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Message 1873213 - Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 21:19:02 UTC

I have had three scam calls on my dad's phone today, I always answer now.

One apparently from BT and two from "Microsoft" all with extremely difficult to understand Indian accents, all terribly bad at reading the script.

I also hate being called Mr Wine, I mostly say "No" and hang up.

One of them was going on about my computer generating errors and was totally floored when I said "which one", there was a long pause, then he just carried on with the script.

As I got bored easily, I started to say, I had spent my last 12 years working in IT support, oh he seems to have hung up.

Odd thing is I haven't had a call in weeks, and to get 3 on the same day, weird
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Message 1873214 - Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 21:35:23 UTC - in response to Message 1873212.  
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I'm pretty sure IRS never phone you.
I've received calls from them. Their skip trace people to serve a tax lien on some cheat the place I worked for was doing business with.

What happens if you don't answer?
I forgot:)
Knock, knock!
Registered mail.. .special delivery
OH NO
You're gonna hafta sign fer this, buddy
OH NO
I know you're in there, ya little sumbitch
OH NO
Goddam little communist. . .
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Message 1873215 - Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 21:39:06 UTC

You were on there back log to call list.

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Message 1873221 - Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 22:50:40 UTC - in response to Message 1873214.  

Jan, a lien would be to seize from the cheat any money we owed the cheat. We were 3rd party. Also get those for child support to garnish paychecks.

The calls from skip trace though were looking for any contact information we might have, like a change of address or a phone number they didn't have.
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Message 1873224 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 0:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 1873221.  
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Jan, a lien would be to seize from the cheat any money we owed the cheat. We were 3rd party. Also get those for child support to garnish paychecks.
The calls from skip trace though were looking for any contact information we might have, like a change of address or a phone number they didn't have.

Sounds like fraud invoices to me.
Many companies get them here.
Many pay them as well.
It's difficult to tell fraud invoices from real invoices.
But that they phone the company is new to me.
Usually unpaid invoices go straight to our IRS.
Pay or else!
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Message 1873227 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 0:18:37 UTC

"Emily" has NOT bothered me again for a couple weeks now. Though, prior to that, she tried calling in THREE times in two days. Also, she's/it's taken to calling my parents' line several times over the past week.

I was getting a "newer" Robocall that I let go to my answering machine for screening. This one is NOT too intelligent of a scammer; as the "caller" seems to start talking during my machine's outgoing message. By the time my machine beeps to let the incoming message record, all I get is "...there's no..." and then the call ends. My machine is Voice Activated; so, I know that it's not cutting the caller off; the caller is ending itself when it realizes I haven't answered the phone, live. The Caller ID's for this one have varied; some labelled as persons' names; some just with the phone number. All of the calls have been "Local"; BUT, one Caller ID claimed to be "Claremont Homes"; so, I researched that company name, it IS legit. I called them to let them know that Scammers are passing themselves off as Claremont Homes, I got a call back from CH and they were thankful of the information and are now investigating legal options against the perpetrators. :-) CH confirmed with me that NONE of their reps use automated "robot" systems, and that the Caller ID Number I reported to CH may have been an OLD CH Number at one time. However; now, I haven't had a repeat of this Scammer for about a week.


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Message 1873239 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 1:14:28 UTC - in response to Message 1873224.  

Jan, a lien would be to seize from the cheat any money we owed the cheat. We were 3rd party. Also get those for child support to garnish paychecks.
The calls from skip trace though were looking for any contact information we might have, like a change of address or a phone number they didn't have.

Sounds like fraud invoices to me.
Many companies get them here.
Many pay them as well.
It's difficult to tell fraud invoices from real invoices.
But that they phone the company is new to me.
Usually unpaid invoices go straight to our IRS.
Pay or else!

Jan, not fraud with return addresses of the IRS, payment payable to United States Treasury, on form 668 and they usually enclose a return envelope franked postage paid US Government, for official business only.

Understand they know to contact the company because we have reported making payments to the person they are after in the past, be if employee or contractor. They want their money, and since the cheat didn't send it to them when they asked nicely, now they are going to take it by force.
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Message 1873243 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 2:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 1873224.  

Jan, a lien would be to seize from the cheat any money we owed the cheat. We were 3rd party. Also get those for child support to garnish paychecks.
The calls from skip trace though were looking for any contact information we might have, like a change of address or a phone number they didn't have.

Sounds like fraud invoices to me.
Many companies get them here.
Many pay them as well.
It's difficult to tell fraud invoices from real invoices.
But that they phone the company is new to me.
Usually unpaid invoices go straight to our IRS.
Pay or else!

I'm beginning to think your English isn't quite strong enough to understand all the terms, acronyms, and idioms Gary is using.

His company got calls from federal tax investigators who were trying to track down other firms that his company was doing business with and that were cheating on their taxes. The investigators had two goals: to get additional contact information for the tax cheaters, and to seize funds his company may have owed to the cheaters. I'm sure his company's people were smart enough to request official paperwork and check it carefully before handing over any money. On other occasions, government officials wanted to garnish the wages of employees who were not paying child support as ordered.

I'm not saying fraudulent invoices don't happen, but they're not what Gary was talking about.
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Message 1873254 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 3:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 1873227.  

"Emily" has NOT bothered me again for a couple weeks now.
Same voice, different script today.
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Message 1873300 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 10:08:33 UTC - in response to Message 1873243.  
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I'm beginning to think your English isn't quite strong enough to understand all the terms, acronyms, and idioms Gary is using.
All the phone scammers think we Swedes understand all the terms, acronyms, and idioms in English.
And with a heavy Indian accent:)
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Message 1873512 - Posted: 17 Jun 2017, 4:27:13 UTC

Have now received 5 calls this week on and 2 last week on my Google Voice (VOIP) number from "random callers" - all with the same modus operandi where they are calling from the SAME Area Code & Prefix/Exchange of my GV number but a different random last 4 digits. They have not been able to leave any messages because GV has been automatically marking them as spam/junk calls.

