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Message 1856630 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 18:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 1856629.  

Gary that's what happens when you try to discuss something with an ideologue.
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Message 1856637 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 18:55:53 UTC - in response to Message 1856630.  

Gary that's what happens when you try to discuss something with an ideologue.
Are you saying that all ideologues are haters?
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Message 1856642 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 19:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 1856637.  

Gary that's what happens when you try to discuss something with an ideologue.
Are you saying that all ideologues are haters?

IMO one of the characteristics of being an ideologue is an intolerance of differing viewpoints.
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Message 1856645 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 19:53:02 UTC - in response to Message 1856618.  

Putting a mentally unstable, physically weak, known felon with uncontrolled anger issues in the white house would not have helped ...

Putting a mentally unstable, physically weak, known felon with uncontrolled anger issues in the white house will not help, and it isn't helping. And his/your party is not the answer either,

[edit] Plain and simple I don't think liberal ideology is the problem, the problem is people and their greed. And putting a big ol' long coat wearin' orange ball of greed in the white house was a very bad move.

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plus a few more.

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Message 1856646 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:10:46 UTC - in response to Message 1856611.  

Plain and simple I don't think liberal ideology is the problem, the problem is people and their greed.

Health care in the US costs twice as much then other OECD countries.
Why? Apparently because of all leaching greedy lawyers in the US.
Should the US deal with that fact?
Hopefully.
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Message 1856647 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1856646.  

Plain and simple I don't think liberal ideology is the problem, the problem is people and their greed.

Health care in the US costs twice as much then other OECD countries.
Why? Apparently because of all leaching greedy lawyers in the US.
Should the US deal with that fact?
Hopefully.

That is part of the problem, the cost of meds due our patent laws is another.
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Message 1856648 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:15:33 UTC - in response to Message 1856647.  

Plain and simple I don't think liberal ideology is the problem, the problem is people and their greed.

Health care in the US costs twice as much then other OECD countries.
Why? Apparently because of all leaching greedy lawyers in the US.
Should the US deal with that fact?
Hopefully.

That is part of the problem, the cost of meds due our patent laws is another.

But patent laws are global.
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Message 1856651 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 1856648.  

But patent laws are global.

I am under the impression that how long they last and what is patentible differs around the world.
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Message 1856653 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:35:27 UTC


Why? Apparently because of all leaching greedy lawyers in the US.

There are many more levels of leaching greedy people sticking their fingers into that same pie than just lawyers Janne. ;-)

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Message 1856659 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 20:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 1856658.  

I am under the impression

That's the problem with liberalism. You are easily impressed.

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Message 1856664 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 21:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1856658.  

I am under the impression

That's the problem with liberalism. You are easily impressed.

Guy that's a problem with ideologues they go off topic easily.
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Message 1856671 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 21:30:53 UTC - in response to Message 1856653.  
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Why? Apparently because of all leaching greedy lawyers in the US.

There are many more levels of leaching greedy people sticking their fingers into that same pie than just lawyers Janne. ;-)
Cheers.

I forgot.
Not only in the US.
Hehe:)
Here is a pic of my lawyer.
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Message 1856701 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 1:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 1856699.  

#2 - And most importantly. Never give any power to those with a Fanatical Religious Belief. Or a Fanatical Belief in a Secular 'Religion'. AKA: Ideology.

Sunday school.
What was it that Adam ate that he wasn’t supposed to eat? . . . it was the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
The subtle message? “Get smart and I’ll f**k you over–sayeth the Lord.”
God is the Smartest–and he doesn’t want any competition.
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Message 1856734 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 3:12:47 UTC - in response to Message 1856607.  

Because overall, government is pretty corrupt and broken. Most politicians have forgotten who they are supposed to work for.

What? WOW! You're admitting this? Finally... what brought on this epiphany? What ever turned on this light .... welcome back to reality.

Putting a mentally unstable, physically weak, known felon with uncontrolled anger issues in the white house would not have helped. Keeping her out of the white house was the first step to a long, arduous healing process for our nation. Liberals have been damaging our government and harming the citizens of this country for many years. Trump is just beginning to drain the swamp and remind our federal workers who their real boss is.


And bush didn't cause the GFC how blind are you oh right your not blind but just old and suffering Alzheimer's and that's why you conveniently forgot what the Republicans did in there 8 years oh and the 90's didn't happen as you where in a recession then right . You just keep hitting your head against that brick wall one day your head may break through it umm 2nd thoughts I think your head will cave in first .
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Message 1856736 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 3:22:36 UTC - in response to Message 1855209.  

My health plan is just to outlive you rumps.


Having second thoughts Mark about who you voted for !!!!! Getting old really brings home how important health care is mate

No second thoughts here.
I voted for the best person to run for the office.
And I shall 'suffer' the consequences of that decision with grace and dignity, even it if proves to have been the wrong choice.
We have the best of all choices at the helm now.
I am certain that the other alternative would have been a disaster.
Now, we at least have a manageble, controlled fall.
Clinton would have crashed the world, given her choice.
Trump at the very least, seems to be willing to try to work things out with the other world powers without brining the whole house down at our ankles.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1856738 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 3:24:08 UTC - in response to Message 1856699.  
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#2 - And most importantly. Never give any power to those with a Fanatical Religious Belief.
All religion is fanatical.

So your statement applies to all believers in the God of Abraham and many others as well. Glad to see you finally have found the light.

Has to do with the ability to assign moral superiority and inferiority to some abstract thing and then project that moral superiority and inferiority onto humans.

Or "good" and "evil" depend upon your perspective. More properly called "desirable" or "undesirable" outcome, making the perspective more obvious.

Example: The lion catches you and has you for lunch. From your perspective that is bad and undesirable. From the lion's perspective it is good and desirable. There is no absolute standard that some fictitious god has promulgated.
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Message 1856744 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 3:48:50 UTC - in response to Message 1856736.  

Trump at the very least, seems to be willing to try to work things out with the other world powers without brining the whole house down at our ankles.


Good one mark Trump working things out mmm

So not shaking Angela Merkel's hand at the white house is how you do that and telling Germany it owes heaps for NATO witch your country set up after ww2 is not making friends or working things out but peeing people off in that country and insulting her .

There is all ways payback Trumpy when your mean nasty and evil
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Message 1856745 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 3:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1856738.  

All religion is fanatical.


Atheism is sort of a religious faith in and of itself. I consider myself as agnostic because it's not complete belief or disbelief. I don't see how anyone can be sure of anything.

As for healthcare, I pay a premium on my own because I care for my mother at home and do not have employer assistance, but my income is too high to qualify for Medicaid. The main thing I'm worried about is how mergers of big healthcare companies will affect my coverage. The U.S. government recently struck down the proposed merger of Aetna and Humana due to fear of a monopoly, and I'm not sure if that's going to be good or bad for individuals like me.
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1856749 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 4:01:50 UTC - in response to Message 1856747.  

Atheism is no belief in any fairy tale creature.


That in itself is a belief/faith.
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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