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Message 1899933 - Posted: 8 Nov 2017, 23:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 1899924.  

You either were not watching, or your memory is failing but Gary spent most of 2016 suggesting backing Gary Johnson as a better idea.

Quite correct and I cast my vote for the slate of electors pledged to him.

Perhaps some of this forum need to realize the world is not binary. [Oh, and they are going to start running into non-binary people soon and their states will have to abide by the birth certificates so stating, as required by the Constitution, no matter their binary views.]
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Message 1899944 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 0:49:47 UTC - in response to Message 1899937.  

LOL you came back.
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Message 1899982 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 6:25:21 UTC

Where are the 45's screaming how they are going to totally win every contest at the mid-terms?

Or look at what happens when candidates the people like run.
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Message 1899983 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 6:42:19 UTC

It looks like people are certainly not going to elect those who follow Trump's lead in playing their hate cards to win votes.

The mid-terms look like that they'll be very interesting indeed.

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Message 1899986 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 7:41:27 UTC

Million + voted Ed G.

Illegal Aliens; Other Non-Citizens, and FraudVotes 'Created' dA 'Winner'.

As Usual fO dA Libbers.

Winning as Usual fO dA Yap

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Message 1900003 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 12:14:45 UTC - in response to Message 1899986.  
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Yap, if every time "your candidate" loses you have to blame voter fraud and "illegal aliens" rather than accepting reality...
... then how can you possibly contest the "other side" doing the same with Russia, gerrymandering, etc.?

Do you have any actual evidence for your claim? I highly doubt it.
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Message 1900011 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 13:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 1900005.  
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BTW: If the Democrat Party finally admits that their attempt to divide this country along racial, gender, ethnic, etc. groups. Has been a disaster to their national political power.


You mean like blaming "illegal aliens" (not-very-subtle codeword for Mexicans) every time "your candidate" loses an election?
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Message 1900013 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 13:57:19 UTC - in response to Message 1900012.  
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Good, but you seem to be over focused on only one of them. By the way I did edit mine for fear it would be misinterpreted. Please do the same.

Also: So, Yap... any evidence yet?
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Message 1900017 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 14:48:05 UTC

Lov'n those jobs, 10,000 more looking for work than last week right in the middle of hiring for the holiday season!
https://apnews.com/12df8c1ade55475db80a4339b25cbf37/Applications-for-US-unemployment-benefits-edge-up-by-10,000
YAP, repeal Obama, put more on the Dole!
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Message 1900025 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 15:27:39 UTC - in response to Message 1900017.  

Lov'n those jobs, 10,000 more looking for work than last week right in the middle of hiring for the holiday season!
https://apnews.com/12df8c1ade55475db80a4339b25cbf37/Applications-for-US-unemployment-benefits-edge-up-by-10,000
YAP, repeal Obama, put more on the Dole!

ROFLMAO..............at least there IS some work to look for other than flipping burgers and scrubbing toilets in Motels(Obamanomics)...........I would be interested in how many posters feel the alleged fiscal pain personally to which they refer anecdotally........ and I'm sure those two Hurricanes had nothing to do with unemployment claims.........

By the way, AMAZON is hiring like crazy! And not just 'temporary' for the 'Holiday Season'(can't say CHRISTmas anymore?).

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Message 1900033 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 16:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1900025.  

the 'Holiday Season'(can't say CHRISTmas anymore?).
Kwanza and Druid Winter solstice celebrations generate more these days ... ;-)
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Message 1900036 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 16:33:09 UTC - in response to Message 1899983.  

It looks like people are certainly not going to elect those who follow Trump's lead in playing their hate cards to win votes.

The mid-terms look like that they'll be very interesting indeed.

Would have thought one of those 45'ers would be screaming that the DPRK hacked the elections or some such and 45'ers won by huge margins and where are the screams of fake news at the vote totals? Perhaps their capability to suspend belief in facts has limits after all.
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Message 1900047 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 17:24:49 UTC
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Would have thought one of those 45'ers would be screaming that the DPRK hacked the elections or some such and 45'ers won by huge margins and where are the screams of fake news at the vote totals? Perhaps their capability to suspend belief in facts has limits after all.
True THINKING citizens leave such accusations and infantile tantrums to those who can't accept their failure and move on(Hilliary Snowflakes)......

