And firing a Nuclear Weapon Capable Missile over the Japanese People. Would be considered what?

And if Putin, the USA, the UK from its Submarines, et al. Fired a Nuclear Weapon Capable Missile over a County they had threatened?

Kim must be understood in that light.

A nation's airspace is usually considered to end at about 30km altitude, otherwise countries could claim an adversary's spy satellite that passes over their nation in space was an act of war. An ICBM will reach 2,000km altitude. I'm not up on the stats of the test that went over Japan but it was probably higher than 30km because it was determined to have intercontinental range if the trajectory had been flatter.

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Trump tweeted this today "The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea."
Can the US afford to stop trading with for instance all these countries?

North Korea’s Top Trading Partners
Below is a list of North Korea’s top 15 trading partners that imported the most North Korean shipments by dollar value during 2016. Also shown is each import country’s percentage share of total exports from North Korea.
China: US$2.6 billion (90% of total North Korean exports)
India: $87.4 million (3.1%)
Philippines: $51.8 million (1.8%)
Taiwan: $12.2 million (0.4%)
France: $11.4 million (0.4%)
Mozambique: $10.9 million (0.4%)
Russia: $8.8 million (0.3%)
Brazil: $8.7 million (0.3%)
Burkina Faso: $7.4 million (0.3%)
Mexico: $6.7 million (0.2%)
Germany: $6.5 million (0.2%)
Turkey: $6.3 million (0.2%)
Saudi Arabia: $6.1 million (0.2%)
Egypt: $4.8 million (0.2%)
Chile: $4.4 million (0.2%)

Turn that around Jan, how long can those countries do without US customers.....?

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And firing a Nuclear Weapon Capable Missile over the Japanese People. Would be considered what?

And if Putin, the USA, the UK from its Submarines, et al. Fired a Nuclear Weapon Capable Missile over a County they had threatened?

Kim must be understood in that light.

A nation's airspace is usually considered to end at about 30km altitude, otherwise countries could claim an adversary's spy satellite that passes over their nation in space was an act of war. An ICBM will reach 2,000km altitude. I'm not up on the stats of the test that went over Japan but it was probably higher than 30km because it was determined to have intercontinental range if the trajectory had been flatter.

Mr. Kevvy, there is no reasoning with a warmonger. All you need do is look at a map. What direction can Kim fire a test missile and have it land in water? He either aims east or south. If he aims east it goes over Japan. If he aims South it goes over ROK. If he aims north it lands on Russia. It he aims west it lands in China. Warmongers are so ignorant of basic facts you would think they are Republican echo chambers or something like that.

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I wonder how those warmongers would react if China, Russia and their allies were to hold war games in international waters just off both U.S. coasts.

Cheers.

I wonder how those warmongers would react if China, Russia and their allies were to hold war games in international waters just off both U.S. coasts.

Cheers.

They do, but usually only one coast at a time.

Trump tweeted this today "The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea."
Can the US afford to stop trading with for instance all these countries?

North Korea’s Top Trading Partners
Below is a list of North Korea’s top 15 trading partners that imported the most North Korean shipments by dollar value during 2016. Also shown is each import country’s percentage share of total exports from North Korea.
China: US$2.6 billion (90% of total North Korean exports)
India: $87.4 million (3.1%)
Philippines: $51.8 million (1.8%)
Taiwan: $12.2 million (0.4%)
France: $11.4 million (0.4%)
Mozambique: $10.9 million (0.4%)
Russia: $8.8 million (0.3%)
Brazil: $8.7 million (0.3%)
Burkina Faso: $7.4 million (0.3%)
Mexico: $6.7 million (0.2%)
Germany: $6.5 million (0.2%)
Turkey: $6.3 million (0.2%)
Saudi Arabia: $6.1 million (0.2%)
Egypt: $4.8 million (0.2%)
Chile: $4.4 million (0.2%)

Turn that around Jan, how long can those countries do without US customers.....?

Not long of course.