There has been some discussion on the 800Notes.com forums about this "trend" and a few people posted that it has been happening on their cell phone numbers also.
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Message 1873514 - Posted: 17 Jun 2017, 4:29:38 UTC

Windows support scams: Here's how we're taking down fraud kingpins, says Microsoft

Microsoft is fighting tech-support scammers' automation with artificial intelligence from its research labs.

Faced with skyrocketing complaints about tech-support scams, Microsoft is turning to artificial intelligence to identify the masterminds behind the fraud.

Besides prettying up iPhone photos and blitzing Ms Pac-Man, Microsoft's AI is helping fight the real-world problem of tech-support scams, whose operators are increasingly using the web to automate the fraud with pop-up ads that lock browsers to a bogus but seemingly legitimate security warning.

... One of the tricks scammers use to give the impression of a locked browser pop-up is using ads that refresh in microseconds. White created a model that targeted this signal, which the Digital Crimes Unit used to scan the web. Once it captured these sites, it used computer vision to pull out phone numbers and other clues pointing to the attack's origin.

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Message 1875472 - Posted: 28 Jun 2017, 11:12:38 UTC

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Message 1877531 - Posted: 8 Jul 2017, 23:21:25 UTC

Not phone, but still idiots with computers.
A few times I've gotten bulk rate specials to a Gary different last name. Somebody didn't have the last name field selected when they hit sort in excel.
Today however takes the cake. While the names have caps as their first letter, the rest looks like it came out of a random number generator as far as I can tell.
Do these marketing idiots realize how much $$$ they are wasting buying crap lists?

OB Phone. Been getting calls for my Dad again. I kept the family phone number when he died 18 years ago as a couple of relatives may not have had any other number. Tell me how anyone thinks a person who hasn't made a purchase in 18 years is a good prospect to call?
Worse, I got one for Mom. She has been gone 30 years now.
Do these marketing idiots realize how much $$$ they are wasting buying crap lists?
Of course the number is on the national do not call list, makes no difference to a criminal, he'll jiggle every door lock on the block.
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Message 1877983 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 16:10:32 UTC

Just got a call with a new twist.
"Hello this is nurse Karen with a medial alert. Can you hear me ok? " The call went on asking several question which would likely elicit a yes response.
It was a recorded voice. But this one was a native English speaker. Clearly a scam attempting to record you saying yes.
Take care they are getting better.
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Message 1884267 - Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 19:45:16 UTC

Over the last THREE DAYS, I've been getting calls every random few minutes that are Scam Calls. I finally took advice from someone here who said to do the following.

"It's done. There's blood everywhere. Send the cleaner."

Well, I had my car in for service today, and needed their shuttle driver to pick me up. So, when he called, the Caller ID did NOT specify the shop that I use; SO, I ran through the above quote in as serious a voice as I could muster. I SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF THIS POOR SHUTTLE DRIVER!!!!! OMG, the two of us had a laugh all the way back to the shop to pick up my car.

lol


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Message 1884281 - Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 20:46:33 UTC

I got another resort call yesterday. When she tried to get me to say yes, I said, trying to match her bubbly sweet voice, "Bullsh*t." She took that as a "no," said something polite, and hung up.

I got a call today from a recording that wanted to thank my mother for supporting President Trump and if she could donate $50 today, somebody or other would triple-match it. I told him that if she were alive she would tell him to go to hell (she wouldn't, but that was as much as I could tone down what I really wanted to say). He said he'd put us on their do not call list and hung up.

And I got the one again today from Account Services about lowering my credit card interest rate. That one ends with press 1 to talk to a live person or press 2 to be put on our do not call list. I hung up.
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Message 1884289 - Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 21:47:58 UTC

Over the years I have received about one per week and as recent as yesterday afternoon I received one of these "free cruise" scam calls...

You Could Be Entitled to $300 if You Received This Spam Call. Here’s How to Check

The most effective way to fight telemarketers? Sue them and force a settlement—one worth up to $12.5 million.

A Chicago judge approved a settlement last month that forces Carnival, Norwegian, Royal Caribbean, and a marketing company that worked with them to pay up for spamming people with pre-recorded telemarketing calls that promoted the cruise lines.

The problem? These calls allegedly violated the federal Telephone Consumer Protection Act, or TCPA, because the marketing company contracted to initiate the calls, Resort Marketing Group, didn’t have people’s permission to contact them.

If you received one of these calls, you could get up to $300 per call you received (up to $900 per phone number). To find out if you qualify, you can check out the class action’s website and search to see if your phone number qualifies.

...

According to the settlement agreement, only those who have their phone numbers are listed in Resort Marketing Group’s database are eligible for a payment. The pre-recorded calls went out between July 23, 2009 and March 8, 2014. All claims must be postmarked by November 3, 2017, or electronically filed by 11:59 p.m. (PT) on November 3, 2017.

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Message 1884298 - Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 22:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 1884290.  

I've never had a phone scam call in my entire 60+ years life.
Not even normal telemarketing calls.

Lucky you.
I use this to avoid telemarketing calls.
http://nixtelefon.org/
Works very good.
However phone scam calls...
Perhaps 15 calls from Calcutta saying I have problems with my computer.
Even my GF get those calls despite from the beginning she didn't have a computer.
Sigh...
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Message 1884321 - Posted: 16 Aug 2017, 23:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 1884290.  

I've never had a phone scam call in my entire 60+ years life.
Not even normal telemarketing calls.


Pray tell, who have you managed that?
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