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Message 1857411 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 12:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 1857410.  

LOL.

Those 2 golden rules :-)

If wu's guaranteed 24/7 & if project can cope 24/7 with the many dedicated crunchers 24/7 - then yes I would like answers.

Until those golden rules disappear :-)
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Message 1857412 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 12:34:40 UTC - in response to Message 1857411.  

LOL.

Those 2 golden rules :-)

If wu's guaranteed 24/7 & if project can cope 24/7 with the many dedicated crunchers 24/7 - then yes I would like answers.

Until those golden rules disappear :-)



And there's more chance of that happening than the " mods dropping their left wing leanings " , bet this gets RED X'ed but it's the truth

Seti@home will NEVER have all the money they would like (same for time , equiptment and staff hours ) and it's a bit funny people who are moaning DON'T seam to have a " star "
only making a " observation" ;-)
Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)
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Message 1857413 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 12:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 1857402.  

I see you've been answering some of my comments, but yet have to see anyone answering this:
What is the main premise of the Seti project with regards to workunits?
Until better funding, better hardware, more staff, that premise negates all questions.
Cannot understand why that has failed to be understood.


. . For me it is because it was the one question you posed that I really did not understand. And I still cannot fathom your intent.

. . Do you mean what is the main purpose of Seti with respect of WU's? Or what is the policy about WUs and their processing?

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Message 1857414 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 12:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 1857409.  

we have to do with the seti@home limits of 100wu / CPU /GPU

perhaps a only one efficient rig who needs 400wu CPU /GPU /(the time of the outage) is too strong for that !

divide it into 4 differents and separate rigs who only needs 100Wu CPU/GPU /(the time of the outage) could be better to avoid run out of Wu

the Rac for the same user account will be the same ,
just separated in 4,
power consume should be the same,
perhaps need less money for example to buy four 400W psu / than only one 1600W psu ?
4 non high end user Mobo could be less expensive,
and then ,
on four rigs , you can avoid a big hardware outage and a big wu loss ?

the bigger could not be the better in this case ?


. . That sounds like a logistic nightmare to me :)

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Message 1857415 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 12:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 1857412.  

LOL.

Those 2 golden rules :-)

If wu's guaranteed 24/7 & if project can cope 24/7 with the many dedicated crunchers 24/7 - then yes I would like answers.

Until those golden rules disappear :-)



And there's more chance of that happening than the " mods dropping their left wing leanings " , bet this gets RED X'ed but it's the truth

Seti@home will NEVER have all the money they would like (same for time , equiptment and staff hours ) and it's a bit funny people who are moaning DON'T seam to have a " star "
only making a " observation" ;-)


. . Actually I think I can help you by recommending a good optometrist. There seem to be plenty of green stars spread throughout this message thread, amongst most parties regardless of the side they are on.

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Message 1857416 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 13:07:17 UTC - in response to Message 1857415.  
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. . Actually I think I can help you by recommending a good optometrist. There seem to be plenty of green stars spread throughout this message thread, amongst most parties regardless of the side they are on.

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20 / 20 thanks :-)
Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)
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Message 1857419 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 13:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1857412.  
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And there's more chance of that happening than the " mods dropping their left wing leanings "


More for the benefit/information of others, as I've already indicated (OK, well... I tried!) but a lot of that may be due to the forum policies that we are required to enforce. We may or may not agree with them all, but there they are, and they are there for good intentions of keeping this a respectful and pleasant place.

And I'll refrain from any further comment as we don't want to stray into politics or discussion of moderator actions, do we? :^)
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Message 1857421 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 13:17:01 UTC - in response to Message 1857414.  
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. . That sounds like a logistic nightmare to me :)

There is an easy way to do that, without the need to separate the host.

Just run several instances of boinc on the host, each instance still have it´s 100 WU GPU/CPU limit of course but if you run 3 instances for example the number of total WU will be 3x. Just remember nothing forces you to run only 3... you just need to know how to manage the work flow. If you have one of the seti top hosts who is realy afected by the 100 WU limit, sure you are an advanced user, it´s easy to do that for you.

