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Message 1865078 - Posted: 1 May 2017, 19:21:45 UTC

Thinking into the future of SETI. 100 years from now.
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Message 1865811 - Posted: 5 May 2017, 23:08:10 UTC - in response to Message 1865078.  

Thinking into the future of SETI. 100 years from now.


Gives me a headache...Besides, I'll probably be DEAD.

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Message 1865843 - Posted: 6 May 2017, 5:55:03 UTC - in response to Message 1865811.  
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Thinking into the future of SETI. 100 years from now.


Gives me a headache...Besides, I'll probably be DEAD.


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Message 1865850 - Posted: 6 May 2017, 8:35:31 UTC

Er, define outer space? External to the solar system? If we travelled to another star in the Milky way galaxy, and ran our servers there, they would still be receiving data from earth bound dishes, unless it is being proposed that the dishes are taken along with the servers. Practically that would take rather large spaceships one would have thought. Even at the nearest star Alpha Centauri at 4 LY away would not give us any more info than we get now from earth based sources.

If we haven't found anything or no contact after 120 years, I expect we'll have given up by then!
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Message 1865982 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 9:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 1865078.  
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Look at Sirius using sky-map.org and you probably will be able to observe "their" antennae.

And not any "dishes" either.

BTW: Welcome to Seti@home, except for the possible spelling above.

Suggestions welcome.

Except for that, the possible gaussian versus intelligent signal translation, which I could have a little more about later on.
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Message 1865986 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 10:38:37 UTC

All planets were once like planet Earth.

What evidence do you have for that? There are many that think that the sun has cooled down and that Mars is what Earth will be, and that Earth is what Venus will become. In truth the Sun is currently a Yellow Dwarf and will become a Red Giant when in its later life it heats up and expands, and likely engulfs Mercury, Venus and Earth.

We have life on the 3rd planet of this star system because it is in the "habitable zone" distance from its Star, Sol, the sun, for our kind of life forms.
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Message 1866171 - Posted: 8 May 2017, 4:23:39 UTC

What would be the advantage of moving the web servers into space? Now I can see a definite advantage to moving the search antennae to the far side of the moon to totally eliminate stray signals from earth from the mix.
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Message 1866208 - Posted: 8 May 2017, 7:55:32 UTC - in response to Message 1866171.  

Ah, two problems there Bob. Firstly the antennas you speak of to collect signals are actually rather large dishes! We don't have the technology to build one up there, let alone land and set up something the size of a TV aerial. Secondly how would we get a signal back from the far side of the moon? You'd be talking some sort of orbiting satellites at the La Grange points or similar to pick up and re-direct the signals.

You could mount say a 6ft dish on the ISS, but would that be any better than Earth based dishes? And in any case it is not fixed, the ISS orbits the earth. Also the Moon rotates on its axis as well. Our best bet is to refine the algorithms to be better at weeding out RFI.
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Message 1866318 - Posted: 9 May 2017, 0:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 1866208.  

Ah, two problems there Bob. Firstly the antennas you speak of to collect signals are actually rather large dishes! We don't have the technology to build one up there, let alone land and set up something the size of a TV aerial. Secondly how would we get a signal back from the far side of the moon? You'd be talking some sort of orbiting satellites at the La Grange points or similar to pick up and re-direct the signals.

You could mount say a 6ft dish on the ISS, but would that be any better than Earth based dishes? And in any case it is not fixed, the ISS orbits the earth. Also the Moon rotates on its axis as well. Our best bet is to refine the algorithms to be better at weeding out RFI.

Remember, he is talking about 100 years from now. The problems you are referring to should be in the past by then.
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Message 1866367 - Posted: 9 May 2017, 6:07:22 UTC - in response to Message 1866318.  

Remember, he is talking about 100 years from now. The problems you are referring to should be in the past by then.

The moon has been rotating on its axis for 4.53 billion years, and the earth on its axis for 4.54 billion years. I doubt that will change much in the next 100 years. Even in 2117, I doubt we would have the technology to build something like the GBT or Arecibo dish on the far side of the moon, permanently staff it, and get the signals back to Earth. Even now the Chinese only have modest proposals for a small moon base on the near side of the moon maybe by 2040 at the earliest.

Even if it was do-able, why would they bother anyway? For all we know we may have found ET by 2075, and no need to look any more. It's all conjecture and pie in the sky Bob.
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Message 1867060 - Posted: 13 May 2017, 2:19:17 UTC - in response to Message 1866367.  

Remember, he is talking about 100 years from now. The problems you are referring to should be in the past by then.

The moon has been rotating on its axis for 4.53 billion years, and the earth on its axis for 4.54 billion years. I doubt that will change much in the next 100 years. Even in 2117, I doubt we would have the technology to build something like the GBT or Arecibo dish on the far side of the moon, permanently staff it, and get the signals back to Earth. Even now the Chinese only have modest proposals for a small moon base on the near side of the moon maybe by 2040 at the earliest.

Even if it was do-able, why would they bother anyway? For all we know we may have found ET by 2075, and no need to look any more. It's all conjecture and pie in the sky Bob.

If we stifle all imagination and out of the box thinking you are right, we will never get anywhere.
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Message 1867067 - Posted: 13 May 2017, 5:35:39 UTC - in response to Message 1867060.  

Out of the box thinking has sometimes in the past led to unexpected scientific breakthroughs that is true. Of course we have to have hope and a measure of imagination as well, but I prefer to be pragmatic and consider what is most likely to be the immediate and foreseeable future. The title of this thread is the Seti servers in outer space, I have simply said I don't think that is doable, and even if it was, what benefit would it bring.

If we didn't hope to find ET, Seti wouldn't exist, but let us be in no doubt of the odds against it. But if we don't look we will never find.
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