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Message 1875650 - Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 10:50:27 UTC - in response to Message 1875611.  

You have 12 threads, so give it a try :D



Looking screen..... DUH....... Uh.........
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Message 1875696 - Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 16:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1875600.  
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After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact.


Yup ... still not standing still ... hummmm ...

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Edit: Currently running 8.05 and it displays the same way
Edit2: it also ignores the "number of stars"
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Message 1875699 - Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 16:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 1875696.  

After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact.


Yup ... still not standing still ... hummmm ...

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Maybe they were "born to shimmy"? :)
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Message 1876121 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 4:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 1875696.  

After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact.

Yup ... still not standing still ... hummmm ...

Those parameters a passed to the app in init_data.xml (which is in 'slots')

<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>


This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by:
- Snooze / unSnooze
- Start another task
- Restart BOINC
 


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Message 1876127 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 4:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 1875571.  

We're not testing with the screensaver, but with the standalone graphics window.
From Boinc Manager "Show Graphics" or what it says on the button in English.

. . OK thanks, that settles it for me. There's the rub you see, in my BOINC manager that button is greyed out.

Just select a Running CPU task (isn't that obvious?)


From memory there is an option during install to use BOINC graphics or not and I am rather sure that I chose "not".
So I would guess that the only way to use them now would be to re-run the install. That would be too disruptive :(

BOINC screensaver is always installed. (in BOINC install directory and in Windows directory)
So you can see "BOINC" in the list of Windows screensavers.

The question "during install to use BOINC graphics" only changes (or not) the Setting in Windows about which screensaver to be used.

SETI@home screensaver (setigraphics_X.yy_windows_intelx86.exe) comes with the CPU applications (i.e. is Downloaded automatically by BOINC)
SETI@home screensaver is started directly by "Show Graphics" or the BOINC screensaver starts SETI@home screensaver.
 


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Message 1876153 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 6:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 1876127.  


. . OK thanks, that settles it for me. There's the rub you see, in my BOINC manager that button is greyed out.

Just select a Running CPU task (isn't that obvious?)


. . OK, another D'oh! moment for me. I guess expectations can lead a person down the proverbial garden path. Knowing I had selected the "not" option during install, and having a task selected in the task window (but not a running one) I was not surprised to find the button greyed out and looked no further ... :( my bad

. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph?? The downside is that since the servers see fit to not send me any work I will probably be shutting down all boxes very soon, they are all either out of GPU work or very close to it ...(

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Message 1876154 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 7:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 1876153.  
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. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph??

From top menu here:
Science -> About SETI@home -> Screensaver graphics explained
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

The graph do not show all the calculations, maybe one in 1000 or 10 000 (?) else the computing will be too slow.
 


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Message 1876204 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 14:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 1876154.  

. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph??

From top menu here:
Science -> About SETI@home -> Screensaver graphics explained
http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html

The graph do not show all the calculations, maybe one in 1000 or 10 000 (?) else the computing will be too slow.


. . This is very interesting, I am seated at a different computer and I tried to activate the graphic display on this machine to go through the explanation but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task. Oh well.

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Message 1876213 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 14:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 1876121.  

This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by:
- Snooze / unSnooze
- Start another task
- Restart BOINC


Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ... as I said in 8.5 and in current test. I assume the problem s me but I don't see how. Hummm

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Message 1876220 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 14:47:33 UTC - in response to Message 1876213.  

This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by:
- Snooze / unSnooze
- Start another task
- Restart BOINC


Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ... as I said in 8.5 and in current test. I assume the problem s me but I don't see how. Hummm

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I don't think it is you. The problem is either Boinc is not passing the correct values via the init_data.xml file, or there is a problem in the graphics routine. Right now, all SetiBeta is giving me is GPU tasks, but the preference values are still passed in the init_data.xml file, so I lean towards the problem being in the graphics routines not reading them correctly.
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Message 1876230 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 15:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 1876213.  

Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ...

Check if init_data.xml have:
<roll_period>0</roll_period>
<roll_range>0</roll_range>
<pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
<pitch_range>0</pitch_range>

If not (and you already Restarted BOINC) - you may have home / school / work Preferences and you changed the wrong "Location"
Or you have/see another account in the browser (e.g. of friend) and changed that.

Or you changed Preferences here and not at SETI@home BETA

Look in file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml and account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta.xml
for the same 4 rows above - do they have 0s
Watch also for line like this:
<venue name="school">
This shows there exist "Separate preferences for school"
 


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Message 1876234 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 15:21:38 UTC - in response to Message 1876204.  

but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task

It have to be:
Running
SETI@home
CPU
Stock

i.e. Not GPU and Not optimized (e.g. AVX or SSE3 apps don't have graphics)

Check in Windows Task Manager what .exe is actually Running
 


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Message 1876336 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 23:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 1876234.  

but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task

It have to be:
Running
SETI@home
CPU
Stock

i.e. Not GPU and Not optimized (e.g. AVX or SSE3 apps don't have graphics)

Check in Windows Task Manager what .exe is actually Running


. . Hi BilBg,

. . Again you have provided the answer, this machine is running AVX :)

Stephen

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Message 1876381 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 3:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1876230.  

Watch also for line like this:
<venue name="school">
This shows there exist "Separate preferences for school"


B I N G O

o.k. so it was "<venue name="home">" Good help!! Thanks

I had no idea I was using anything other than "default" over on beta

Thanks again!!

ED F

BTY it works fine!
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Message 1877180 - Posted: 6 Jul 2017, 23:07:50 UTC

Still getting good graphics on both "select a task" displays of 8.07(alt) and via screen saver under Windows 7 with 3 different cpus.
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Message 1877378 - Posted: 8 Jul 2017, 0:57:11 UTC


Windows/x86 running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 8.05 10 Feb 2017, 20:57:18 UTC 193 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 8.07 (alt) 28 Jun 2017, 1:13:32 UTC 245 GigaFLOPS


Well, if the same rule applies as it did for the 8.06(alt) I would say the testing has been passed so I will be shutting down my SetiBeta.

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Message 1877844 - Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 9:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 1877378.  

I just noticed that we are now crunching v8.08(alt) apparently there is something else we are testing for.

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Message 1877845 - Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 9:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1877844.  

I just noticed that we are now crunching v8.08(alt) apparently there is something else we are testing for.

Intel iGPU issues displaying the graphics. This latest version appears to have sorted them.
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Message 1879196 - Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 7:20:01 UTC - in response to Message 1879076.  

Let's see how long it takes before it pass 8.05.

Less than 2 weeks, more than 1 week. Some where around there I reckon...

Edit- it's already up to 186, and 8.05 has also increased slightly.
Maybe it can do it in under a week.
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Message 1879559 - Posted: 22 Jul 2017, 0:55:46 UTC

Does anyone have a copy of the new CPU executable to download for 32bit OSs?
I've got Lunatics installed on my old C2D, this new application is much faster than the older one for that hardware.
I'm guessing I just need the executable in the Seti project directory, and change all the references in app_info.xml from the present one to the new one & it should work? No other files required (it uses the existing ones?)
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