningless 3Ghz boost clock for the chip when in fact it is a locked multiplier chip via microcode. Stock is 2.1Ghz. I have found out about Turbostat and i7z realtime cpu frequency monitors and learned that the chip maxes out all cores at 2.3Ghz. I guess that will have to do. The motherboard is mainly just going to be home for graphics cards.

I only had 12GB of memory visible from my 4 stick 16GB kit with my first installation. So only two sticks working in dual channel mode and the other lone stick working in single channel mode. D1 slot wasn't being seen. Did more studying and finally decided to take the chip out of the socket and inspect the socket. Decided that 4 pins in the upper, outside row didn't line up exactly with the other pins in the row or array. Gently moved them back to position under a magnifying glass with a sewing needle where all the reflections of the ball tips lined up when I shined my LED flashlight on the socket from all angles. Reinstalled the cpu cooler and !Voila! I got all 16GB of memory to show up. Only can get the memory to boot and be stable at 2667Mhz but that is at least better than standard JEDEC 2133Mhz. If I study more and lurk some over on the Intel Xeon threads, I might be able to get the memory to work at its 3000Mhz spec. The motherboard is supposed to be able to support higher memory clocks with the right chips which mine is supposedly.

Very new experience for me dealing with LGA sockets and the very fragile and tiny pins that have to make contact with the LGA pads on the cpu. I learned the alignment has to be within 40 mils for each pad in each hexagonal structure array. Now that is some tight clearances. I never appreciated the simplicity of the PGA sockets I have always used for my AMD processors and early generation Intel chips.

Been stress testing the chip and memory for most of the week. Everything works fine. As long as the PCH and VRM heatsinks get some airflow over them. I didn't have any airflow on the motherboard initially and the system would lock up in the BIOS when I was looking around and making changes. The PCH heat sink and metal cover was so hot to the touch, that I couldn't keep my finger on them. Put a floor fan next to the table blowing air over the motherboard and that solved the instability issue. I guess X99 motherboards run very hot. Important to have adequate cooling at all times.

I will clone the old spinning rust drive I put my Ubuntu 16.04 installation onto a new Samsung 850 Pro SSD and then get busy installing BOINC 7.4.44, Nvidia 390.25 drivers and the CUDA90 special app. Haven't used a spinning rust drive in quite a while. Forgot how slow they are, Booting Linux takes forever compared to my Linux SSD installations or the Windows SSD installations.

If I don't hit any snags which I don't expect, the system should make an appearance Monday night.
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Message 1923926 - Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 7:41:17 UTC

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I am building the new Xeon system into a huge ThermalTake X9 chassis....
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Put a set of castor wheels underneath that case Keith before you put anything else into it. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1923971 - Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 16:02:09 UTC - in response to Message 1923926.  

LOL, yes they do in fact offer caster wheels as one of the accessories. I will have to heave it up onto the desk I built come Monday.
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Message 1924026 - Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 19:52:46 UTC

Keith, we'll have to compare notes on our systems, I have mine mounted into a monster case right now too, can't recall the name off hand, but I'm pretty sure it was German. Big honker, like 10-11 or so 3.5" HD bays (all full), top vents pop open for addl cooling, etc.

This is the week I am going to have to get it running, so first on the list is getting that strange RAID situation figured out, then we'll move onto the OS and SolidWorks/CamWorks installs.

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Message 1924029 - Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 19:57:21 UTC - in response to Message 1924026.  

Yes, this case is a monster too. 12 drive bays and room for 22 fans.
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