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Message 1901488 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 11:43:18 UTC - in response to Message 1901463.  

We Europeans aren’t happy at all.

a) When have you ever been happy with America?(Oh yeah, when we're spending lives bailing your butts out of a war.)

b) Try to imagine.......how little we care................about European opinion. We rejected Europeanism in 1776 and again in 1812.
Go peddle your opinion to someone outside of Europe who cares what 'Europe opines'.

In the world scheme of things there is China, Russia and America.......Europe is irrelevant. If not YOU take over funding NATO and defend yourselves.

Trump has made it clear......No more free or heavily subsidized lunch on the American Taxpayer we've got our own sins to pay for and our own children to look after 1st.

For the EU to have a European Defense Force requires that there be an EU Foreign Policy with its own department like the US State Department. That's not going to happen any time soon, maybe 2100 at the earliest if they work on it.
You've seen the mess with the Euro, imagine the problems with a common EU Foreign Policy.
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Message 1901489 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 11:52:34 UTC - in response to Message 1901488.  

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A Euro Army? By the time the relevant commands decided to attack Point A or defend Point B, the Russians will have steamrollered through Europe & end up marching down whitehall.
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Message 1901493 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 12:04:31 UTC - in response to Message 1901488.  

We Europeans aren’t happy at all.

a) When have you ever been happy with America?(Oh yeah, when we're spending lives bailing your butts out of a war.)

b) Try to imagine.......how little we care................about European opinion. We rejected Europeanism in 1776 and again in 1812.
Go peddle your opinion to someone outside of Europe who cares what 'Europe opines'.

In the world scheme of things there is China, Russia and America.......Europe is irrelevant. If not YOU take over funding NATO and defend yourselves.

Trump has made it clear......No more free or heavily subsidized lunch on the American Taxpayer we've got our own sins to pay for and our own children to look after 1st.

For the EU to have a European Defense Force requires that there be an EU Foreign Policy with its own department like the US State Department. That's not going to happen any time soon, maybe 2100 at the earliest if they work on it.
You've seen the mess with the Euro, imagine the problems with a common EU Foreign Policy.


Euro is a $h***y. Everyone wants to rule in Europe.
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Message 1901495 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 12:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1901463.  

We Europeans aren’t happy at all.

a) When have you ever been happy with America?(Oh yeah, when we're spending lives bailing your butts out of a war.)

b) Try to imagine.......how little we care................about European opinion. We rejected Europeanism in 1776 and again in 1812.
Go peddle your opinion to someone outside of Europe who cares what 'Europe opines'.

In the world scheme of things there is China, Russia and America.......Europe is irrelevant. If not YOU take over funding NATO and defend yourselves.

Trump has made it clear......No more free or heavily subsidized lunch on the American Taxpayer we've got our own sins to pay for and our own children to look after 1st.


JaundicedEye,

ROFLMAO.

It may not be entirely wise to tell 'em the truth like that. They will get all butthurt.

They had a chance... A relatively recent chance to be relevant. All they had to do was to grow a pair and throw Russia out of Crimea. Nope.

One reason for Europe's irrelevancy is their losing sight of the fact that, for Diplomacy to work there MUST be a credible 'or else...'. It does no good to carry around a 'big stick' if one does not hit someone else upside the head with it from time to time.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1901497 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 13:07:27 UTC

Back to discussing 45 and his dealings. Reuters - The Trump Ocean Club

Ivanka and the fugitive from Panama
Exclusive: How an alleged fraudster in Panama, working with Donald Trump's daughter, helped make Trump's first international hotel venture a success. The broker was in business with a money-launderer and two criminals from the former Soviet Union. Then he fled.

PANAMA CITY/TORONTO - In the spring of 2007, a succession of foreigners, many from Russia, arrived at Panama City airport to be greeted by a chauffeur who whisked them off in a white Cadillac with a Donald Trump logo on the side.

The limousine belonged to a business run by a Brazilian former car salesman named Alexandre Ventura Nogueira, who was offering the visitors a chance to invest in Trump’s latest project – a 70-floor tower called the Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower. It was the future U.S. president’s first international hotel venture, a complex including residential apartments and a casino in a waterfront building shaped like a sail.

“Mr Nogueira was an outgoing and lively young man,” remembered Justine Pasek, who was crowned Miss Universe by Donald Trump in 2002 and was acting in 2007 as a spokesperson for Nogueira’s company, Homes Real Estate Investment & Services. “Everybody was so impressed with Homes as they seemed to be riding the top of the real estate boom at the time,” she said.

One of those Nogueira set out to impress was Ivanka, Trump’s daughter. In an interview with Reuters, Nogueira said he met and spoke with Ivanka “many times” when she was handling the Trump Organization’s involvement in the Panama development. “She would remember me,” he said.
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Message 1901530 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 15:56:58 UTC - in response to Message 1901495.  

Theory, lives in past, status quo, only thing that changes is shorts.
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Message 1901594 - Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 23:47:37 UTC - in response to Message 1901570.  

Does anyone support the Trump Administration's decision?
More distraction in a vain attempt to delay the necessary impeachment.
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Message 1901631 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 1:32:54 UTC - in response to Message 1901610.  
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Anyone supports the Trump Administration's decision regarding Sports Hunting of Lions and Elephants?

Yep a few self centered oligarchs who like to kill endangered species in order to compensate for penis envy.
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Message 1901635 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 1:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 1901610.  


Impeachment does not remove him from office. You will have to wait until 2020 to remove him from office.