The device that shook the mountains over the Punggye-ri test site on Sunday represented a quantum leap for North Korea’s nuclear capability, producing an explosion at least five times greater than the country’s previous tests and easily powerful enough to devastate a large city.
And if studies confirm that the bomb was a thermonuclear weapon — as North Korea claims — it would be a triumph of a different scale: a major technical milestone reached well ahead of predictions, putting the world’s most destructive force in the hands of the country’s 33-year-old autocrat.

It was most likely a boosted fission weapon with a yield of 120 kton and not a thermonuclear weapon according to most experts.
Calling it a quantum leap in capability is perhaps to much.
But it's very capable enough!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china/chinas-anger-at-west-to-overshadow-tougher-action-on-north-korea-idUSKCN1BE0MB

BEIJING (Reuters) - North Korea’s latest nuclear test is likely to pile more pressure on China to take tough action against its neighbor, but Beijing already doubts economic sanctions will work and says it is not its sole responsibility to rein in Pyongyang.

China has lambasted the West and its allies over recent weeks for promoting the “China responsibility theory” for North Korea, and been upset by Seoul and Washington’s own military drills that Beijing says have done nothing to cool tensions.

“The United States has to play its own role and should not be blindly putting pressure on China to try and squeeze North Korea,” said Ruan Zongze, a former Chinese diplomat now with the China Institute of International Studies, a think-tank affiliated with the Foreign Ministry.

While the seriousness of Sunday’s nuclear test means China will likely support tough new action, including possibly cutting off oil supplies, China will make clear others need to step up too, Ruan added.

Over the past week, China’s foreign ministry has repeatedly hit back at calls from Western countries and Japan for China for to do more to rein in North Korea, saying that pushing for dialogue was an equally integral part of the U.N. resolutions, and that escalating sanctions alone had been evidently ineffective.

Wondering if the Chinese Leadership wishes for another Country to do something. Thereby absolving China of any responsibility is something goes awry.

That would follow their millennia philosophy of the 'long view'.

But I'm beginning to wonder if much of Chinese recalcitrance to act is more out of fear of a madman turning on them than support of a dancing puppet. They know they have lost control of NoKo and now fear the pet dog 'biting the hand...............'

Mattis' comments yesterday of annihilation of NoKo should be taken very seriously by everyone involved.

Mattis doesn't bluff.

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US seeks tough UN approach

Broke policeman asks toothless tiger to get tough :-)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china/chinas-anger-at-west-to-overshadow-tougher-action-on-north-korea-idUSKCN1BE0MB

BEIJING (Reuters) - North Korea’s latest nuclear test is likely to pile more pressure on China to take tough action against its neighbor, but Beijing already doubts economic sanctions will work and says it is not its sole responsibility to rein in Pyongyang.

China has lambasted the West and its allies over recent weeks for promoting the “China responsibility theory” for North Korea, and been upset by Seoul and Washington’s own military drills that Beijing says have done nothing to cool tensions.

“The United States has to play its own role and should not be blindly putting pressure on China to try and squeeze North Korea,” said Ruan Zongze, a former Chinese diplomat now with the China Institute of International Studies, a think-tank affiliated with the Foreign Ministry.

While the seriousness of Sunday’s nuclear test means China will likely support tough new action, including possibly cutting off oil supplies, China will make clear others need to step up too, Ruan added.

Over the past week, China’s foreign ministry has repeatedly hit back at calls from Western countries and Japan for China for to do more to rein in North Korea, saying that pushing for dialogue was an equally integral part of the U.N. resolutions, and that escalating sanctions alone had been evidently ineffective.

Meanwhile, the Times of India suggests Kim jung Un's saber-rattling and testing is to put pressure on China to act as a go-between in order to open up direct negotiations with the US.

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Meanwhile, the Times of India suggests Kim jung Un's saber-rattling and testing is to put pressure on China to act as a go-between in order to open up direct negotiations with the US.

Switzerland has volunteered.

BERNE (Reuters) - Neutral Switzerland is prepared to act as a mediator to help resolve the North Korea crisis, including by hosting ministerial talks, Swiss President Doris Leuthard said on Monday.

