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Message 1891192 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 18:18:25 UTC

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/los-angeles-probation-officer-pleads-guilty-to-assaulting-juvenile-female-inmates-on-a-weekly-basis/
Los Angeles probation officer pleads guilty to assaulting juvenile female inmates ‘on a weekly basis’

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Message 1891194 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 18:21:42 UTC - in response to Message 1891192.  

A probation Officer on probation. funny if not so serious.

So why no jail time?
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Message 1891204 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 19:19:35 UTC

I Owe My Life to Lethal Force. 'Cept this L. F. was a Citizen Murdering My PoliceMan Grand Uncle, in '35. 'Causing My Grand Father to Bring dA Family North to Attend to Matters. dA Brothers Lived 'bout 1500 miles apart.

They Stayed. My GrandFather's Son aka as Dad, then Later in Life, Met Mom, Got Married and Begetted Me. And a Couple Others.

So, Me No Born ifN a Copper was Not Killed by a 'Citizen' using 'Lethal Force'. Hmmmm. Never thought 'bout dAt till Now.

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Message 1891221 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 21:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 1891194.  

A probation Officer on probation. funny if not so serious.

So why no jail time?
Cops can do no wrong. Frankly why didn't they charge him with statutory rape for the 14 year old? He should be on the sex perverts list.
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Message 1891223 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 21:18:49 UTC - in response to Message 1891222.  

A probation Officer on probation. funny if not so serious.

So why no jail time?

Why she is serving no time for her continuous sexual assault against female inmates. Is a very good question.
So it's okay for you to pose that question & avoid the more serious one Gary raised?

Never mind, cops do no wrong right?
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Message 1891228 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 22:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1891224.  

So because she served no time for assault, the cop was allowed to get away with statuary rape of a 14 year old. Aren't cops supposed to prevent such crimes?
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Message 1891230 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 22:26:52 UTC - in response to Message 1891151.  

Rules set in the 1800's are still the rule today. The pitchforks are starting to come out.


It is ironic that one of the best and influential (although unfortunately not influential enough everywhere) police departments was founded in the early 1800s. I recently stumbled across Sir Robert Peel's Nine Principles of Policing, all of 187 years old, and still as fresh and relevant as the day they were written. Perhaps they are even too relevant, in fact, as so many of the problems that we see with modern policing, including many that have been discussed in this thread, seem to be caused by ignoring them. Are they even taught in police academies any more?

(For those who haven't head of him, Sir Robert Peel was the founder of the London Metropolitan Police, considered to be the first modern police force and one of the oldest in terms of continuity from its founding. London police are informally called "bobbies" in his honor... or sometimes "peelers" by those who find themselves on the wrong side of the law.)

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Sir Robert Peel's Nine Principles of Policing (1829)


  1. The basic mission for which police exist is to prevent crime and disorder as an alternative to the repression of crime and disorder by military force and severity of legal punishment.

  2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon public approval of police existence, actions, behavior and the ability of the police to secure and maintain public respect.

  3. The police must secure the willing cooperation of the public in voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain public respect.

  4. The degree of cooperation of the public that can be secured diminishes, proportionately, the necessity for the use of physical force and compulsion in achieving police objectives.

  5. The police seek and preserve public favor, not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to the law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws; by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the society without regard to their race or social standing; by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humor; and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.

  6. The police should use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to achieve police objectives; and police should use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.

  7. The police at all times should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police; the police are the only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interest of the community welfare.

  8. The police should always direct their actions toward their functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary by avenging individuals or the state, or authoritatively judging guilt or punishing the guilty.

  9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.


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Message 1891234 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 22:49:25 UTC - in response to Message 1891232.  
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In American Culture. If you live in, or police some neighborhoods. You are continuously hearing gunshots. Resulting in multiple people shot or killed, especially over the weekend. This Is in addition to people stabbed and bludgeoned.

Nothing to do with the efficiency of the police.


Strangely, when I first read the list, #4 "The degree of cooperation of the public that can be secured diminishes, proportionately, the necessity for the use of physical force and compulsion in achieving police objectives." stood out.

Even with all our modern technology including genetic identification and other forensics, the U.S. homicide clearance rate is 64.1%, but half a century ago it was 90%. Unfortunately from decades of systemic abuse, the communities with the highest murder rate just don't trust the police anymore and won't co-operate and help them solve crimes. There are of course other factors, but this is a major one. "Snitches get stitches" etc.

So, the police militarize to deal with the violent inner cities, which increases police-to-citizen violence and brutality, which makes citizens even less co-operative, which leads to more unsolved murders, which leads to more militarization ad nauseum.
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Message 1891235 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 22:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 1891230.  

