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Message 1889893 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 10:02:27 UTC

Parsons Green: London Tube blast treated as terror incident
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41278545
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Message 1889922 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 14:41:13 UTC

And now Trump again with ridiculous comments :(
Another attack in London by a loser terrorist.
These are sick and demented people who were in the sights of Scotland Yard.
Must be proactive!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908642277987356673
Donald Trump's tweet claiming that the perpetrator behind an explosion on a Tube train was known to British security services is "speculation", police say.
"We don't even know who the suspects are so it's a bit difficult to say," a Metropolitan Police source told The Independent. "It's just speculation."
He appeared to be suggesting that the perpetrator or perpetrators were previously known to British security services, as was the case with the attackers in Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge.
Mr Trump went on to call for the internet to be “cut off” as a recruitment call for terrorists.

And the London MET is very proactive!
There has been 11 terror incidents only this year in Britain.
6 of them was avoided by the police but 5 didn't.
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Message 1889929 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 15:22:01 UTC - in response to Message 1889928.  

I must agree with Trump in this matter.
So you agree that the provision of false information/speculation is acceptable?
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Message 1889939 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 15:58:14 UTC

What most leaders of the Western world and the progressive left fail to realize is that the "Religion of Peace" has been at war with other religions since its inception. Christianity was like this until its Reformation in the late middle ages. The leaders of the "Religion of Peace" refuse a reformation and that the so-called moderates in the religion are unable and/or unwilling to reform it. President Trump and the President of the Philippines recognize this war; The question is will the other Western leaders and progressives realize this in time to do anything about it?
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Message 1889948 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 16:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1889939.  

What most leaders of the Western world and the progressive left fail to realize is that the "Religion of Peace" has been at war with other religions since its inception. Christianity was like this until its Reformation in the late middle ages. The leaders of the "Religion of Peace" refuse a reformation and that the so-called moderates in the religion are unable and/or unwilling to reform it. President Trump and the President of the Philippines recognize this war; The question is will the other Western leaders and progressives realize this in time to do anything about it?


Good thing ex-Muslim atheists are speaking out.
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Message 1889954 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 16:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 1889939.  

The leaders of the "Religion of Peace"
Name them. Can't can you?
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Message 1889957 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 16:45:55 UTC - in response to Message 1889944.  

I must agree with Trump in this matter.
So you agree that the provision of false information/speculation is acceptable?

Of course not. Only regarding that this is a War. Not a police matter.

Wait a minute.
War against what?
Every terrorist attacks are almost done with a very few individuals .
The police knows a lot better than an army to find those terrorists.
And here in Europe we don't the want military walking in the streets or searching someones house to find "evidences"!
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Message 1889959 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 16:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 1889939.  
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Darrell, Islam is not monolithic. It is split into numerous groups with differing and often opposing goals. Most of the issues we are having these days are with one sect (Wahhabist Salfism) of one branch (Sunni); the officially designated terrorist groups ISIL/Daesh, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Taliban (not Wahhabist but Salafist) and many others are members of this sect. Ironically, this branch of Islam has leaders that we can identify: the Saudi royal family (you know... America's best buds, and unfortunately Canada's as well) and the Saudi clerics under their control. The official religion of Saudi Arabia is Wahhabist Sunni Islam, after all.

These groups treat other Muslims with equal or greater disdain even than the west. Surely you haven't missed all the terrorist incidents/massacres directed at Shia mosques (often with much greater loss of life than those directed at secular western targets.) They have also been directed at the most placid and often overlooked branch of Islam: Sufism.
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Message 1889983 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 18:13:38 UTC - in response to Message 1889909.  

Parsons Green: London Tube blast treated as terror incident
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41278545
Act of War would be the correct description.
Actually, as the day has worn on, I'd say that either terrorism or psychological warfare would be apt descriptions. Much panic and disruption has been caused, but very little actual damage to either people or property. It may may be a lucky misfire, of course: the device - following full examination - may turn out to have been capable of causing greater loss, but we won't know for certain until much later.
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Message 1890038 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:05:04 UTC

I send wishes of recovery to the victims and their families.

A sentiment that I notice is missing from every other post.
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Message 1890042 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:07:23 UTC - in response to Message 1890038.  

I send wishes of recovery to the victims and their families.

A sentiment that I notice is missing from every other post.



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Message 1890048 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:17:06 UTC - in response to Message 1890022.  

My fear is, that unless we can stop their attacks 100% of the time. There will be one, whose results will be so terrifying. The normal human reaction will be more terrible than anything we would do now.
Yes, and it will most likely come from North Korea. Or perhaps the United States.
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Message 1890049 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:17:46 UTC

DEVIL aka Black Shirted; Black Covered Face, are Havin' Their Due. LEFTIES in General, fO dAt Matta. I'd Call Them Terrorists.

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Message 1890052 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:25:05 UTC - in response to Message 1890051.  