Leuthard said Swiss troops were deployed on the demarcation zone between South Korea and North Korea and noted that her country - along with Sweden - had a long history of neutral and discreet diplomacy. This has included Switzerland representing U.S. interests in both Iran and Cuba.

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Have grave doubts if Kim will really relinquish his Nuclear Weapons. Nor really relinquish his ability to build/acquire them in the future.

I think most agree the world is not dealing with a rational being or regime.........you are absolutely correct.

A boy who thinks and has been told repeatedly he is a God will not go quietly into retirement.
This will not end well.

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Have grave doubts if Kim will really relinquish his Nuclear Weapons. Nor really relinquish his ability to build/acquire them in the future.

I think most agree the world is not dealing with a rational being or regime.........you are absolutely correct.

A boy who thinks and has been told repeatedly he is a God will not go quietly into retirement.
This will not end well.

We have had over 64 YEARS of 'diplomacy' over DPRK. Why keep trying?



The longer we wait to actually END the Korean War (that Kim's grandfather STARTED), the harder and bloodier it will be.

Enough 'speaking softly'. Time to use the 'big stick'.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Have grave doubts if Kim will really relinquish his Nuclear Weapons. Nor really relinquish his ability to build/acquire them in the future.

I think most agree the world is not dealing with a rational being or regime.........you are absolutely correct.

A boy who thinks and has been told repeatedly he is a God will not go quietly into retirement.
This will not end well.

We have had over 64 YEARS of 'diplomacy' over DPRK. Why keep trying?



The longer we wait to actually END the Korean War (that Kim's grandfather STARTED), the harder and bloodier it will be.

Enough 'speaking softly'. Time to use the 'big stick'.

It is called a pen and it signs a name to a peace treaty.

We have had over 64 YEARS of 'diplomacy' over DPRK. Why keep trying?

Because it hasn't blown up yet. Anyone with a better idea?

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It is called a pen and it signs a name to a peace treaty.

So easy to say.

What would you do to get signatures on a treaty that the last 64 years of diplomacy have not?

What do you know that the rest of the world does not?

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Diplomacy hasn't worked because Russia and China would rather have a buffer between the decadent corrupt western nations and their own borders. You only need to look at the situation on Russia's European border to see some of that.
Only when they see the dangers associated with the present day situation in North Korea as something that threatens them will they bring there pressure to bear.

It is called a pen and it signs a name to a peace treaty.

"Peace in our time" didn't work with another.

Trusting that Kim will keep his word, is very interesting.

Kim will have no reason to not keep his word, unless you can't see the only possible solution. Korea is for Koreans, not Americans or Chinese or Russians.

I realize the vast majority of tRumpists have a overwhelming need to subjugate others, just look at the idiot statues they worship of subjugaters, but such feelings must vanish for an adult world. You do want an adult world where nukes are universally seen as too horrible to contemplate their use, don't you? Or are you a kindergarten temper tantrum thrower who profits off killing? (Even if the profit is only unspendable political, er fishhook, points.)

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It is called a pen and it signs a name to a peace treaty.

"Peace in our time" didn't work with another.

Trusting that Kim will keep his word, is very interesting.

Kim will have no reason to not keep his word, unless you can't see the only possible solution. Korea is for Koreans, not Americans or Chinese or Russians.

I realize the vast majority of tRumpists have a overwhelming need to subjugate others, just look at the idiot statues they worship of subjugaters, but such feelings must vanish for an adult world. You do want an adult world where nukes are universally seen as too horrible to contemplate their use, don't you? Or are you a kindergarten temper tantrum thrower who profits off killing? (Even if the profit is only unspendable political, er fishhook, points.)

Great picture of what is wrong, kinda. Har!

If the world would reassure NK/Kim not to worry about being taken over or losing anything and they live as they do but play friendly with the rest of the world is easy to say. Well kinda... Har

I do not worship/pray to/for anything. Yes, I wish/hope for a nuke-less world.

It's another one of those North vs. South things but this time the North is the one that is into slavery of it's citizens.

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