Kwanza and Druid Winter solstice celebrations generate more these days ... ;-)
And another glib remark when the facts aren't there for support....

I can only reference here in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area of Florida.

I know many, with good employment history, no criminal record, etc. Whose only available employment is Part Time, in the Service Industry, at very low wages.

Years ago, this was not the case.
Within your post is the answer to the local dilemma and part of the beauty of the USA.

..."here in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area of Florida."

There is an entire country to look for a job, it happened with my parents and grandparents in the Depression. They moved from Missouri, Arkansas, Nebraska and Louisiana and sought opportunities in Wyoming and Colorado.

Those opportunities exist today if people are willing to look for them. AND their local employment assistance offices should be helping them find those opportunities. This is part of the current apprenticeship programs being started and ongoing.

But the bottom line is when there was no 'social safety net' people went where the jobs were. The explosion of social benefits available has removed the incentive to relocate for a better lifestyle in a lot of cases.

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Message 1900048 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 17:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 1900047.  

There is an entire country to look for a job, it happened with my parents and grandparents in the Depression. They moved from Missouri, Arkansas, Nebraska and Louisiana and sought opportunities in Wyoming and Colorado.
carpetbaggers ... ;-)

Those opportunities exist today if people are willing to look for them. AND their local employment assistance offices should be helping them find those opportunities. This is part of the current apprenticeship programs being started and ongoing.
Correct, immediately leave the failed rust belt red states and come to the thriving blue states. ;-) Just know that you lose your government benefit once you cross that state line. Back in the depression government benefits didn't force people to stay put.
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Message 1900056 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 18:48:33 UTC

Back in the depression government benefits didn't force people to stay put.
EXACTLY my point. Local unemployment is also a National problem and requires both Local and National expenditures to offset in the form of benefits(unemployment comp, 'food stamps'(or whatever the term is now), housing subsidies, vouchers for this and that.........

The intelligent solution would be to apply those funds to matching those seeking jobs or better jobs to employers with open positions on a National basis and subsidizing the transition to those jobs. Emphasis due to the temporary nature of the benefit. It could also be in the form of a government loan guarantee(like student loans) and repaid to the lender as the employee becomes self supporting and hopefully prosperous in their new career.

I've stated infinitum that Masons, Electricians, HVAC Techs, Finish Carpenters(and Norwegian for that matter), Medical Equipment Techs and other fields are desperately in need of young people and older for that matter who are willing to learn a trade and relocate to where the work is. The problem I see is what you stated, the 'Rust Belt' states and all local governments are fiercely protective of themselves and their funding which would go away with the migration.

But that is a cycle that has repeated many times and has recovered each time.

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Message 1900063 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 19:46:47 UTC - in response to Message 1900056.  

I think you have the funding backwards. The states are terrified of lazy-butt sitters moving into them and instantly applying for welfare benefits, unemployment, etc. That is why those state paid benefits terminate when you move. You haven't been a resident of the new state long enough to qualify for them.

Now if you want to take these programs away from the states and make them federal so the benefits transfer ...
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Message 1900069 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 20:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 1900056.  
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It could also be in the form of a government loan guarantee(like student loans) and repaid to the lender as the employee becomes self supporting and hopefully prosperous in their new career.

So you now want to create more indentured servants for the banksters like the student loan programs have effectively done.
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Message 1900070 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 20:37:17 UTC

You two could find a problem with a cure for Cancer..........

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Message 1900071 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 20:44:31 UTC

An interesting report.

Where will it all end?

Have we crawled so far up our rectums, we'll never see daylight again?
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Message 1900077 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017, 21:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1900074.  

Thought atheists did not hold any "religious" beliefs?

So those arguing for statues to be removed or buildings renamed don't mind benefitting from the scholarships or libraries provided?
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