The United States is not Kim or ISIS.
It is 50 states, many with grievances against the federal govenment. It is that government that makes it united.
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Message 1890056 - Posted: 15 Sep 2017, 21:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 1890048.  

My fear is, that unless we can stop their attacks 100% of the time. There will be one, whose results will be so terrifying. The normal human reaction will be more terrible than anything we would do now.
Yes, and it will most likely come from North Korea. Or perhaps the United States.

+1 on the latter
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Message 1890163 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 13:36:00 UTC - in response to Message 1890022.  
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Much panic and disruption has been caused, but very little actual damage to either people or property.

Ever seen 'flash burns'?
Yes, this is a War by elements of the Islamic Faith.
What is the difference between Enemy Combatants personally carrying bombs and incendiary devices. And Enemy Combatants carrying the same in airplanes, to be dropped at the same locations?
Just because they have no uniform. Which means they are War Criminals/Illegal Combatants, who may be executed. Does not make this a Civilian Police Problem.
My fear is, that unless we can stop their attacks 100% of the time. There will be one, whose results will be so terrifying. The normal human reaction will be more terrible than anything we would do now.
No, we cannot destroy their beliefs. That is impossible. What we can destroy, is their belief in a present day victory. Which, because of moral and ethical people failure to acknowledge reality. Is fueling their present day belief in inevitable victory and results in the continuing and nonstoppable killing of innocents.

It is surprising for many that the terrorist threat in Western Europe peaked in the 1970s and 80s. That context is often forgotten.
But even though terrorist attacks in western countries are serious and raise great concern, there are the vast majority of deaths in other parts of the world. According to the figures SVT News has chosen, 25,673 people were killed around the world in confirmed terrorist attacks last year, of which less than one percent in western countries. Only in the Middle East and North Africa were 14,075 people killed in such attacks last year.
https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/
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Message 1890180 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 14:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1890165.  

Much panic and disruption has been caused, but very little actual damage to either people or property.

Ever seen 'flash burns'?
Yes, this is a War by elements of the Islamic Faith.
What is the difference between Enemy Combatants personally carrying bombs and incendiary devices. And Enemy Combatants carrying the same in airplanes, to be dropped at the same locations?
Just because they have no uniform. Which means they are War Criminals/Illegal Combatants, who may be executed. Does not make this a Civilian Police Problem.
My fear is, that unless we can stop their attacks 100% of the time. There will be one, whose results will be so terrifying. The normal human reaction will be more terrible than anything we would do now.
No, we cannot destroy their beliefs. That is impossible. What we can destroy, is their belief in a present day victory. Which, because of moral and ethical people failure to acknowledge reality. Is fueling their present day belief in inevitable victory and results in the continuing and nonstoppable killing of innocents.

It is surprising for many that the terrorist threat in Western Europe peaked in the 1970s and 80s. That context is often forgotten.
But even though terrorist attacks in western countries are serious and raise great concern, there are the vast majority of deaths in other parts of the world. According to the figures SVT News has chosen, 25,673 people were killed around the world in confirmed terrorist attacks last year, of which less than one percent in western countries. Only in the Middle East and North Africa were 14,075 people killed in such attacks last year.
https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

These should not be considered isolated attacks. Nor attacks from locally small groups.
This is just a continuation of an International War against both Our Civilization and Freedom itself. By very large and well funded Groups. Whose evil goals are supported by millions.

No. You are wrong.
The attacks in Europe has always been isolated and by locally small groups.
The two terror attacks here in Stockholm was done by two different persons.
One was a Iraqi immigrant and the other one a citizen from Uzbekistan.
Usually the attacks are confirmed by the Amaq news channel.
Like this for instance.

But calling it well funded Groups supported by millions....
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Message 1890218 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 17:39:01 UTC - in response to Message 1890193.  

The means of their 'victory' are individuals, in addition to small and large groups around the world. Their supporters number in the millions.

Daesh and likes doesn't have supporters number in the millions in Europe.
Nor North America, South America or Australia.
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Message 1890242 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 20:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 1890232.  

Of course there is difference of opinion between me and Clyde.
I live among many Muslims and Clyde don't (I think).
Yes. I have also some problems with some Muslims.

Jan, Clyde paints with too wide of a brush or known as a hasty generalization. I find that to be intellectually very weak. An analogy would be because there are some "Christians" who are Nazis all Christians are Nazis.
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Message 1890252 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 20:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 1890022.  

Ever seen 'flash burns'?
No, I'm not a medical man. But I know that they can come from a sudden, brief, encounter with flame.

How do they compare with the initial radiation burst from a thermonuclear weapon, or with prolonged contact with a flammable substance such as napalm?

It is an 800 year War, waged now by One International Culture against All Others.
800 years, eh? That takes us back to the thirteenth century, round about the time of the fifth crusade.

When a 1,200 year old religion was waging an aggressive war against a 600 year old religion. Sometimes I despair of the human race, when it dredges up such old memories without learning from them.
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