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Message 1949624 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 11:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1949614.  

I needed to move my Gtx 1060's cards off the current machine in preparation to move them onto a larger/faster motherboard.

I installed a couple of GTX 750Ti's. They have been running Seti@Home forever. Boinc doesn't consider the gpu's to be "useable".

I have tried removing and then re-installing the Seti@Home via Bonic Manager. I re-ran the "setup" and then re-copied the CUDA90 files into the seti@home project folder.

I have tried to update the video drivers through the "update software" program.

What am I missing? I don't really want to reload Lubuntu with the "new" video cards in place to "fix" everything but I guess I will if no one has a better idea.

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What is meant by "unuseable"? What does the Event Log say?


I thought I remembered "unusable" but looking at the log, it says GPU is missing.



Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.4.44 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.58.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2n zlib/1.2.11 libidn2/2.0.4 libpsl/0.19.1 (+libidn2/2.0.4) nghttp2/1.30.0 librtmp/2.3
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Data directory: /home/tlgalenson/Desktop/BOINC
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | No usable GPUs found
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Host name: LYNNES-SATURN-LINUX
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5680 @ 3.33GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm epb pti tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | OS: Linux: 4.15.0-30-generic
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Memory: 11.71 GB physical, 2.00 GB virtual
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Disk: 191.98 GB total, 174.63 GB free
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 8560172; resource share 1000
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 04-Aug-2018 13:30:07)
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | SETI@home | Computer location: school
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for school; using your defaults
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Preferences:
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | max memory usage when active: 8991.40MB
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | max memory usage when idle: 10789.68MB
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | max disk usage: 172.78GB
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | don't use GPU while active
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
Tue 14 Aug 2018 06:56:20 AM CDT | | Not using a proxy

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Message 1949625 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 12:14:09 UTC

No video drivers listed. Are you running Nvidia drivers?? What does nvidia-smi in Terminal report?
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Message 1949640 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 13:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1949625.  

No video drivers listed. Are you running Nvidia drivers?? What does nvidia-smi in Terminal report?


I have been poking around and not only does "nvidia-smi" not report any drivers but I can't get the very old binary in the "additional drivers" to install.

So I am quite confident I need step by step instructions on installing Nvidia drivers. I have managed to download the current set of drivers from nvidia but haven't been able to make the manual install work....

Ummmm.... help?

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Message 1949655 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 14:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 1949640.  

Hey Tom, look at Youtube and search for Installing proprietary Nvidia Drivers on Ubuntu by Ohheyit'sLou.

He shows you how to down load drivers from the PPA and install them. Also, when you are looking for your nvidia driver, look for the nvidia-compute (insert driver version) is also there. I know when I was looking at trying to install the 396 there was no nvidia compute for 396 listed so it wasn't installing those.

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Message 1949663 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 15:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 1949640.  

No video drivers listed. Are you running Nvidia drivers?? What does nvidia-smi in Terminal report?


I have been poking around and not only does "nvidia-smi" not report any drivers but I can't get the very old binary in the "additional drivers" to install.

So I am quite confident I need step by step instructions on installing Nvidia drivers. I have managed to download the current set of drivers from nvidia but haven't been able to make the manual install work....

Ummmm.... help?

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You are running the stock Nouveau drivers somehow that don't support compute. You will have to install the nvidia drivers with the compute components too.
sudo apt remove --purge nvidia*
sudo apt install nvidia-390
sudo apt install nvidia-compute-390
sudo apt install nvidia-compute-utils-390

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Message 1949685 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 21:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 1949663.  

Sigh. My patience expired earlier today.

So I reinstalled Lubuntu. And got part of the way through Boinc before I realized I didn't have a full set of instructions. They were in the previous messages. So let me check them, because boincmgr is not starting :(

What files do I have to transplant so that Boinc doesn't issue me yet another computer id?

I made copies of all the logical ones. But I still am not sure.