Seriously, if we followed those rules how would we control the abhorent, incarcerate the guilty, and utilize state-sponsored murder to satiate our need barbaric need for blood justice? You really didn't think that one through, did you?
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Message 1891237 - Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 23:01:58 UTC - in response to Message 1891236.  
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The communities with the highest crime and murder rates are terrified of the Drug Dealers and Murderer's in their midst.

The continuous anti police rhetoric in the media, from hate groups and academia. And the refusal to understand or acknowledge the real problem. Is just enabling a continuation of this assault against the innocent victims by these criminals.


We are at a twenty-year low in the violent crime rate in the U.S. There were drug dealers and murderers fifty years ago too, and very almost as many of them:



Yet the police were solving fifty percent more murders than they do now.

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Message 1891298 - Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 1891230.  

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Message 1891371 - Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:36:41 UTC - in response to Message 1891194.  

A probation Officer on probation. funny if not so serious.

So why no jail time?

Found a second account with a different result.
http://ktla.com/2017/09/20/l-a-county-probation-officer-accused-of-sex-abuse-pleads-guilty-to-assaulting-girls-in-juvenile-hall/
Oscar Calderon Jr., 33, was immediately sentenced to a year in jail after pleading guilty in a downtown courtroom to two counts of assault under color of authority, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office.

This sounds correct. Have no idea where Rawstory came up with it's fake news. They link to a story in the LA Times that says jail. -- KTLA and LA Time both owned by Tribune Media.

Prosecutors accused the deputy probation officer of making sexual overtures and inappropriately touching four teens inside Camp Scudder in Santa Clarita. Calderon was arrested in January and charged with four counts of assault under color of authority and two counts of lewd and lascivious acts with a child. Prosecutors said that the victims ranged in age from 15 to 18 and that the abuse began in 2014.
But why did they let him off without the "lewd and lascivious acts with a child" which would make him a sex offender?
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Message 1891425 - Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 22:26:00 UTC - in response to Message 1891371.  
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But why did they let him off without the "lewd and lascivious acts with a child" which would make him a sex offender?


It was part of the 'plea deal'.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-probation-officer-sexual-assault-20170920-story.html
Calderon’s attorney, Rodrigo Ambrosio, said he was satisfied with the terms of the plea deal. Calderon will not have to register as a sex offender because he did not plead to the charges accusing him of lewd acts with children, Ambrosio said.

“Mr. Calderon is looking forward to putting this behind him and moving on with his life,” Ambrosio said.

A spokesman for the district attorney’s office declined to comment on the fact that Calderon avoided having to register as a sex offender.


Another thing... Why is this in the 'cop' thread?

'Probation officers' are not 'police'.

This scumwad didn't have to plead to the 'lewd acts with children' charges because they work for the county government... just like the prosecutors.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1891448 - Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 0:29:01 UTC - in response to Message 1891425.  

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Message 1891518 - Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 11:44:04 UTC - in response to Message 1891448.  

'Probation officers' are not 'police'.

In California they are. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?chapter=4.5.&part=2.&lawCode=PEN&title=3.


Dang.... You all's list is longer than ours here in Texas.... But still, a peace officer is not exactly the same as police officer... exactly... but whatever...

My main point was that this sleezebag did not get put on the pervert list because of the plea deal. Just to get a conviction and clear the case, the prosecutor was willing to accept guilty pleas on everything except the charges what would have put the scumbucket on the 'sex offender list'... *Those* charges were then dropped as part of the plea deal. A Judge agreed to it.

Perp gets 1 year in prison, 5 years probation (snicker -- *HIS* probation officer is just gonna LOVE him...). Thats it.

It might be interesting to get rid of 'plea deals' and force every case to go to a jury trial... but that would clog up the court system. A 'speedy trial' would then have to be defined as 'Soon!(tm) (sometime between now and the heat death of the universe)'.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1892033 - Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 19:38:03 UTC

https://mynewsla.com/crime/2017/09/27/deadly-dui-la-cop-arrested-fiery-605-crash-kills-mom-dad-teen-son/
A Los Angeles police officer was in custody Wednesday on suspicion of DUI for allegedly speeding in his Camaro on the San Gabriel River (605) Freeway in Santa Fe Springs and causing a fiery crash that killed a Riverside mom and dad and their teenage son.

Authorities said 26-year-old Edgar Verduzco of Santa Ana was speeding in his 2016 Chevrolet Camaro in the freeway’s carpool lane around 10:15 p.m. Tuesday just north of Washington Boulevard when his sports car struck a 2014 Nissan and a 2010 Scion from behind.