Yes and no, Clyde.

You are correct in that impeachment does not remove him from office. However, if impeached, we would not necessarily have to wait until 2020.

Impeachment by the US House is analogous to 'indictment' by a Grand Jury.

After 'impeachment' by the US House, the next step is trial by the US Senate. If the US Senate so votes, he is THEN removed (which is pretty much the only thing that can happen to him, at least on those counts. "Double jeopardy" and all.
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Message 1901641 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 2:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1901635.  

(which is pretty much the only thing that can happen to him, at least on those counts. "Double jeopardy" and all.
Nope, double jeopardy does not apply.
constitution wrote:
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
So he is fully libel in criminal and civil court and all testimony would be admissible, although the verdict wouldn't not that they could ever find a jury pool that didn't know it.

What they can do is toss him out and strip him of his pension, secret service protection, ex-president staff. Whatever the Senate decides "Trust or Profit" means.

I do see a little thing that needs to be added, that POTUS lose his power of pardon starting at the beginning of the day the House indicts until the day after Senate decides. Also that his power of pardon does not extend to impeachment. I think the framers would be happy with that as I don't think they realized how bad the bottom dwelling scum eaters we have as politicians could become.
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Message 1901656 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 5:20:12 UTC

Impeachment will never happen............period. It's another hookah dream conjured from the opium of 'they'll buy anything if we say it often enough'. Just another wasted effort by congressional cyphers seeking notoriety and wasting taxpayer money that will lead nowhere.

And Hill-liary has become a sad, pathetic figure still blaming and second guessing everyone but herself on the failure of her rigged nomination leading to the Presidency.

Doing book signings in an effort to not be forgotten as she rightly should be.

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Message 1901667 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 7:39:28 UTC

If You Want WAR in This Country, then Please Impeach and Have Your Trial.

You Will Get WAR.

Did You Watch dA MAGNIFICENT Display of LOVE dA JudgeROY People had Yesterday at Their Presser? Well, MAGNIFY this LOVE by MUCH and You will UNDERSTAND dA ANGER dats Waiting fO Your Impeachment and Trial.

Oh My GOoD GOD. Will You Have WAR.

dA War of Words and Yap

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Message 1901696 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 15:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 1901463.  

Go peddle your opinion to someone outside of Europe who cares what 'Europe opines'.
In the world scheme of things there is China, Russia and America.......Europe is irrelevant. If not YOU take over funding NATO and defend yourselves.
Trump has made it clear......No more free or heavily subsidized lunch on the American Taxpayer we've got our own sins to pay for and our own children to look after 1st.

Hmm. It's true that China and America are not part of Europe.
But Russia? Blin:)
A visit to an Insecurity Counsel
Vova and Con Don. Can they ever make this relationship work?
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Message 1901707 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 16:56:34 UTC

Hmm. It's true that China and America are not part of Europe.
But Russia? Blin:)
You missed or ignored the point being made, Jan.
China, America or Russian can eat Europe like an hors d'oeuvres, economically or militarily. The EU is incapable of defending it's citizens in any type of conflict on it's own.

The Euro-Emperor 'Has No Clothes'. So instead of trying to dictate which way the wind blows by opinions based on a flawed perception of reality, Europe should be happy they haven't been gobbled up long ago(which quite probably would have happened after WWII had not the risk been so large due to the despised Americans being there to contest such a move).

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Message 1901710 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 17:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 1901656.  

Impeachment will never happen............period.
After the mid-terms you might not be saying that.
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Message 1901713 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 17:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 1901710.  

Impeachment will never happen............period.
After the mid-terms you might not be saying that.

I will be sure to remind you of this post 'after the mid terms'. And you be sure to remind me when the fantasy impeachment actually occurs.

As Mr Mercer puts it.......HAR!

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Message 1901714 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 17:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 1901707.  

Moscow is in Europe.
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Message 1901716 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 17:18:12 UTC - in response to Message 1901714.  

Moscow is in Europe.
So Moscow votes the same block as Paris, Munich, Rome and Madrid?

Red Herrings smell bad.

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Message 1901733 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 19:32:51 UTC

GO AHEAD.

Make 45ers Day.

There Will Be NO Yap

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1901738 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 20:29:55 UTC - in response to Message 1901707.  
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Hmm. It's true that China and America are not part of Europe.
But Russia? Blin:)
You missed or ignored the point being made, Jan.
China, America or Russian can eat Europe like an hors d'oeuvres, economically or militarily. The EU is incapable of defending it's citizens in any type of conflict on it's own.
The Euro-Emperor 'Has No Clothes'. So instead of trying to dictate which way the wind blows by opinions based on a flawed perception of reality, Europe should be happy they haven't been gobbled up long ago(which quite probably would have happened after WWII had not the risk been so large due to the despised Americans being there to contest such a move).
Now there was a lot of red herrings:)
Have you read Trumps tweets to much lately?
China, America or Russian can eat Europe like an hors d'oeuvres, economically or militarily.
The only perhaps likely country of them to want to eat us economically or militarily is probably Russia.
Economically because of the EU trade policies and also sanctions that America is also part of, or militarily because many EU countries are members of NATO that America is leader of .

The EU is incapable of defending it's citizens in any type of conflict on it's own.
The EU doesn't have countries with united military or strategy to do that. Only countries to defend it's citizens in conflicts on it's own.
The Euro-Emperor 'Has No Clothes'.
Do you have one "Euro-Emperor" in mind?
Guess that Trump have:)
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