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Message 1949691 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 21:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 1949685.  
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If you are using the version of BOINC from CA, 7.4.44 or 7.8.3, the boinc folder in your Home folder contains Everything related to BOINC. It's entirely self-contained.
The usual practice is to ZIP the BOINC folder to preserve the Execute bits, then copy it to a USB drive or some other location. All that is required to 'reinstall' it is to unzip it to your Home folder.
Of course, with a new system you will have to install the two dependencies again, and the video driver.
I use the Recovery mode to install the driver. When you first boot you will see the Grub screen with systems listed on it. Use the down arrow to select Recovery mode.
After it boots, enable networking and then Root. Then run the apt-get remove --purge nvidia* from there.
After that run apt-get autoremove to remove the leftovers. Then cd to the location of the driver you downloaded and set the Execute bit on. If you placed it in your home folder it would be;
cd /home/username
Then type dir to print the contents of home and you should see the driver there. Then install the driver;
./drivername
Afterwards enter reboot to restart.
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Message 1949760 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 1:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1949691.  

I seem to be up and running on two gtx 750Ti's. And things "seem" to be running ok ;)

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Message 1949893 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 16:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 1949760.  

I seem to be up and running on two gtx 750Ti's. And things "seem" to be running ok ;)

Thank you all.

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. . That's good, it's RAC is picking up quickly. But I have to ask, is the rig with the "1060-3GB" the card you bought from Asia?

. . Because a 1060-3GB should have 9 CUs not 4 ... :(, and take about 7.5 mins to do a Blc task with SoG, not 26 ...

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Message 1949913 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:34:30 UTC
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My Old CentOS 6.4 refused to load on new hardware (some sort of kernel panic while booting) so I decided to go with new installation of (this time) Ubuntu 18.4 as mostly recommended here. I have some fake chinese flash that claims it 128GB but has only ~16GB real storage space.
Currently it partitioned that single primary partition ~14GB works OK being formatted into FAT32. Advantage of that flash - it's very small so can be attached to netbook constantly w/o fear to mechanically break it on transportation. So, I would like to install Ubuntu there (on the first 14GB of "virtual"128 ones).
Is it possible? Can Ubuntu use already created partition, just reformat it into ext4 or whatever modern Linux uses?

EDIT: recommended 25 GB of free hard drive space... More than I will have on that flash.' Does all modern OSes really need to be SO space-hungry ???
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Message 1949917 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 1949913.  

That's only for the full default installation. During installation when it asks, choose the Minimal Installation which is just the kernel, necessary support files and network. Won't load all the crap fluff like the games, LibreOffice, and all the unnecessary media support apps. Should fit in 9GB easily. You can choose which file format you want to use, default is ext4.
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Message 1949967 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 21:59:50 UTC - in response to Message 1949917.  

Will be possible to install on the same drive from that booted? Just in another partition?
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Message 1949991 - Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 0:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 1949967.  

Will be possible to install on the same drive from that booted? Just in another partition?

Yes, if there is enough room. I gather you are trying to install to a USB stick? The Live USB takes about 1.9GB. So if you have say a 32GB stick then you could partition a 2GB partition and a 30GB partition and boot from the first partition say and install to the second partition. Should work. USB running at 3.0 or 3.1 speeds is still slower than normal hard drives or SSD speeds. Doable but slow.
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Message 1950009 - Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 1:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 1949913.  

My Old CentOS 6.4 refused to load on new hardware (some sort of kernel panic while booting) so I decided to go with new installation of (this time) Ubuntu 18.4 as mostly recommended here. I have some fake chinese flash that claims it 128GB but has only ~16GB real storage space.
Currently it partitioned that single primary partition ~14GB works OK being formatted into FAT32. Advantage of that flash - it's very small so can be attached to netbook constantly w/o fear to mechanically break it on transportation. So, I would like to install Ubuntu there (on the first 14GB of "virtual"128 ones).
Is it possible? Can Ubuntu use already created partition, just reformat it into ext4 or whatever modern Linux uses?

EDIT: recommended 25 GB of free hard drive space... More than I will have on that flash.' Does all modern OSes really need to be SO space-hungry ???


. . Hi Raistmer,

. . I am running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with default installation on a 16GB flashdrive without problems, but if I do any updates I have to manually remove the old versions to keep enough free work space on the drive. Using sudo autoremove and sudo autoclean helps with some stuff but I have to use Synaptic Package manager to remove the redundant versions of the OS. Not sure how much more space 18.04 LTS requires as I have not been able to get it to install and boot on the new 32GB flashdrive for the new system. The install keeps failing with a grub error saying it cannot make the drive bootable ... :( Though Lubuntu, a lightweight version that might be helpful for you, did install and boot AOK, it just did not have what I need to work with Linux.

