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Message 1884469 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 15:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 1884448.  

Eye, methinks you attribute too much to the left, those murders were not "left".
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Message 1884479 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 16:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 1884477.  
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Extensive list here Clyde https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups
Care to inform us which are alt-left? Were they present in Charlottesville?

You are either against Nazi's or you are one.
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Message 1884500 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 17:18:47 UTC - in response to Message 1884477.  

You are either against Nazi's or you are a Nazi.
Is there a hooded anti-fa going after the Nazi's in the picture?
Does it matter?

Gary... Because you have lost the moral and ethical argument. You are sinking further and further.

Since both JE and myself have repeatedly described the Nazis in the same terms you have.

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...and yet you've then gone on to minimise it by creating a false equivalency.

Lots of bad people were not at the rally...when you bring up all the bad people who were not at the rally to minimise the atrocities committed by those who actually were (Nazis, I'm talking about Nazis) then you negate any efforts at condemnation you've made.

You are an apologist. You've bought into a false narrative perpetuated by Nazis to defend Nazis because it suits you to do so.
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Message 1884515 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 17:48:21 UTC

In Barcelona today, same thing as in Charlottesville. Car driven intentionally into human beings.

Who is going to start the apologizing?

@es, they seem to be saying that only "a lily white" can speak out against a Nazi.
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Message 1884537 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 19:26:24 UTC

Charlottesville spokeswoman Miriam I. Dickler said that only one permit was issued for Emancipation Park — the one received by white nationalists staging the “Unite the Right” rally. However, counterprotesters did not need permits to protest that rally, she said.

“Please bear in mind that people do not need a permit to enter a public park, even when another event is scheduled to take place there, nor are they required to have one to be on streets or sidewalks adjacent to or outside the park,” Dickler said in an email.


On Saturday, when the major violence occurred, people started gathering in Emancipation Park. Charlottesville Police Chief Al S. Thomas Jr. told The Post the white-nationalist groups went back on a plan that would have kept them separated from the counterprotesters. The two sides started clashing, and by 11:22 a.m. police had declared an unlawful assembly.

“I think what the president is trying to say is that counterprotesters did not have a permit to be in Emancipation Park,” Heinicke said. “That’s irrelevant.” He added: “Either way you cut it, the president got it wrong.”


So trying to say that one party was there legally and the other was not is a disingenuous argument at best.
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Message 1884565 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 21:38:30 UTC

I don't understand anybody that defends these fascists that marched in Charlottesville, even Steve Bannon describes them as clowns. http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant

The question of whether the phone call was on or off the record never came up. This is also puzzling, since Steve Bannon is not exactly Bambi when it comes to dealing with the press. He’s probably the most media-savvy person in America.

I asked Bannon about the connection between his program of economic nationalism and the ugly white nationalism epitomized by the racist violence in Charlottesville and Trump’s reluctance to condemn it. Bannon, after all, was the architect of the strategy of using Breitbart to heat up white nationalism and then rely on the radical right as Trump’s base.

He dismissed the far right as irrelevant and sidestepped his own role in cultivating it: “Ethno-nationalism—it's losers. It's a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”

“These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.
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Message 1884582 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 22:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 1884545.  

Extensive list here Clyde https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups
Care to inform us which are alt-left? Were they present in Charlottesville?

You are either against Nazi's or you are one.

The Rise of the Violent Left

Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

Sorry Gary...

Your attack against one sides hate and not the others.

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That whole article is reaching at best. Antifa is not one organisation, it's an umbrella group and hardly as dangerous and "evil" as you like to claim. They are anti-fascist. You might not support some actions (mainly destruction of property) buy you cannot claim their cause is evil and they no way equate to Nazis. To do so is disingenuous.

Apart from that, they weren't even involved in the rally where the white supremist terrorist drove a car into innocent protesters.

You are summoning phantasms to justify your support of Nazis.
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Message 1884585 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 22:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 1884582.  
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You are summoning phantasms to justify your support of Nazis.
IIRC did he not at one point post that he was of Jewish descent? Not that you can believe anything that is posted.
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Message 1884588 - Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 22:35:29 UTC - in response to Message 1884585.  
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You are summoning phantasms to justify your support of Nazis.
IIRC did he not at one point post that he was of Jewish descent? Not that you can believe anything that is posted.

Not only Jewish but Syrian and Somalian as well.
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Viking, Polish (Jewish), Roman Legionary, Greek Philosopher, Syrian, Somali Warrior.

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Message 1884615 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 0:46:32 UTC - in response to Message 1884582.  

You are summoning phantasms to justify your support of Nazis.

ES as you should well know by now that is his way.
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Message 1884616 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 0:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1884615.  

You are summoning phantasms to justify your support of Nazis.

ES as you should well know by now that is his way.

Not just his, but the entire alt-right spectrum. It wouldn't exist but for that.
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Message 1884620 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 1:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 1884618.  
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You've posted that wild card before. The current population of the world stands at 7,524,667,000 approx.
Your standing in that is 0,000,000,001

Of the rest, there are many still living who had relatives living throughout that period who were murdered, fought & died to stop such atrocities.