The impact of the crash caused the Nissan to burst into flames, trapping the three occupants, who died at the scene. They were a mother, a father, and their teenage son, all from Riverside, according to the California Highway Patrol. Their names were withheld, pending notification of their next of kin.

The driver of the Scion, 31-year-old Berly Alvarado of Wilmington, was taken to a hospital after complaining of pain, the CHP said.

Verduzco, who suffered “major” injuries was arrested and booked on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs causing bodily injury, the California Highway Patrol reported. He was held on $100,000 bail, the sheriff’s department reported.
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Message 1892108 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017, 4:41:19 UTC

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article175759511.html
The Placer County District Attorney’s Office filed felony charges Wednesday against a Rocklin Police Department officer accused of using excessive force on a DUI suspect by beating him with his baton.

Brad Alford, 41, a patrol officer who has worked for the department for 15 years, was arrested Tuesday in connection with an incident that occurred in the parking lot of a Rocklin apartment complex at 6 a.m. Sunday. He has been charged with filing a false police report, assault with the use of a deadly weapon and assault by a police officer, both with an enhancement of causing great bodily injury.
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Two days later, after other officers came forward with concerns about the alleged beating, Alford also was arrested and booked into Placer County jail.
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Message 1894562 - Posted: 11 Oct 2017, 3:48:46 UTC - in response to Message 1887254.  

‘This is crazy,’ sobs Utah hospital nurse as cop roughs her up, arrests her for doing her job

Another cop not knowing the law and loosing it.

Utah police officer Jeff Payne, who dragged screaming nurse Alex Wubbels, is fired and his supervisor, Lieutenant James Tracy, was demoted to officer.

Detective Jeff Payne was also fired from his part-time job as a paramedic in September.

Now I hope that the nurse sues him for all he has because he deserves it.

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Message 1897699 - Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 5:02:31 UTC

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officer-allegedly-burglarized-home-stole-medication-authorities/story?id=50718877&cid=clicksource_4380645_6_heads_posts_headlines_hed
A Florida sheriff's deputy resigned after he was accused of stealing a dying man's medication when he allegedly entered his home, which was hit by power outage during Hurricane Irma, illegally.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office confirmed that Deputy Jason Cooke officially left the department on Wednesday, according to a statement.

Cooke had been captured on surveillance cameras inside a home in Boynton Beach after the system sent an alert to the homeowner's children.
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Message 1897762 - Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 17:26:09 UTC

Man shot by Chicago police officer is awarded $44.7 million

A federal jury awarded a Chicago man a record-breaking $44.7 million Thursday after finding that a Chicago police officer shot him in the head after a night of heavy drinking and that the troubled Police Department enabled the off-duty patrolman's violent behavior.

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Though they needed some time to reach a unanimous decision on how much to award in damages, jurors said it took them less than 20 minutes to determine Officer Patrick Kelly fired a bullet into his best friend Michael LaPorta's skull in January 2010 and then misled investigators by insisting LaPorta tried to kill himself.

LaPorta, who lives in the city's Morgan Park neighborhood, survived the shooting but still suffers from a host of medical conditions. Now 37, he can no longer walk or read and depends on his aging parents for around-the-clock care.

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Because the jury found that the Police Department has a widespread problem with disciplining officers and failed to maintain an early-warning system, the city of Chicago is responsible for the $44.7 million award and LaPorta's legal fees, which likely also will be millions of dollars.

The verdict is a record award for a misconduct lawsuit against the Chicago Police Department, according to records reviewed by the Chicago Tribune and sources with knowledge of where the verdict would rank in comparison with past cases.

The previous record was $25 million, which a jury awarded to Thaddeus Jimenez in a wrongful conviction case in 2012.

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Kelly, 36, has been found mentally unfit for duty twice, arrested two times, accused of beating a girlfriend and has been treated for alcohol addiction. He has been sued six times and has been the subject of more than two dozen investigations into his on- and off-duty conduct, including one in which he was found to have assaulted a female sergeant.

Prosecutors opted not to charge Kelly with wrongdoing in connection with the shooting after it happened. Police, however, reopened their investigation into the shooting last year.

Kelly and LaPorta were the only people inside the patrolman's South Side home on Jan. 12, 2010, when LaPorta was shot toward the back of his head with Kelly's service weapon. Chicago police classified the shooting as an attempted suicide based largely on an account from Kelly.

LaPorta couldn't speak for months after the shooting, but his family pushed back against the suicide classification and accused Kelly of covering up the truth. Kelly told investigators that LaPorta held the gun with his left hand, but the ambidextrous LaPorta was a lifelong hunter who always shot with his right. No fingerprints were on the gun, which investigators found on the floor next to LaPorta.

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