. . Fast USB3.0/3.1 32 GB flashdrives are very reasonably priced here. Send me a pm ..........

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Message 1950092 - Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 10:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 1949893.  

I seem to be up and running on two gtx 750Ti's. And things "seem" to be running ok ;)

Thank you all.

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. . That's good, it's RAC is picking up quickly. But I have to ask, is the rig with the "1060-3GB" the card you bought from Asia?

. . Because a 1060-3GB should have 9 CUs not 4 ... :(, and take about 7.5 mins to do a Blc task with SoG, not 26 ...

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The card you are talking about is a "FAKE" http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8281049 Gtx 1060 3GB. It has 192 shaders, and I have read speculation that a GT 570 is hidden under there.

I have a used gtx 750TI on order that should be here on Friday. And that stage things should get back to "normal".

Since I am having good luck with dual-booting I am considering turning that machine into another "secret sauce" machine. It's cpu has AVX so should crunch a lot faster than it does with stock SETI (at least it did under Lunatics beta distro).

I expect to resurrect the 16c/32t machine (e5-2670) Saturday afternoon. It will have two Gtx 1060's and probably shortly after I get it home (the resurrection will be held at the local cemetery err my Nephews basement tech workshop) I will get it upgraded to CUDA90.

It is possible I will have a single cpu version of the same system up and running next week. It will probably start out as a CPU-only cruncher while I round up another GPU. The gtx 750Ti's are getting down to $50 on eBay in some cases. So two of those produce a respectable result for the time being.

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Message 1950097 - Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 11:17:47 UTC

The card you are talking about is a "FAKE" http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8281049 Gtx 1060 3GB. It has 192 shaders, and I have read speculation that a GT 570 is hidden under there.
More likely it's a GTX550Ti or GTX560M core at that configuration. ;-)

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This question is about how to setup the bios of a high end 16c/32t motherboard.

The basics are clear via a discussion with Wiggo some time ago.

1) Turn off the motherboard wait states. aka: Intel Speedstep.
2) Turn on Intel's "Turbo Boost."

Many motherboards don't really let you tinker with the "standard" overclocking features.

The Intel motherboard I had previously didn't clearly state (as I think I remember) where to turn off the "wait states" and where to turn on the "Turbo boost."

Discussion: On your high core count MB what tuning did you try or not try?

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Message 1950261 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 8:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1949991.  
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Will be possible to install on the same drive from that booted? Just in another partition?

Yes, if there is enough room. I gather you are trying to install to a USB stick? The Live USB takes about 1.9GB. So if you have say a 32GB stick then you could partition a 2GB partition and a 30GB partition and boot from the first partition say and install to the second partition. Should work. USB running at 3.0 or 3.1 speeds is still slower than normal hard drives or SSD speeds. Doable but slow.

I used (as recommended in Ubuntu tutorial) Rufus to flash ISO into USB stick.
Unfortunately it recreates partition and allocates full drive to that partition. So, before OS installation I need to shrink bootable partition with ISO itself.
Currently I decided to go another route - to boot ISO into VirtualBox having USB stick attached to it.
I hope this will make possible to install OS on USB stick w/o using same stick for booting ISO image.
Work in progress cause on my netbook booting Ubuntu under VM isn't speedy process :)
EDIT: it sits here https://clip2net.com/s/3W7nyTe more than half hour already :/
CD icon flashing so I hope it didn''t hang, just veeeery slow....
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That is slow, but looks about right.
Next popup is Time Zone, I think ...
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Message 1950272 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 12:04:51 UTC - in response to Message 1950261.  


I used (as recommended in Ubuntu tutorial) Rufus to flash ISO into USB stick.
Unfortunately it recreates partition and allocates full drive to that partition. So, before OS installation I need to shrink bootable partition with ISO itself.
Currently I decided to go another route - to boot ISO into VirtualBox having USB stick attached to it.
I hope this will make possible to install OS on USB stick w/o using same stick for booting ISO image.
Work in progress cause on my netbook booting Ubuntu under VM isn't speedy process :)
EDIT: it sits here https://clip2net.com/s/3W7nyTe more than half hour already :/
CD icon flashing so I hope it didn''t hang, just veeeery slow....


. . If the red dot is moving along the row of dots it should still be proceeding ...

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