That will fix the WU shortage problem during most of the outages, even those who take an entire day.

For those who not remember the 100WU limit was put in place to protect the data base so it´s very unlikely somebody will change that. And sure makes no sense to rise the limit just for few hungry super crunchers hosts.

or.......

Do like many others, choose a backup project and continue to crunch and to be happy during the seti outages.

My 2 cents.
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Message 1857431 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 14:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1857428.  
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What is noticeable as well is that often the most vociferous are the ones with a minimal RAC. There is an old adage that empty vessels make the most noise.

Charles Long rarely posted but got on with crunching, just who was it that was the most vociferous in that case?

I can recall a very vociferous person screaming b*****y blue murder about restricting such people from crunching.

Was that because Mr Long blew them out of the water by any chance?

What was his tally? Wasn't it a billion cobblestones achieved in such a short time compared to many spending years accumulating theirs?
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Message 1857463 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 17:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 1857457.  

Go one 4 watt Android tablet only, and all problems suddenly disappears.
It's so calm and wonderful. I have all the WU's I need.
LOL


Comes the Revolution, Comrade, and you will get 5 watts!
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Message 1857479 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 19:38:27 UTC

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?
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Message 1857489 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 20:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 1857479.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?


Roughly 6-7 hours on my machines that run 1080s (and 980s) at 3 WUs/Gpu
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Message 1857496 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:04:33 UTC - in response to Message 1857457.  

Go one 4 watt Android tablet only, and all problems suddenly disappears.
It's so calm and wonderful. I have all the WU's I need.
LOL


. . And life is bliss right? :)

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Message 1857505 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 1857489.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?


Roughly 6-7 hours on my machines that run 1080s (and 980s) at 3 WUs/Gpu

Around 7 hours (less than 5, over 9 depending on the work mix) for my GTX 1070s running 1WU at a time.
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Message 1857519 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 1857505.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?


Roughly 6-7 hours on my machines that run 1080s (and 980s) at 3 WUs/Gpu

Around 7 hours (less than 5, over 9 depending on the work mix) for my GTX 1070s running 1WU at a time.

9-10hrs with my 1060's 1w/u at a time.

Cheers.
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Message 1857527 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:44:36 UTC - in response to Message 1857519.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?


Roughly 6-7 hours on my machines that run 1080s (and 980s) at 3 WUs/Gpu

Around 7 hours (less than 5, over 9 depending on the work mix) for my GTX 1070s running 1WU at a time.

9-10hrs with my 1060's 1w/u at a time.

Cheers.

About 8 hours on my 1070/960 machine doing 2 at a time.

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Message 1857560 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 0:35:20 UTC - in response to Message 1857527.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?


Roughly 6-7 hours on my machines that run 1080s (and 980s) at 3 WUs/Gpu

Around 7 hours (less than 5, over 9 depending on the work mix) for my GTX 1070s running 1WU at a time.

9-10hrs with my 1060's 1w/u at a time.

Cheers.

About 8 hours on my 1070/960 machine doing 2 at a time.


. . Approx 8 hours on my rig with the 1050ti (min 5 hours max about 10, if 100% guppis maybe 12)
. . On the machine with 2 x 1060-6GBs about 7 hours with mixed workload (I don't have specific numbers for that rig)

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Message 1857562 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 0:39:09 UTC - in response to Message 1857479.  

How many hours does it take for a GTX 1080 to go trough the 100WU limit?

About 7-8 hours on my 1070/1070 machines doing 2 at a time.
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Message 1857589 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 14:53:00 UTC

Back after an 11 hour nap, What did I miss?
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Message 1857643 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 17:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 1857589.  

You missed all of the fights and (intoxicated) slurs over on the BOINC forums. Well, or not, of course. :)
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