As seen by your posts, the descendants of those find the Nazi regime despicable. However that does not stop them from having views on the world of today, not that of 70 odd years ago.

Those very same descendants have been labelled as Nazi supporters by yourself, therefore your view is disgusting & your views of others all because their views do not fit into your narrow bracket is deplorable.

Suggest you start debating what afflicts you & the world today rather than the world of yesteryear of which you had no participation in.
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Message 1884621 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 1:45:47 UTC - in response to Message 1884618.  
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My sister and I were raised by our Polish Jewish Grandmother. We lost many relatives, murdered by the Nazi's. I will never forget my Grandmother crying over our relatives pictures, who were murdered by the Nazis.

My DNA shows shows Scandinavian, Polish Area, Italian, Greek, Syrian Area and Somalia.

My immediate family is Latino, Black, and Caucasian. In addition to Jewish, Roman Catholic, Baptist and Atheist.

I hold with absolute disgust and worse. Those posters, who must display their inner filth and evil. By calling people who are against all evil. Pro Nazi.

Understanding this may result in some action by The Mod's. To those calling anyone who has had relatives murdered by the Nazi's. A Pro Nazi or an Enable of the Nazi's.

You are totally disgusting!

CLYDE

With your declared family background you should be one of the main parties deploring the actions of the extreme right last w/end.

That extreme group believe that to be American and governing the US you have to be White-non Latino/Hispanic, Protestant and male. You are not in that group, so if they were to take over, where would you end up?

Yes, there a very few left wing extremists in the US, but they, by and large, have not performed any violent acts since the late 1980's.

If you were to stick to the discussion at hand, and put a little thought into it you would realise, like me, you are anti-Fascist. But that only puts us somewhere into the centre. Even people quite far to the right of the GOP have stated they are against the acts of right wing extremists last w/end.
Republican lawmakers also chastised Trump’s response in implicit and explicit terms. “Mr. President—we must call evil by its name,” Colorado Senator Cory Gardner wrote on Twitter. “These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.” Florida Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen said “there are no other ‘sides’ to hatred and bigotry.” Florida Senator Marco Rubio also noted it would be “very important for the nation to hear [President Trump] describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by [white supremacists].”


What are your thoughts on this; http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2017/1096/BillText/Filed/HTML
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Message 1884636 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 3:26:03 UTC - in response to Message 1884628.  

You guys have, as I knew you would. Shown why your attacks are held in greater contempt than what Trump says.

Contempt from an intellectually bankrupt source are a joke. You are rapidly approaching the ex-poster ID in veracity.
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Message 1884639 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 3:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 1884628.  

Surely it is Trump that is being held in contempt.
So if you want to support him, go ahead, we all know where you stand, and it is not in the main stream as shown by Trump again blamed ‘both sides’ in Charlottesville. Here’s how politicians are reacting.
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Message 1884641 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 4:03:19 UTC

What some posters apologize away.
https://news.vice.com/story/vice-news-tonight-full-episode-charlottesville-race-and-terror

You are either against Nazi's or you are one!
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Message 1884678 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 9:41:33 UTC

Comparing All Posters on a One to Ten Scale, I Give ClydeNotClyde a Ten, and Posters Lambasting ClydeNotClyde a One.

With Ten Being SUPERIOR to One.

Now, Do I Like ClydeNotClyde? I Could Leave Him More than Take Him, but Compared to dA Ones, Like I Said: SUPERIOR.

Me, Yeah, I'm Racist; Bigoted, Prejudiced; With HIGH TOXIC Masculinity, MEGA Sub-Conscious This, Conscious That, and All Kinds of CODE Stuff and Micro Stuff.

You Know, An All-Around HATER.

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Message 1884698 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 11:37:18 UTC - in response to Message 1884674.  

Hillary Clinton’s warning about Trump and white supremacism August 25th 2016, (2m 36s).

ROFLMAO 😆

Hil-liary..............saw problems everywhere......except in the mirror........how 'bout a comeback Hil?

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Message 1884708 - Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 12:45:09 UTC

Eye, when was a mass shooting recently in this country attributed to the left?
Seeing as he couldn't (or wouldn't) answer the question to any degree of satisfaction for most of us then let's look at the stats.

Over the past 10 years (2007-2016), domestic extremists of all kinds have killed at least 372 people in the United States. Of those deaths, approximately 74% were at the hands of right-wing extremists, about 24% of the victims were killed by domestic Islamic extremists, and the remainder were killed by left-wing extremists (that's 2% for the mathematically challenged).

Now those who still defend Trump's and the Alt-Right stance on things are no better than them themselves in showing just how out of touch with the real world they really are and all these people need to be told just how bad they really are (they're nothing but waste of air and space in my books).

Tina Fey, James Murdoch and Arnold Schwarzenegger are now ear bashing Trump (and his band of Alt-Right dip-sh#ts) over Charlottesville.

Meanwhile, Tony Schwartz (co-author on Donald Trump’s book "The Art of the Deal") reckons that “Trump’s presidency is effectively over”, "Trump will resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice" and "Would be amazed if he survives till end of the year. More likely resigns by fall, if not sooner", and that would be the best news that the majority of the world love to hear.

Cheers.
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